radicaldank42
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another thing is ive been dabbling around the idea of electro culture
exotic genetix
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Aheadatime
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I didn't use the words perfect or stress free. Tbh I'm getting lost on what it is we're disagreeing about. Yes, indoor is artificial, and therefore includes more unnatural stress. Agreed.
Sounded to me like you were saying 'don't select breeders based on herm rates, that has nothing to do with genetics and everything to do with environment'. Is that what you're saying, succinctly? If so, I disagree. In an environmentally comparable setup, some breeders genes are more prone to herm, and I'd recommend growers keep this in mind when deciding what to run.
radicaldank42
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i have not ran into any herm issues from exotic. what strains did you run that gave you that problem? thats whaat im wanting to know.
Aheadatime
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I don't really have any specific issue with exotic. That convo didn't begin with me voicing an issue. I kinda jumped into something that was already going on.
I've run exotic's cube crosses, triple OG crosses, and some of the cookies and cream crosses. The triple OG crosses gave me herms at a higher rate than the others, but I've gotten a herm here and there from almost any pack I've run from exotic. Nothing extraordinary, besides the triple og crosses. A few of those gave me the type of herms where each node is shared by pistils and a pollen sac. Was a real bloodbath lol
radicaldank42
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damn man thats intersesting. i just ordered the juice x mint chocolate chip carmelita and dirtey secrets
Aheadatime
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That's exciting. I've heard really good things about the mint chocolate chip crosses. Post it here if you find a keeper!
radicaldank42
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i plan to. i plan to cross a ew things with pu-tang i got from gage green group.
Update on Exotic Genetix ( Next Level) 3of 4 are going. And, 3/3 fire x bubba all consistent.
im not getting any consistency with the next level from exotic genetix. And, I’m really giving one of the next level benefit of the doubt. So 2/4 are really worth while. But, one Next level is a beast, and one Next level is the same size and consistency of fire x bubba.
I’m worried that I will get only one Next level. Prior experience ,running fems that are beastly, end up herming down the line.
not all the time , but I’ve seen it enough .
Will post more in future updates.
im not getting any consistency with the next level from exotic genetix. And, I’m really giving one of the next level benefit of the doubt. So 2/4 are really worth while. But, one Next level is a beast, and one Next level is the same size and consistency of fire x bubba.
I’m worried that I will get only one Next level. Prior experience ,running fems that are beastly, end up herming down the line.
not all the time , but I’ve seen it enough .
Will post more in future updates.
radicaldank42
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So to be fair I never run females seeds ever. I don't care what anyone says or whatever. But when you make feminized seeds you're stressing a female to make pollen sacs and then to pollinate the other surrounding females. Now the spray chemical says it won't pass the Hermie gene thru but idk about that cause life finds a way. But that's my belief. Have you ever tried running regs and using the males? For like more seeds or crosses?
Yes on the using regs.
well actually, I just started my own breeding, or chucking.
I got my first round of seeds, but haven’t popped them.
i recently chucked .
Male runtz (tiki) x Apple Tartz
“ “. X Kushmints
“. “. X. Lemon skunk x blue cookie
“. “. X Bahama Mama
Male cheetah piss x grape pie x gushers
Chucked to Bahama mama and Booberry cookies (ethos)
I don’t have a lot of space , so I run a variety.
Running into males takes up to much time and my space. But I’m going to try it.
hope to find something good.
LeftOurEyes
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When you use sts spray it blocks ethylene and does not create pollen through stress. I know you said you don't care what others say but that's how it works. I've ran tons of fem and reg seeds and the fems have never hermed on me at a higher rate than regs in my experience. The strains chosen to breed with will have a much higher impact than if the seeds are reg or fem. For example Cereal Milk is supposedly a strain that herms easy and I've seen different breeders using it in reg and fem crosses and they all mention herms showing up in the seeds.
radicaldank42
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Bro I'm gonna save you time find you're males and keep them in the smallest cups and then flower them for only a month. then buy a grinder with a screen grind up all the male flowers and collet the pollen store in a ziplock and store in freezer till use.but i did a island chill tagging. i taggged rainbow chip f2, goudaberry, and islnad chill itself. but i also do it outdoor so my plants start to acclimate to the u.p. weather
radicaldank42
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i totally get thats how it works. but my question is were dealing with plants who have been here longer then us. and to be able to allegedly block something that in its genetic code. and i believe that the plant would figure out to fix its self cause its been running the same primal genetic code for years. but again thats my opinion.not saying it does but it has a possibility.
LeftOurEyes
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Can't help but think of this movie when reading your comments lol
No doubt I think that the herm trait is an evolutionary process that the plant wants for it's survival and will always be in the plants genes to some degree. I just don't think that the plant is "evolving" from the use of sts spray by making the spray increase the chances of herms or at least if it is then it is not really at a noticeably higher rate. I've never personally seen that from my hunts at least. I think the herm trait is in some strains more than others (especially if one came from a bagseed created under stress) and which strains used for breeding has by far the biggest impact of all on herm rates. Some strains just want to herm more than others regardless if they are used in regular or feminized crosses. I'm sure we have many new things to learn about this plant though so who knows for sure.
Thanks for the PRO Tip.
That’s a great idea.
I can muster up enough space for that for this tech.
Lol!
radicaldank42
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yw. anytimeeee!
radicaldank42
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that actually what i was quoting the whole time. but anyways i get it but i havent ran into a herm before after my swith to only regs. but i will also say im picky in the strain lots of research on what i choose as well. but i do agree with you tho on that the herm genen is stronger in others then the rest and hermie ie a survival trait. and a plant will choose survival over everything else. like i love f1s
Modern Selections
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This is solid info right here! I do the same my friend A+
A lot of pollen can be collected and stored in short order and little space. Yeehaw
radicaldank42
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Just got a box from exotic, i. Chose Carmelita, juicy Bangor, and dirty little secrets. I got power sherb as free pack and sugar puss for freebies.
Dividedsky
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Does anyone think these red runtz release packs will be around for a while? There's a few I want but want to get a few other things first.