Fogdog
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no man, read my earlier posts just a few pages back. I'm not fooled. I'm not willing to concede defeat. That's your bag.
EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread
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Fogdog
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Wait a minute, I said the election wasn't run fairly.
Damn!
So what your saying is, 'we know she cheated, but you need a stiff upper lip..get over it'?
A dem Congress? They take money too..all of them! Nothing gets done with them as well, you can't just blame on GOP.
Obama had 2 years..what got done?
They don't work for us..they work for those who gave them campaign funds..why? Because they are all liars and 'the people' will not donate to the lying candidate.
I'm just saying that I don't concede defeat and see a way for things to get better. As long as Trump and the Republican Congress are defeated. The millennial left is a new factor. But they won't be if they disengage. I want to see if they can make a difference. Bernie has energized and motivated them.
You seem to have given up. So tell me, what is accomplished by giving up?
Then why are you supporting Clinton if you know the election wasn't run fairly?
Giving up on what? Where do I say I've given up?
ttystikk
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Conceding defeat would be acceptance of the situation. Show me where I've done, said or advocated that.
I'm saying that voting for someone who neither represents my interests nor cares about my constitutional rights is stupid and unsupportable on its face.
So we need to find alternatives in order to get our country back. That's not defeat, that's realism.
ttystikk
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Yeah! Challenge that hypocrisy!
ttystikk
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The very corruption our Founding Fathers warned us against.
ttystikk
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When our fucking Supreme Court sanctions the use of dollars in place of votes, I'd say what we have is tyranny.
When the same body sanctions the extra judicial theft of property without due process of law, that's tyranny.
When an election is rigged to a 99.9999999% certainty AND YET NOTHING IS DONE,
THAT'S FUCKING TYRANNY!
@Fogdog Do ya get it now? Stop trying to tell me to advocate for change within the system when the system itself is clearly actively involved in disenfranchising us!
WE LIVE UNDER A SYSTEM OF TYRANNY. That's not giving up; it's acknowledging the facts.
Unlike before, this has now come into the spotlight..we are venturing into territory we've not experienced before.
Millions are aware this is happening now and we're not letting it go, Tty.
Padawanbater2
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Good little conservative
I've heard the exact same thing argued by NLXSK1 and muyloco
ttystikk
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I'm shocked there aren't millions in the streets demanding justice over massive voter fraud.
If we don't, we'll deserve what we get.
Fogdog
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I can't figure out what positive action you are suggesting. The only thing I hear you talking about is to write in Bernie. Which would not bring Bernie into the WH. So a futile gesture. How are you not conceding defeat by enabling Trump and the GOP congress to rule?
I've done the best I can to describe some positive actions that I see going forward. OK, so you don't see it as enough. Tell me then what better can be done? What do you mean by "fight"? Can you explain without hyperbole please. Because I don't get it when you take lofty positions but don't explain what they mean.
Nobody is going on do anything about it. It's why we are here in the first place. If people really cared it would have never happened to begin with.
abandonconflict
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Not conceding the presidential to Clinton is the start.
We are here to say 'we know what you've done and we will retaliate'..this will no longer be swept under the rug.
Our millennials have the biggest sense of right and wrong of all age groups voting this cycle.
They will hold us to task.
Sanders isn't going anywhere, he's smart and he's not going to word vomit ala Trump, his plan.
'Fight' means we are standing with Sanders; no falling in line because of fear of who MIGHT become president.
We've drawn a line in the sand..it MUST stop somewhere.
We will wait to hear how Bernie wishes to move forward..that's his right and he deserves the respect of being allowed to make that decision.
By ourselves? Meh..but together? We are 10+MILLION STRONG!
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Fogdog
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So you still think that Sanders is going to be president?
Um..dope smokers?.. I'm gonna say it would've been outrageous for her to have tampered with that states electorate results.
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I believe that the facts still have plenty of time to present themselves, but it's not the American people who need convincing..it's the establishment.
Uncle Ben
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Nothing will happen for you as long as you rely on others to do what you should be doing for yourself.
Own it.......