Exhaust fans as a means of temperature control

I’m using an AC infinity 6” fan in a 4 x 4 tent which is a fairly high end fan with probe and controller etc and definitely an overclock for a 4 x 4 as I originally got it as a top end fan for a 5 x 5, I get the importance of an exhaust fan to control odor mainly but secondary as a means to control temperature but honestly in my limited experience I’ve found exhaust fans to be almost completely ineffective as a means of controlling temperature, especially when compared to what a cheap 4” inlet fan can do in comparison with just general room temperature air, let alone air conditioned air, why do I see exhaust as the primary source for temperature control everywhere, am I missing something?
 

Grow So High

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Maybe you don’t have it placed in an optimal position? I use the same exhaust, without it my temps would be 88. With the fan on max speed my tent stays at 80. The exhaust essentially takes as much heat from the light out of the tent as possible. If your room temperature is naturally high then you may notice less of a difference.
 

Hobbes

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BCF are you exhausting your hot air into the same room as your tent? Like out the side or top vent?

If you are then you're recycling the hot air back into the passive inlet port, making your tent all the hotter. You can't cool the tent if the inlet air is hot.

Once you get cool air going into the tent then you can turn your fan on and off, using a temperature switch, to maintain a temperature range inside your tent.

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The exhaust pumps the air out the window but the inlet just pulls from my living room which is generally reasonably cool, around 70. I guess the cooler air going in is far more important than the hot air being pulled out, hence my fascination with exhausts being the main tool for temperature control in most grow room information sources.

My exhaust fan is far more powerful, I bet if I reversed the fan positions it would be far more effective.
 

Renfro

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I’ve found exhaust fans to be almost completely ineffective as a means of controlling temperature,
All depends on the ambient temperature (intake temp), the amount of heat to be moved and the real world CFM of the exhaust system.

To actively cool a room I prefer an intake fan but thats on a larger scale and I am not concerned with positive pressure (odor control) as I run scrubbers in the rooms.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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I guess the cooler air going in is far more important than the hot air being pulled out, hence my fascination with exhausts being the main tool for temperature control in most grow room information sources.
This statement confuses the hell out of me. Of course the temperature of the air going in is important, but the air can't go in, without air exhausting out, so I'm really confused about how you equate that to meaning that the exhaust isn't as important as you thought. You can't cool the tent any more than the temperature of the air going into it. We keep the room as cool as we can so the tent, which is exhausting and pulling fresh air in, can remain as close to the room temperature as possible.
 

Clumpyoyster

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This statement confuses the hell out of me. Of course the temperature of the air going in is important, but the air can't go in, without air exhausting out, so I'm really confused about how you equate that to meaning that the exhaust isn't as important as you thought. You can't cool the tent any more than the temperature of the air going into it. We keep the room as cool as we can so the tent, which is exhausting and pulling fresh air in, can remain as close to the room temperature as possible.
I run a 5x5 flower tent 1200w and run a 4” intake fan and a 4” exhaust fan with carbon filter. I draw air off the cool floor and make it disperse low in the tent and exhaust I place pretty much right above my hps right now to extract hot air vented outside. With everything cranked I’m barely able to stay under 80 which is why a 6” upgrade is coming soon or I’m gonna run 2 four inch exhaust out
 

Mohamed.

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I’m using an AC infinity 6” fan in a 4 x 4 tent which is a fairly high end fan with probe and controller etc and definitely an overclock for a 4 x 4 as I originally got it as a top end fan for a 5 x 5, I get the importance of an exhaust fan to control odor mainly but secondary as a means to control temperature but honestly in my limited experience I’ve found exhaust fans to be almost completely ineffective as a means of controlling temperature, especially when compared to what a cheap 4” inlet fan can do in comparison with just general room temperature air, let alone air conditioned air, why do I see exhaust as the primary source for temperature control everywhere, am I missing something?
I don't know your experience with growing tents but for an exhaust fan to be effective in controlling temperature, several precautions should be adhered to, and you might know all of these but I'm just saying:
1- intake vent should be at a low point in the tent in order for the air column to span the whole tent.
2- intake vent size should ideally be 1.25 to 1.5 times the size of your exhaust fan inlet to insure you're maximizing the utilization of your exhaust fan.
3- In case you have an air filter on your intake, then the intake size should be enlarged to at least 2 times the size of your exhaust fan inlet and to further increase the intake size according to the air filter's resistance.
4- To make sure that there are no points above the plants that can act as an air intake because this will simply create an air stream inside the tent that have a reduced effect on hot air around the plants.

I think, and this is only my theory, the prevalence of exhaust fans compared to inlet fans is that this idea is borrowed from greenhouses. Greenhouses typically use exhaust fans and create negative pressure inside them and I think people just followed suit. Some green houses of course use inlet fans to create positive pressure inside and this has the added benefit of preventing dust and insects from entering. On the other hand, a lot of marijuana growers might want to control the odor at some point in the future, so installing a fan in an exhaust configuration would allow them to easily install a carbon filter afterwards but a lot of people just follow what's popular without giving it much thought.

Exhaust fans are also typically used in computer cooling. Over-clockers and people using powerful GPUs add one or more inlet fans along with the exhaust fan(s). Manipulating the power of the exhaust and inlet fans would allow them to create either negative pressure, positive pressure or a balanced one.

From what I know, installing a fan in the inlet configuration should be slightly (just slightly) more efficient than installing it in an exhaust configuration. The inlet configuration can also create better temperature gradient inside the cooled space. For best cooling effect, both an inlet fan and an exhaust fan should be used and using only one is just an acceptable compromise.

The exhaust pumps the air out the window but the inlet just pulls from my living room which is generally reasonably cool, around 70. I guess the cooler air going in is far more important than the hot air being pulled out, hence my fascination with exhausts being the main tool for temperature control in most grow room information sources.

My exhaust fan is far more powerful, I bet if I reversed the fan positions it would be far more effective.
Inlet fans create a noticeable breeze directly on or around the plant which helps them decrease their temperature more than what would happen if an exhaust fan is used.
 
I don't know your experience with growing tents but for an exhaust fan to be effective in controlling temperature, several precautions should be adhered to, and you might know all of these but I'm just saying:
1- intake vent should be at a low point in the tent in order for the air column to span the whole tent.
2- intake vent size should ideally be 1.25 to 1.5 times the size of your exhaust fan inlet to insure you're maximizing the utilization of your exhaust fan.
3- In case you have an air filter on your intake, then the intake size should be enlarged to at least 2 times the size of your exhaust fan inlet and to further increase the intake size according to the air filter's resistance.
4- To make sure that there are no points above the plants that can act as an air intake because this will simply create an air stream inside the tent that have a reduced effect on hot air around the plants.

I think, and this is only my theory, the prevalence of exhaust fans compared to inlet fans is that this idea is borrowed from greenhouses. Greenhouses typically use exhaust fans and create negative pressure inside them and I think people just followed suit. Some green houses of course use inlet fans to create positive pressure inside and this has the added benefit of preventing dust and insects from entering. On the other hand, a lot of marijuana growers might want to control the odor at some point in the future, so installing a fan in an exhaust configuration would allow them to easily install a carbon filter afterwards but a lot of people just follow what's popular without giving it much thought.

Exhaust fans are also typically used in computer cooling. Over-clockers and people using powerful GPUs add one or more inlet fans along with the exhaust fan(s). Manipulating the power of the exhaust and inlet fans would allow them to create either negative pressure, positive pressure or a balanced one.

From what I know, installing a fan in the inlet configuration should be slightly (just slightly) more efficient than installing it in an exhaust configuration. The inlet configuration can also create better temperature gradient inside the cooled space. For best cooling effect, both an inlet fan and an exhaust fan should be used and using only one is just an acceptable compromise.



Inlet fans create a noticeable breeze directly on or around the plant which helps them decrease their temperature more than what would happen if an exhaust fan is used.
thank you my friend, I really appreciate your reply, very helpful info.
 
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