Everyones a breeder now.

pegboy

pegboy

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Richard Drysift said:
This has been happening way before the dawn of instagram. Anyone can make their plants fuck; people do it all the time with backyard watermelons when they don’t have bees to do it for them. Nobody complains but weed snobs be like…home breeders are tainting the gene pool with too many polyhybrids …woe be to future generations of cannabis. Hogwash! If you don’t want to buy seeds then don’t but God intended for cannabis plants and every other living thing on Earth for that matter to go forth and multiply. Leave a single boy plant to shoot pollen all over the girls in your bloom tent if you don’t believe me.
As a master breeder in my own mind my crosses are better to me than most of the crap seed I bought over the years but then again im not selling them. My friends that grow don’t even want them; they think unless you spent money on them they can’t be that good. This is what the consumer mentality has wrought: you must spend a lot of money to aquire the worlds best genetics. Not true; there are so many good strains available today it is ridiculous. Too many growers think autos are the best and I disagree; they are the best thing for seed banks because they love repeat customers.
Banks give out freebies every sale because the markup on seed is so high; they cost almost nothing to produce. Even selling them for a dollar each is like highway robbery but that’s ok; this is capitalism. Pay that dude on insta for his home made gear so he can continue living his dream of playing PS5 in mom’s basement all night & making videos instead of going to work. Don’t feel guilty for tainting the cannabis gene pool; now that breeder guy can order up a double whopper on doordash. You fed him for a day and contributed to the local economy instead of ordering seed from a faceless communist in another state. Or even better just buy a pack or regular seeds and cross them yourself. 2 cent rant ends here peace
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I have no problem with home breeding at all. Its the hundreds self proclaimed breeders peppering my instagram on a daily basis thats getting to me. I just hope someone somewhere is keeping some slightly more pure genetic lines alive for future generations to access. :p
 
Sweaty_Guy

Sweaty_Guy

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pegboy said:
I have no problem with home breeding at all. Its the hundreds self proclaimed breeders peppering my instagram on a daily basis thats getting to me. I just hope someone somewhere is keeping some slightly more pure genetic lines alive for future generations to access. :p
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Hopefully! It’s all the same bullshit, crazier name after crazier name lol
 
LewberDewber852

LewberDewber852

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pegboy said:
I have no problem with home breeding at all. Its the hundreds self proclaimed breeders peppering my instagram on a daily basis thats getting to me. I just hope someone somewhere is keeping some slightly more pure genetic lines alive for future generations to access. :p
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Definitely are some legit people preserving genetics. Wish I could remember the name of the speaker at a Cornell field days event that was speaking of their mission of preserving stable genetics. They also had fields of triploids
 
brogro

brogro

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40 different flavors of Tabasco sauce, same for triscuits, countless varieties of trendy beer that is only prized for it's outlandish name only to be one upped the following day by fat tire whale Winnie. I'll welcome one strain.
 
cannabiscrusader

cannabiscrusader

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pegboy said:
I have no problem with home breeding at all. Its the hundreds self proclaimed breeders peppering my instagram on a daily basis thats getting to me. I just hope someone somewhere is keeping some slightly more pure genetic lines alive for future generations to access. :p
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Plenty doing that right here on riu. @MIRedBuds is working on bag of oranges. I've seen several others, but names fail me atm
 
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mandocat

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Tolerance Break said:
I think heirlooms have a pretty significant place in the future of cannabis. It's bud light vs craft brew on a whole other level.
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Exactly! There is always a place for quality cannabis, trying to vet breeders and their products over the internet is difficult. Seems like Sour D and some other heirlooms are making a come back, and the proliferation of clones will let more people grow higher quality phenos. Unfortunately, it is spreading disease as well.
 
Tolerance Break

Tolerance Break

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mandocat said:
I hear you! I'll bet if we all could run a hundred phenos of one of our own chucks, we would find some legitimate fire!
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Finding fire is a very important, but small fraction of the puzzle.

Being able to breed consistent crosses requires stable genetics that pair well and breed consistently. Sounds simple, but the more polyhybrids take over the market, the portion of stable breeding lines falls dramatically. It takes years to make a line stable while stress testing for recessive traits like hermaphroditism and auto flowering traits, which is why so many new growers are facing issues with photos flowering while root bound and facing mid to late flower hermaphrodite traits.

I think the culture relies on sharing and people should consider freely exchanging their beans, with handshake agreements about potential breeding and sales with those genetics, if they want their genetics explored.

The worst facets of marijuana have come from prohibition and the necessity of the black market. The best has come from passion and a lifelong dedication to the plant.
 
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mandocat

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Tolerance Break said:
Finding fire is a very important, but small fraction of the puzzle.

Being able to breed consistent crosses requires stable genetics that pair well and breed consistently. Sounds simple, but the more polyhybrids take over the market, the portion of stable breeding lines falls dramatically. It takes years to make a line stable while stress testing for recessive traits like hermaphroditism and auto flowering traits, which is why so many new growers are facing issues with photos flowering while root bound and facing mid to late flower hermaphrodite traits.

I think the culture relies on sharing and people should consider freely exchanging their beans, with handshake agreements about potential breeding and sales with those genetics, if they want their genetics explored.

The worst facets of marijuana have come from prohibition and the necessity of the black market. The best has come from passion and a lifelong dedication to the plant.
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I agree! I think I have found a handful of breeders that do take time to test and stabilize their genetics and they generally go their own way when it comes to selecting genetics to explore. That's why I try to share their work with my friends! We may not be able to legitimately pheno hunt, but collectively, we can increase the number of quality plants that we can experience!
 
conor c

conor c

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pegboy said:
I have no problem with home breeding at all. Its the hundreds self proclaimed breeders peppering my instagram on a daily basis thats getting to me. I just hope someone somewhere is keeping some slightly more pure genetic lines alive for future generations to access. :p
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I get what you mean the way i see it is 98% of people just make chucks be it with a goal in mind or just cos they think it be cool then you got the two percent of folk that are breeders that actually do proper work to improve and refine the genepool it takes years of work thats why there few and far between then to make it worse the human ego factor plus hype and money all work in conjunction to promote crap over proper worked lines to most of the shall we say less educated cannabis enthusiasts isnta wont help there neither
 
Farmer's Hat

Farmer's Hat

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It is quite fun to see what monstrosities emerge when we chuck pollen at every strain we can get our hands on. As was mentioned earlier in the thread, it takes a lot of work to breed a stable strain. Half the battle is finding desired traits. Furthermore, how does the smoke hit you? How does it taste? Etc. It can be a long meticulous process.

As an example, In 2014 I selected only 4 plants to work with, out of thousands! They were Mtf, Sfv og, Jack herrer, and Blackberry. I crossed all 4 of these in every combination, and the only keeper was the Mtf x Sfv OG. Why was it a keeper?

Ive been working on this one strain (mtf x sfv og) for years! I cant even recall the amount of seeds ive gone through. Lol

In my earlier years of growing, I definitely made dozens of f1 hybrids. I think its an important part of learning.

Incidentally, Ive never sold a single seed. Ive only traded and gifted them. Intention is everything. The world doesn't need anymore grifters.

Ps. Enjoy the little slideshow. Back in the day when I was young...
 

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