thats what I’m talking about , little hard to resist…
exotic genetix
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i remember not long ago he was asking crazy $$$ for his beans .
Nope_49595933949
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He still is on some I think, $150 a pack is a bit rich for me.
i remember when thug pug PBB was 80 a pack and now look what people are asking … glad I got that with some other of his stuff when I did …. But yeah 150 is a bit Rich
Dividedsky
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$150 isn't too bad but ya it's too pricey for 6 beans, if it s a legit 10+ beans that would not be bad. Don't like that exotic and in a few others are only doing 6 beans per pack of fems, went did that start becoming the standard?
Nope_49595933949
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I noticed that as well. Pretty nuts.
Dividedsky
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Ya it's fucking stupid, I usually like popping 6- 8 beans at a time and having some leftover just in case. Noticed Rado, exotic, and solfire have went down to 6 for fems- is it really too much to ask to put 4 more seeds in a pack? I noticed the pricier pack like compound genetics still have 10+ seeds for their fems as they should seeing as they have tags of $250- $400 a pack.
boundybounderson
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I'm trying to piece that story together in my head. A package went to an incorrect address which was the wrong zip code but was a zip code to a neighboring town (same street address but different town?) and they said that shipping it to an incorrect address was impossible because it wouldn't take two days? I don't get it.
Nope_49595933949
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They can get fucked on their 250-400 packs, I'm sure they are wonderful products, but that's insane. Now legit 'elite cuts' that's a different story, I'm still not paying but I get the price.
MonsterDrank
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No. 2 packages went to a totally different address with a different zip code. I have a good relationship with the folks at my local post office and they actually provided me with the complete address of where the items were shipped when I gave them the tracking numbers. They were shipped to a different street name than my own in a different neighborhood. The street names were completely different than what I provided them. Also.. its important to state I place orders with other seedbanks all the time. I never have these issues.
I was told by EG that the tracking information was probably incorrect and even tho it said "Delivered" that it was impossible for one of the packages to have reached its destination in that amount of time (2 days after they had sent it) even though it had.. but when he was saying that, he kept saying.. theres no way it could have reached that destination and been delivered in "one day"... he was using incorrect data.. because it hadn't been 1 day... it had in fact been 2 days.. because that's what the tracking information had clearly shown on the USPS website. The point is.. facts didn't matter. Nothing I said mattered. They wanted me to sit on my thumbs and give it a week and see what happened. I reluctantly agreed but said fine.. we'll see what happens.. and then out of the blue it was like he snapped and went psycho nuts on me. I even apologized after his outburst and maintained composure and tried to be the better guy.. they had my money and I had nothing but a tracking number and a strangers address.
Is there anything else you'd like to know? I think I spelled out the story with enough details. Point is.. I'm done with EG. I don't care if they have fire. It's 2022.. theres a lot of fire out there. No customer should be called a dick bag when trying to sort out a delivery issue that was caused by the sender.
When they input an address from the actual order into their shipping software and it alters/changes the address to a completely different address and whoever does it, isn't paying attention and doesn't notice.. just mails the package anyway to the wrong address... its not the customers fault. That's exactly what happened.
As long as you don't have a shipping problem or any problem at all. Cuz if you do.. you might get called a dickbag.
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radicaldank42
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im not calling anyone out at all when i say this, but why do people get all upset when people charge beans fror up the ass amounts now dont get me wrong ive been to some private auctions with gage green where the seeds go for 20000+$$ i totally agree when i say thats rich for my blood but at the same time youre paying for hard work and genetics that not many people have. to me its like the difference between walmart seeds vs heirloom seed. its not like that all the time but to me anyways.
Nope_49595933949
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I can only speak for me personally, but I'm not upset or offended, they can charge what they like.
radicaldank42
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same. to me this isnt my work and if it was me and i put in all the work im gonna charge you what i feel is what i put in to it.
Toadbreath1
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@MonsterDrank, Man, I really feel for you. Especially considering you were the original response to the thread creator in 2015 and purchased/supported his gear all these years.
I actually bought 3 boxes of back stock based on you initial mention of the deal back then. After hearing this, will be last, unless you tell us he takes care of it with you down the road.
This is the 3 sets put in one box and a pic of a poster. Exotic has his marketing game on.
I actually bought 3 boxes of back stock based on you initial mention of the deal back then. After hearing this, will be last, unless you tell us he takes care of it with you down the road.
This is the 3 sets put in one box and a pic of a poster. Exotic has his marketing game on.
MonsterDrank
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As long as you don't have a shipping problem
Yeah I was a vocal supporter of EG based on earlier experiences in 2012. I've made a lot of thread posts talking about supporting my favorite breeders. I'm sorry to say that this just isn't one anymore. I'm gonna stick with Bodhi, Greenpoint, Dynasty, and maybe try some new things. I'm actually working on a Blackberry Preservation project now that will keep me busy for a while.. got some Bodhi Field Trip incoming too. Life's too short to dwell on things but I felt like venting the other day. I wish you the best.. if you get a chance.. check out the massive Bodhi thread on RIU.. Bodhi is super talented and has a cult like following for a reason. He also treats his customers like gold. Great guy. Fancy labels and packaging are great but ultimately it's the genetics and stability of the cross and quality of the plants those seeds produce that are most important. That's what Bodhi has always for many years been super on point.
Dividedsky
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Nice dood....that girl is gonna be a monster!!! I would hit it with some more lollipoppin' at like day 21...that's just me though
Dividedsky
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Ya MonsterDrank, EG lost a very good customer in you. You seem like a humble dude and I'd like to see Mike/EG looking how you were a huge part of contributing to this thread going back to 2015. I remember seeing Monster making some great informative posts right on the first page of this thread. Some of you probably weren't of age to grow then though, haha jk. Some people probably don't realize that these threads can really get seed sales going for some of these breeders, if people Google certain breeders and strains, alot of the as rollitup threads will pop up first when searching info. I remember the thugpug thread was nuts for like a year, people were posting on the thread and packs were selling out in seconds, it was pretty funny.
ps- and I'm with you Prop P of Dynasty genetics and Bodhi are great people by all accounts...I don't know about the collab bodhi did with Berner and Cookies though..
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MonsterDrank
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Back in 2010-2012.. I don't remember when exactly but I was co-system Moderator of a large online forum seedbank called "The Seed Depot" that was before it went belly up and the admin/owner, guy in Spain went by JB, he unfortunately fleeced all its breeders and customers by holding a big sale and then literally taking everyone's money and running.. but before all that drama and the big heist.. things were bumpin over there. That site was amazing for the longest time. We'd get all these big seed drops from Bodhi, 303 Seeds, Pisces Genetics, Motoarebel, Sin City.. all the big guys.. it was a great time while it lasted.
This was back when Exotic Genetix was new to the online canna forum scene, seedbanks weren't as prevalent.. and Mike, going by the handle Exotic Genetix had a few packs like Supernatural, Fire Alien Black, Kimbo Kush.. I had a conversation with him and put him in touch with their admin and we welcomed him with open arms and sold his seeds.. then he brought along some buddies.. we had other Pacific Northwest area breeders like Thunderfudge, Kagyu, Red Eyed Genetics, Lemon Hoko... all come through our door right after.. we welcomed them all with open arms and I remembered having chats and talks one on one with all of them. Mike even sent me Starfighter f2s. We sold all their gear on the site back then. Lemon Hoko I think was going by or working with someone else under the label Green Beans. Red Eyed Genetics had some nice looking gear. It all was very pleasant.
I eventually grew a plant I found in Mike's Starfighter F2s for years.. it was a hell of a keeper. I eventually lost that plant when I was hospitalized for brain surgery and what not.. I loved that Starfighter and told everyone for years how amazing it was. I had a super frosty pink lemonade pheno that was super loud.. but here we are 2022.. I haven't tried to grow his gear or looked at it for a while because honestly I was not growing anything after needing years to recover from a Sepsis infection that nearly killed me after a bad neurological surgery. I survived but couldn't walk for a long time.. I wasted away in a hospital bed and lost a lot of muscle.. it was a horrendous experience. I lost my Starfighter keeper, my A11g clone, my Space Princess, my Chernobyl Golden Ticket.. lost it all. Even the seed fridge I had broke down. I was in no way capable of doing anything at all about any of it. It's only by a miracle that some of these 10+ year old seeds still germinate. My Blackberry Lotus seeds that I cracked in March of this year are living proof that miracles do happen tho.
So many years pass by..
So here I am in 2022 and planning to buy a new home in the very near future and I wanted to re-stock this new seed fridge that I bought.. I plan on doing some big runs upcoming soon.. I re-connected with all my old forum grow pals and breeders that remembered me and aquired over 40 packs of Bodhi's gear.. and some Starfighter backcrosses, Mac F2s, Mac crosses, and I thought I'd buy some EG gear too. I almost got scammed buy that Insane Seeds clone scam site when I tried to get a EG OMFG pack and that's how all this mess started. I learned that someone was posting fraudulent posts on Instagram posing as Insaneseeds and advertising the EG Power Sherb Box for sale.. I was able to thankfully recover the money I sent the Fake Insaneseeds site but I reported the scammers to Insaneseeds directly and to EG on their Discord. I struck up a pleasant conversation with Mike and told him about the scammers.. he didn't remember me at all. He then said he appreciate my love of Starfighter and said.."Hey I got some new OMFG seed line coming out soon, I'll throw u a free pack. Just shoot me a message when you see their release." I never did take him up on that.. & That's basically my only conversation with the guy until I had a order issue a couple weeks later.
I had 2 Build a box orders with EG and a Power Sherb Box order with a vendor completed.. and another Power Sherb Box pending at a Vendor. I had literally over $1200 invested in seeds from EG that week.. and a couple hundred at JBC seeds in EG seeds the week before.. None of that mattered tho. You'd think you'd wanna treat a guy who can afford to casually blow a grand on seeds when he feels like it.. with some sort of class or something? I mean I have been in sales before and had to deal with customers myself in past occupations, and rule #1 always was.. you treat your customers with courtesy and kindness.. so I didn't understand why I was treated like I was.
I mean I did buy all of these packs in less than a months time.. would have bought more..
A rep from his company was in a Discord chat trying to help me and I corrected her when she didn't see the obvious mistake that the shipping address I provided wasn't actually on the package.. and when she said she was going to help me and re-ship that's when another rep named Steve and Mike jumped in on the chat at the same time and before I knew it, I was talking to three people at once.. Mike said he was going to help me but wanted me to wait a week before he did.. his reasoning was.. there was no way the package could get there in one day, even though it was 2 days since they shipped... and then all of a sudden it was like he snapped.. called me a dick bag.. he was just like a whole different person all of a sudden.. he said he didn't want my money, I was gonna get a refund and he was done with me. I confused at the time, apologized and said I didn't understood and was being sincere.. asked why he was upset and he just kept up the same rhetoric saying he was done with me.. and he left the chat. It was really unprofessional and unpleasant to go through that. His other reps kept telling me to let them know what happened.. I of course didn't feel like I was going to get any assistance from Mike at that point so I tracked down my order on my own. It went to the most ghetto, bad part of town in the city that I live near. I fortunately was able to get package #1 and then had to go back the next day and get package #2.. it was a real pain in the ass.. I took photos of the packages with the wrong address on them and posted in the Discord.. "Hey guess what. I was right all along." I showed them that they DID in fact arrive and they DID have a wrong address on both. I posted proof. Mike never thanked me for doing any of the leg work or apologized to me. Instead his lackeys posted something like.. thats great, glad to hear it.. and closed the chat/ticket.. & that folks, was my EG experience when ordering direct. I even said in the chat to these Guys "Geez i was planning on ordering a Gold Box too." Obviously that didn't happen tho.. and that's why I'll never buy from them again.. and if anyone else had a similar experience and was led there from any of my past posts or recommendations.. I sincerely apologize.. because the guy I talked to in the Discord chat that day, wasn't the same guy I had spoke to who was very friendly and enthusiastic about cannabis back in 2012.. or whenever that was.
Anyway.. im already sick of talking about it. I wanna move on. It's all 100% true and unfortunate. There's other Breeders with fire who are better deserving of my time and money.
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Raymond Knight
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I picked up a few packs when they were really on sale of more chocolate marshmallows about a year ago, they are all gone now, zero viability compared to a few years ago when I originally bought the strain, also happening with a pack I picked up of the cube a few years ago thats been in sitting in my seedbank, almost through half of each pack and cant get them to pop anymore.