expected yield

hi i was wondering what would be a good range of weight to expect if i plant outdoors with a month veg indoors and around 4-5 months outdoor?

depends on the size of the hole the strain amount of light reseved and the nutes
big hole wil help alot
as for most resinibal conditions if you top it a bit well it is young
expect if you put the work in a qp - a few pounds

Why r u asking a question like this? No one is going to reply with a actual good answer because they aren't going to waste time with questions such as this. WAYYY 2 many variables that would determine your yield. Your yield should b the last of your worries; worry about what kind of soil are u going 2 use, type of nutes/ organic? , genetics, geographic location, cultivation methods, pests and srrsly the list goes on. Please actually think a bit b4 u even attempt to ask a question like this, and if so be specific and not as vague as u r atm. I don't wana b negative but I only want to help and your question will not help you at all. Think about the points I listed above as these will surely effect your yield substantially.

Common0ne

Common0ne said:

Why r u asking a question like this? No one is going to reply with a actual good answer because they aren't going to waste time with questions such as this. WAYYY 2 many variables that would determine your yield. Your yield should b the last of your worries; worry about what kind of soil are u going 2 use, type of nutes/ organic? , genetics, geographic location, cultivation methods, pests and srrsly the list goes on. Please actually think a bit b4 u even attempt to ask a question like this, and if so be specific and not as vague as u r atm. I don't wana b negative but I only want to help and your question will not help you at all. Think about the points I listed above as these will surely effect your yield substantially.

Common0ne

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ok ok i was pretty vague, I am growing in southern minnesota with regular fertilizer or miracle grow all depending on how much funds i come up with by this may. i want to do a couple of spread out guerilla grows with between 5-10 plants per place. I wasnt planning on using any nutes or anything. I need it to be as cost efficient as possible. I was also thinking of putting up chicken wire around the grows to prevent and animals from destroying my plants. I also havent thought of any particular strains but i want to try a couple out, plus i got a lot bagseeds that ive been wanting to use, Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful

with using just miracle grow soil and not tending to your plants youll be lucky to get 12oz from 10 small shitty plants and the bud wont be good dont kid yourself, for plants to grow big and yeild high they need water every day or so and good nutes. if you put nothing into the plants but some soil and a guerrila spot youll be lucky to get anything in the end, if you invest in some soil ferts, and tend to them youll get yeild and deecent bud.... hopefully lol

Between 1 gram and 2 pounds...If u sacrifice a goat and a chicken though you will easily double your yield, its worked for me in the past.
LM

lilman said:

Between 1 gram and 2 pounds...If u sacrifice a goat and a chicken though you will easily double your yield, its worked for me in the past.
LM

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lol i like your style lilman +rep

hahaha funny lilman, but i will be attending to them weekly cannabis krew. I will water them atleast once a week from the time i check on them. I just do not see the need to check on them everyday or every other day for that matter, i grew a couple of super small plants outdoors last year so i have an idea of what i am doing. But what would be good soil for my grow? I will have a good spot and dig out the holes for the plants i plant, I just find it hard to believe i will only get 12 ounces from 10 plants if they are growing for close to 5 plus months?

Now that is a lot better. Well for the miracle grow, I have heard of it being used quite often, and in my eyes isn't as bad as people claim it to be. I personally would not plant directly into MG as it is quite hot stuff but again, it's what would suit you best. What you can do is acquire a soiless mix of your choice and layer it above the MG soil. This will allow your plants to slowly transition to more nutes, reducing the chance of a nute burn. You can also make multiple layers of different ratios of soiless mix with MG soil, ex. 1-1 , which can be your 2 layer of soil before a pure mix of MG soil as the final layer. Experiment and figure out what will suit you best is my best advice. TBH tho, I am not entirely sure if MG is going to last throughout your entire grow, so you should maybe consider acquiring a fertilizer for any nute deficiencies, if any do occur. Genetics on the other hand is something you have to figure out as I don't entirely know what genetics grow best where, due to maybe the strain being more resistant to frost, mold, disease, pests, and etc. Before purchasing your seeds, do some background research of the genetics to see what kind of plants you are going to end up with, understand that there may be different Phenotypes of the plant so not every 1 of them is going to be the same, which is what a lot of ppl don't understand. You can fix this if you have a mother plant and make clones. You would probably want to look into the category of a seed that has much dominance in the Indica department as this will give you a shorter flowering time and a smaller plant (vertically), which is what you want cuz u don't want skyscraper plants and plants that take 12-14 weeks to fully flower. I am assuming what you are doing is prob illegal so u wana harvest as early as your plants will let u. Now chicken wire as protection..hm.. if you can do it in a non conspicuous manner then by all means, just make sure it will not be visible from overhead; just try to make the place as natural looking as possible. Anything that is going to stand out of the ordinary will attract attention, tip (do not leave ANYTHING white out in the open as this will be able to be seen clearly overhead).

Common0ne

that is one thing i was contemplating with the chicken wire, if i do it right then it shouldnt be to noticeable but if i do a bad obnoxious job at it then it could lead to problems. Just out of curiosity what is the best all around type of soil to go with?

I use miracle grow for my guerrilla grow and they are growing fast and are healthy ill have pics soon enough but i got 6 out there and all are doing fine with miracle grow.

Xymox u will do fine using miracle grow for a guerilla grow.Take a ph meter and check ph of the soil where u will be growing that will tell u what ur soil needs.Pick out some good seeds preferably not bagseed.With a decent sized hole plenty of direct sun and water when needed u will get way more than what was said a few posts ago.

ok so should i stick with the miracle grow plan and dig a nice big hole for each one?

big holes are a yes, the bigger the hole the more room the roots have to grow, the bigger the plant gets, chicken wire should not be that noticable as long as you just do a small thing around each plant and maybe spray paint it green so it doesnt stand out. If your planning on just using mg soil and not adding any other ferts it wont be great, you can use mg ferts to feed your plants if you want but there are better things. for veg you want ferts high in Nitrogen, for flower you want something high in potassium, you might wanna consider adding some sort of liquid fert with your water each time, and trust me the more often your plants get water the better. its far better to water in small amounts every 2-3 days than large amounts every 7. but if its heat to be going to your plants so much then its not worth it, im just saying water as often as possible

What I use per 3x3x3(ish) hole:
One Half to One Whole bale of Pro mix sphagnum peat moss (you'll know it when you see it. they (lowe's home depot/walmart usually have regular 'sphagnum peat moss and some sort of "Pro" or "enriched" s. peat moss)
biggest bag of 'organic' soil lowes or walmart has-(usually 40 lbs)
5lbs worm castings. (walmart/lowes/home depot has 'em)
After filling hole w/ above ingredients, mix well, place plant,Back fill w/ native soil. Cover ground around/beneath plant w/ debris from around you. (leaves, twigs, rocks are good! This keeps soil from drying out as quickly, and disguises your plot!)
Gather all trash and move on to next spot!
For ferts, an old timer gave me this tip, and I used it w/ success; get a bag of ammonia nitrate along w/ a bag of dry feed molasses from the local feed store. When your plants get hardened enough to be able to take some nitrogen--mine usually get this way around 1st of may round-a-bouts--take a small handful (very small!) and sprinkle around the perimeter of each plants hole. Do this right before a good rain if possible and the nitrogen gets washed down to the roots of your plants. . do this 3 maybe 4 times over the course of the summer. Till maybe the end of june. Then start spreading the molasses around your plants the same way. Do this till end of August when it rains (if previous is washed away) This definitely makes your plants frostier! I can attest to this fact from firsthand exp.I fed molassses a couple of times.
Anyway there's my 2 sense.Maybe it'll help a brother out, maybe I'm high! lol sorry for the long post!



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Also, about the chicken wire, you can use fishing line instead. Tie between trees at various heights every 8in.- a foot, starting at the bottom going up to about 3-4 ft.

Check my journal pics for results.

Wider holes are better then deeper..MJ roots dont go much further down then 16 inches, this is a fact of nature ..but they go sideways a heck of a long way. Also fishing line works awesome for deer but didnt stop any rabbits...take a shit in your patch once a week..best way i found to handle most animal invaders....Just watch where u step after.

Peace Lilman

doowmd do you dig that size hole for each plant or for a couple?

Each one. Seems like a lot, but get a pick-axe: and it takes a lot of the work out of it!

The same old timer that give me the amonia tip asked me, when we first started taslking about growing, 'how big I dug my holes?' And I say to him "aww, bout 3x3x3", and held out my arms to show him. And he raised his eyebrow and was like "well that'll still work" and I was kinda shocked and asked "Is that not big enough?" and he said "well I like to dig mine this big" and held out his arms nearly as wide as they would go! "But those (3x3x3) should do fine".
Anyway, the point is: all the old timers I know personally and the ones I've watched on here:
Fdd,Mygirls,Loadeddragon,orangeshovel......they all dig big ass holes for each plant and they grow monsters! Some use an auger, but they're usually somewhere in a med state. For us backwoods dudes....it's the pick axe, shovel and hard tine rake.
Start diggin now to avoid all the tangle of new spring growth.