exotic and greenpoint seeds

bigworm6969

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im just looking to grow dank and amos I never had a hydro unit only a flood table I got these pots from my hydro stores I was using them in my flood table but I been doing soil for a good while now I might go back soon or do half and half
 

Upstate2626

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He totally disrespected and never asked to begin with. I've been contacted by many reputable people asking permission. I've given everyone permission to do Stardawg outcrosses outside my family genetics and Chems. I had to contact him asking him to stop and we've all seen his response. He's also disrespected a few others also. He used tester packs from 303 Seeds to breed with. His actions speak for it's self for him as a person. SCUMBAG and karma will come back to slap him and all of the assclowns who have supported him and bought these hacked genetics. Got Hermies? LOL You get what you pay for. Bad karma.


Ouch- not the best to hear especially when your the new guy on the block.
 

TonightYou

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Yeah I went over to that thread and did some reading. Seems like greenpoint is fitting the exact definition of what so many of us call "pollen chucking".

Plus I see two issues with it, and it has nothing to do with if the genetics are fire or not. One being a money grab. Here is someone selling beans labeled testers for cheap. Kinda not testers then. It's simply untested beans for sale. The second being not respecting the wishes of selling beans simply crossed of JJ's gear, particularly since JJ has been cool with other people using his males for other crosses, see Bodhi and others.

On the other hand I don't like the idea of having to put stipulations on what someone does with beans they've purchased. Yet JJ could have put it more gracefully than he did as I can see why he said don't cross x, y or z because of possible stability issues that he worked on with the Chem family and inbreeding them can resurface those traits which can sully names he's worked hard on.

Eh I like the wild west aspect of the cannabis world but it isn't like these beans seemed to be of any actual work. Just using someone else's work and labeling it ones own. No honor among thieves and all that jazz.
 

Amos Otis

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im just looking to grow dank and amos I never had a hydro unit only a flood table I got these pots from my hydro stores I was using them in my flood table but I been doing soil for a good while now I might go back soon or do half and half
The exact containers came with the GH Emily's Garden - which I have two of. I'd put them away for awhile, but now use them to grow out reg beans and get cuts before cloning and sexing.
 

Upstate2626

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Keep in mind all these showed sacks. I did do my fair share of plucking through out.

Is there a strong hermy trait in the MonsterCookie x's? I have some entering flowering now- GG4 x MC. I also am starting to flower my Redeye Loctite which is another GG4 cross. I just hope I dont have nanner filled plants I have to pluck every other day. Just got done doing that with 2/6 of Redeye's Nirvana's (which I was told would toss nanners by the breeder). Pain in the ass but I knew that going into it.
 

COGrown

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Is there a strong hermy trait in the MonsterCookie x's? I have some entering flowering now- GG4 x MC. I also am starting to flower my Redeye Loctite which is another GG4 cross. I just hope I dont have nanner filled plants I have to pluck every other day. Just got done doing that with 2/6 of Redeye's Nirvana's (which I was told would toss nanners by the breeder). Pain in the ass but I knew that going into it.
Yes, of course there are strong tendencies towards intersex behavior in the Monster Cookies, that should be obvious from the genetics alone... Where were the pictures of the female monster cookies grown by Gu? Honestly, some people like to live up inside his asshole for some reason, but he has pulled shit that makes Swerve seem like a talented and upstanding breeder. Gu took test beans from 303 (which he got a 7/10 male ratio on) and picked an extremely dominant and vigorous male, which he seems to have used indiscriminately to knock up every female clone he had lying around with no rhyme or reason. Anyone buying those crosses should expect high male ratios and hermaphrodites. That is exactly what was signed up for. As for the Stardawg crosses, not only does everybody know how JJ feels about people making unauthorized knockoffs with his lines, but he had specific plans to work with the Stardawg (a strain he created over years of work and intended to use as a male in new strains). Given Gu's lack of male selection experience, I have absolutely no reason to believe that a Stardawg from Gu's selection would produce better offspring than a male selected by JJ from a substantially larger seed pool. This whole thing just seemed to me from the beginning to be a transparent cash grab from a guy with no breeding experience but access to some elites and a whole bunch of females from other breeders' work.
 

Amos Otis

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Honestly, some people like to live up inside his asshole for some reason...........Anyone buying those crosses should expect high male ratios and hermaphrodites. That is exactly what was signed up for.
For the record, I expect my state to be the LAST holdout in any legalization matters. I'm rather remote as it is, and have zero access to clones. I figured the GP MC crosses were a cheap way to possibly get to sample something close to GG#4 and Bruce Banner.

If this were a few yrs back, and I was dependent on the next grow for smoke, I'd run something else. But w/ a full cupboard of smoke jarred, this is a good time to run a risky grow. If it doesn't work out, that's the breaks, imo. And if it does.......well, I sure wouldn't mind a plant or 2 like the pics posted above. :weed:

I appreciate your posts CO.
 

COGrown

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For the record, I expect my state to be the LAST holdout in any legalization matters. I'm rather remote as it is, and have zero access to clones. I figured the GP MC crosses were a cheap way to possibly get to sample something close to GG#4 and Bruce Banner.

If this were a few yrs back, and I was dependent on the next grow for smoke, I'd run something else. But w/ a full cupboard of smoke jarred, this is a good time to run a risky grow. If it doesn't work out, that's the breaks, imo. And if it does.......well, I sure wouldn't mind a plant or 2 like the pics posted above. :weed:

I appreciate your posts CO.
Thanks. I hadn't had my morning coffee and bong when I posted that, so it was a little more hostile than it needed to be. While I have several issues with Greenpoint, the biggest is that Gu himself acquired a great deal of his females and the Monster Cookies male for free via testing for other breeders. To turn around and charge people for 'testing' or to charge people for untested F1 gear made with those test strains is not what I would consider scrupulous business practices.

Furthermore, for many breeders, the males they use are the signatures of their lines. I genuinely can't think of a female clone out there being used for breeding (that is not that specific breeder's creation) that is not being used by more than one breeder, let alone in the hands of closet/bedroom breeders. Therefore, they are left with their male selections to really make them stand out as a seed company. This is why most breeders use males that are either their own creation, or if they were originally created by others, they have at least worked one or two generations of selection with them.
 

Upstate2626

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Man- I am looking at this in a new light and IDK what to think now. Yes Gu did get a bunch of those females to knock up from testing others "free" genetics and I bet if he had told them that he was gonna start up a new company with their genetics they woulda passed on sending him all those free beans. Like you said COGrown- how do we even know what a Monster Cookie female looks like and why it would be the best daddy (bc 303 seeds is hard to come by is not the answer I wanna hear).

I can say that my GG4xMC looks nothing like my Loctite which has strong genetics behind its daddy and is growing strong and lush. I will post pics as they flower but the Loctite (GG4 x Mr Rainer) is way better looking structurally, is a faster vegger and has huge fan leaves. I only got 2 females outta a full pack with 100% germ on Greenpoints GG4 x MC compared to 6 females of Loctite that all popped also so you may be onto something with your post and theory which talked about being mostly male prodigy. Why wouldnt Greenpoint choose something with less hermy traits as his male in his first cross which introduces him into this game we call making beans? I still have 2 more packs of his MC x's that I am in no hurry to pop as I am a lil nervous about what I already have growing. As I said- the GG4xMC are just a couple days into 12/12 and will post what happens. If they herm bad- they get the axe and the other 2 packs will be given away to friends I dont really care for.
 
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