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DIY-HP-LED

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When republicans get elected nothing gets done, except stupid laws to trigger the libs, but nothing that will actually help anybody, though they do talk a lot about local issues, since they are good at the con. Expect nothing but right wing trash and obstruction as the cold civil war is fought to a standstill.
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Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin vetoes 26 Democratic bills

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injinji

injinji

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DIY-HP-LED said:
When republicans get elected nothing gets done, except stupid laws to trigger the libs, but nothing that will actually help anybody, though they do talk a lot about local issues, since they are good at the con. Expect nothing but right wing trash and obstruction as the cold civil war is fought to a standstill.
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Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin vetoes 26 Democratic bills

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I agree with him on the tobacco bill.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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injinji said:
I agree with him on the tobacco bill.
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Dunno about local issues too much and try to stay out of American domestic politics, my main concern is the fight for liberal democracy and he belongs to a party that opposes it. I was referring to how the republicans operate strategically, they my be on the right side of some issues locally, or say they are to get elected, they will say and do anything for power. He will obstruct and not much more, if they had total power, it would be some anti election law or don't say gay etc.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
When republicans get elected nothing gets done, except stupid laws to trigger the libs, but nothing that will actually help anybody, though they do talk a lot about local issues, since they are good at the con. Expect nothing but right wing trash and obstruction as the cold civil war is fought to a standstill.
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Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin vetoes 26 Democratic bills

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he's a bag of dicks, but that very last item, which was vetoing a measure that would stop insurance companies from adding a surcharge to tobacco users policies is alright with me, as long as there isn't some glaring reason i'm missing. why should non smokers have to cover the cost of insuring smokers? seems fair to me
 
DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
he's a bag of dicks, but that very last item, which was vetoing a measure that would stop insurance companies from adding a surcharge to tobacco users policies is alright with me, as long as there isn't some glaring reason i'm missing. why should non smokers have to cover the cost of insuring smokers? seems fair to me
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Add the tax to cigarettes instead, next it will be fat people or some other group, how about the unvaxxed? It costs $20+ CDN for a pack of smokes here and the extra goes to healthcare. How about people who climb mountains, when they fall down, or perhaps a gun owner stupid enough to shoot himself. Perhaps gun owners should face premium increases too, since owning a gun increases risk in the household substantially.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Add the tax to cigarettes instead, next it will be fat people or some other group, how about the unvaxxed? It costs $20+ CDN for a pack of smokes here and the extra goes to healthcare. How about people who climb mountains, when they fall down, or perhaps a gun owner stupid enough to shoot himself. Perhaps gun owners should face premium increases too, since owning a gun increases risk in the household substantially.
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That is taxing a Constitutional right. No.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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cannabineer said:
That is taxing a Constitutional right. No.
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No it is not, it is constitutional to have sales tax on weapons and ammo, insurance premiums are private business, to an extent, they are not taxes imposed by a state. Churches can be taxed too, the only thing the constitution says is freedom of religion and no state religion, nothing about taxes.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
DIY-HP-LED said:
No it is not, it is constitutional to have sales tax on weapons and ammo, insurance premiums are private business, to an extent, they are not taxes imposed by a state. Churches can be taxed too, the only thing the constitution says is freedom of religion and no state religion, nothing about taxes.
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I would accept it with the nonnegotiable proviso that all civilians are fully subject to it. All police are civilians, their LARP pseudomilitary rank structure notwithstanding. In fact, their premiums should reflect how many people they shoot (at).
 
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DIY-HP-LED said:
Add the tax to cigarettes instead, next it will be fat people or some other group, how about the unvaxxed? It costs $20+ CDN for a pack of smokes here and the extra goes to healthcare. How about people who climb mountains, when they fall down, or perhaps a gun owner stupid enough to shoot himself. Perhaps gun owners should face premium increases too, since owning a gun increases risk in the household substantially.
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I'm all for taxing the heck out of food with empty calories + cigarettes. I dislike smokers' smoke.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Add the tax to cigarettes instead, next it will be fat people or some other group, how about the unvaxxed? It costs $20+ CDN for a pack of smokes here and the extra goes to healthcare. How about people who climb mountains, when they fall down, or perhaps a gun owner stupid enough to shoot himself. Perhaps gun owners should face premium increases too, since owning a gun increases risk in the household substantially.
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fat people have paid more for insurance for years, no next thing about it. a lot of states are talking about mandatory gun owner insurance, much like liability insurance on vehicles. you want to own something that can do a lot of damage? then you got to pay for it...
a higher tax on tobacco wouldn't bother me one bit, neither would a higher tax on alcohol. both of them cost the public over 230 Billion a year, just for health care costs, the total cost is closer to 800 Billion a year...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/367863/tobacco-alcohol-and-illicit-drugs-abuse-costs-in-the-us/
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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Kentucky.....where rapists have more rights than a rape victim....
Kentucky lawmakers override governor's vetos on abortion, transgender sports bills
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it's a fucking sad world when hillbillies are ashamed to say they're from kentucky, because of republicans making them look bad.
the republican party is shrinking, but the level of insanity is growing.
 
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