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snow4aaron

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Hello
I have 2 65w Lights of America flood lights with the screw in type bulb. I wired them up to power cord but I can't seem to get them to work at the same time. Any ideas? Thanks!
 

dogtato

Member
The maximum watts is based on the heat from the type of bulb it was designed for, one of the first lights I used for seedling was a desk lamp, the one with the four tube floro's.
If the bulbs you have are 65 watt, not 65 watt equivalent, you might consider getting better sockets and using 12 wire with a 20 amp breaker for just those 4 lights. Most actual 65 watt cfl's have a mogul base, so I am guessing you have 65 watt equivalent bulbs, and in that case all of what you are considering should be fine. You might want to protect the cords and plugs from spilled water. I appreciate the support, that is funny. VV :clap:
They're 300w equivalent (I think they might be 68 watt?) but fit in a regular socket. Got them at Home Depot for $15 each.

I was thinking of mounting them to the wall so I wouldn't have to worry about them getting wet and because there's not much space amidst a SOG setup for desk lamps.
 

DMC65

Member
Nope, No concern at all about the light. Actually it is a brand new 250W Digital electronics ballast and cord set. I also have an air sealed/cooled glass reflector. I just figured there would be some simple attachment i could get to hook up to my light plug that will turn it off if it gets to a certain temperature. I have no idea about wireing and i wouldnt know where to begin to install a thermal switch.. is there a noob thermal switch where i can just place what i want plugged into it and have those shut off in the event that the temperature reaches 150 degrees or whatever. Also i will have PLENTY of ventilation as i have the tents exaust and the lights exaust competly seperate from eachother so i should be able to get that light RIGHT DOWN THERE BABY.. WOOO.. anyway is there any nooby thermal switches or does noone bother>?


Kinda like the fan control speed things, only a heat senor and circuit breaker instead.. make sence?[/quote

I agreewith VV you won't need the thermal shut off switch but if you hve an extra $100 burnin a hole in you pocket you could buy this:

CAP HLC-3e High Temp Shut-Down W/15 Minute ON Delay
[199848]

$89.90


CAP HLC-3e High Temperature Shut-Down with 15 Minute ON Delay
  • HLC-3e combines the functions of HLC-1 and HLC-2 to protect your lights from hot starts and your garden from high temperatures
  • A high temperature shutdown provides insurance from crop damage due to high heat from ventilation and cooling problems
  • HLC-3e senses a power interruption and will start a 15-minute delay to keep the light from trying to re-fire during the cool down period
  • Rated for 15 amps at 120 volts
  • Includes 3 ft remote temperature sensor
 

Ap0c0leS

Active Member
Well im back again for another Question.. I believe i have two 12v PC fans that i would like to connect together somehow.. im guessing to a 12 volt adapter so i can plug them into a normal electrical outlet. Do you know what im saying? One of the fans is about 2 inchs around and the other is about 7". the larger fan has a 3 speed control switch, this fan is called an antec 3 speed fan and has a 3 speed control .. L M H.. How do i connect these fans together and adapt them to a power source to plug them into the wall.. the small fan says DC12V 1.0W (model N5010B2) ...


Small fan has 3 cords.. one red one black one yellow...... small pc hookup on the end
Large fan has 2 cords .. black and red and it goes into a regluar pc power adapter slot that you would plug into a hard drive or that would fit into one of the power supply cords
 

VictorVIcious

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Well im back again for another Question.. I believe i have two 12v PC fans that i would like to connect together somehow.. im guessing to a 12 volt adapter so i can plug them into a normal electrical outlet. Do you know what im saying? One of the fans is about 2 inchs around and the other is about 7". the larger fan has a 3 speed control switch, this fan is called an antec 3 speed fan and has a 3 speed control .. L M H.. How do i connect these fans together and adapt them to a power source to plug them into the wall.. the small fan says DC12V 1.0W (model N5010B2) ...


Small fan has 3 cords.. one red one black one yellow...... small pc hookup on the end
Large fan has 2 cords .. black and red and it goes into a regluar pc power adapter slot that you would plug into a hard drive or that would fit into one of the power supply cords
They 12 volt converter in the cpu can be removed and used. :blsmoke:VV:roll:
 
How many amp circuit do I need to run four 1k hps and two 400 hps bulbs? Can I use say the exsisting cicuit for the four 1K in the bedroom coming fro the service which is a 20 amp circuit? And use another 20 amp circuit for the other two 400hps? What is the best way to wire this to a service? Thanks!
 
Okay. I got myself some seeds that I germinated, and I'll need to plant them tomorrow. I got a light fixture CFL's.

Black/White > Negative/Positive? How do I wire that to a plug to plug into an outlet? Just cut the chord off something? Then how do I know what to wire to what? Thanks.
 

VictorVIcious

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ok, i have a switchable 1000w ballast that was a 110v and the previous owner opened it up and switched some wires around and presto....220.
but i only have 110 and need to open it up and switch it back. is there any hope for me or am i gonna have to pay someone to do this? i wired the op and some of the house so i have a decent understanding of electricity but i have never opened up a ballast or anything like that.
All of the wires in a ballast are marked. As long as your neutrals all stay connected and you only disconnect one Hot wire you should be fine. There could be two or 3 parts in there, Mh has a capacitor and the ballast, the hps has a starter as well. All of the items you would be concerned about should be clearly marked. VV:blsmoke:
 

VictorVIcious

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How many amp circuit do I need to run four 1k hps and two 400 hps bulbs? Can I use say the exsisting cicuit for the four 1K in the bedroom coming fro the service which is a 20 amp circuit? And use another 20 amp circuit for the other two 400hps? What is the best way to wire this to a service? Thanks!
the formula is volts x amps = watts. Divide watts by volts it will give you amps. For an operation like that, you would want to install much more than a couple of 20 amp circuits. I have 8 circuits dedicated to my op and I only have 3-1000 watt lights. VV:blsmoke:
 

VictorVIcious

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Okay. I got myself some seeds that I germinated, and I'll need to plant them tomorrow. I got a light fixture CFL's.

Black/White > Negative/Positive? How do I wire that to a plug to plug into an outlet? Just cut the chord off something? Then how do I know what to wire to what? Thanks.
This may help. The colors of the wires and screws will be the same in the fixture. You should use wire nuts and seal those off with electric tape. :blsmoke: VV
 

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n00bGrower

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If I have an a/c adapter from a router that has an output of 48v, can I potentially hook up 4 12v pc fans as long as I don't exceed the amps on the adapter?
 

nellyatcha

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Hi there fellow RIU'ers... Over and over again I continualy see new threads and posts about electrical work question and thought I would post a couple threads to help you guys the same way all of you who have done such a great job having helped me... So, Do you have a grow room question about how to wire something up, or what are the safest ways of doing things? The most important one I see alot is people running lights and fans off power chords... I have wired my own grow room and will post an example of my work.

Please, if you have any questions and are unsure of what to do or if what you are doing is safe, PLEASE! ask me first if you are even a tad bit unsure. I would hate to hear anyone have an electrical fire because they didn't quite know what they were doing when all they needed to do was to ask a couple of questions... I will do my best to point you in the right direction.

If you want to do some wiring your self, I will either let you know if your project is too complicated if your not handy with electrical, or, IF YOU ASK, I will walk you thru your project step by step.

So please, ASK AWAY!!!

You can post questions here but you may not get your question answerd on the thread, best way to go about it is PM me. You will forsure get a response back.

PS Even if you have basic around the home electrical questions, shoot em my way.

what kind of ballast is this because i bought it and i was told its a mh and came with the fixture, and it ran hot with the mh bulb and now i put a 430w hps in it and it runs way better and dont get as hot so whats the deal with that and i will submit pics as well. it doesnt have a ignitor and i have pics of both my 400w halide and my 430w super argo hps, and its non conversion either
 

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Dolce Vita

Active Member
hey guys does anybody have any idea how to make an old 12v xbox fan hook up to the wall without me going out and buying an inverter?
 

HighAddi

Member
I just need to know if I need to use a ballast with a 200W CFL? Or could I just use a simple clamp lighting fixture? I see that they do sell 200W CFL but no ballasts.
 

riznob10000

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Okay, i've only read through the first 15 pages of this thread so far, but I felt extremely compelled to jump to the end and post before I finish reading.

Please people, just stop now!!! To all of you trying to do your own funky wiring, trying to refurbish old equipment or make use out of some old shit that you found, or were given from a friend, whatever!! JUST STOP NOW BEFORE YOU HURT YOURSELF OR MORE IMPORTANTLY SOMEONE ELSE!!! Don't fuck around with this shit!! Were talkin about lots of electricity and heat, and some of you fuckers are gonna start a fire and kill someone. I'm not kidding!! I had ( notice the post tense ) a dumb ass friend who tried fuckin around with some hokey shit and burnt half his house down and nearly killed three people!!! Neighbors had to bang on their front door to wake them up or they would all be dead now. PLEASE STOP NOW!!!

Bite the bullet and go buy lights and peripheral equipment that is manufactured and rated for this kind of usage, and maybe THEN ask questions on how to properly set it up. Quit doin all this funky do-it-yourself slab together this shit with that shit. Nobody is going to benefit from your half-assed setup or be impressed with your thriftyness. They might not even come to your funeral when you kill yourself due to your own stupidity. And if you end up harming someone else, well, better run far and fast, cause everyone's gonna want a piece of your ass. I definately wouldn't want to be living next to some of you people, not with the fire hazards you are creating.

A very large number of the questions and pics I see on here scare the hell outta me. Yes, some of you people scare me. You have opposable thumbs and an extremely large frontal cortex; please use them wisely. If you don't have the cash to do it right, then DON'T DO IT!!! Wait until you can do it properly, and here's the most important point, safely.

Our movement, our cause, our desire to be able to enjoy what we want to do in our free time, is not going to be helped by dumb asses startin' fires and killin people and destroying property. So just stop now please. Do it the right way, or don't do it at all.

I just gotta say also, this thread is great, and will hopefully save some people from gettin hurt.:peace:

P.S. don't forget to have smoke/fire alarms and a fire extinguisher OUTSIDE of your grow space and easily accessible.
 

riznob10000

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what kind of ballast is this because i bought it and i was told its a mh and came with the fixture, and it ran hot with the mh bulb and now i put a 430w hps in it and it runs way better and dont get as hot so whats the deal with that and i will submit pics as well. it doesnt have a ignitor and i have pics of both my 400w halide and my 430w super argo hps, and its non conversion either
From three posts up on this page. Case in point. This is the kinda stuff i'm talkin about! You say you bought this. From which junk dealer and in which decade? Looks like somethin Ben Franklin might have worked with, and you've got it sittin on a piece of cardboard? Can you really not see the fire hazard? Scrap that shit bro, and go " buy " a new system from a reputable supplier. I'm serious, before you do harm to yourself or someone else, throw that shit away!!!! Don't give it to someone else. Don't sell it. Throw it away. WTF?
 

VictorVIcious

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hey guys does anybody have any idea how to make an old 12v xbox fan hook up to the wall without me going out and buying an inverter?
There is a post on using a telephone charger cord or cords from other similar devices posted in FAQ, upper left hand corner of every page, check there. VV

HighAddi 200 Watt CFL
I just need to know if I need to use a ballast with a 200W CFL? Or could I just use a simple clamp lighting fixture? I see that they do sell 200W CFL but no ballasts.
The ballast is internal, its in the base of the bulb, you will probably need a mogul socket, available at all hydro shops for around 10 buck with the cord. VV:twisted:
 

VictorVIcious

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Okay, i've only read through the first 15 pages of this thread so far, but I felt extremely compelled to jump to the end and post before I finish reading.

Please people, just stop now!!! To all of you trying to do your own funky wiring, trying to refurbish old equipment or make use out of some old shit that you found, or were given from a friend, whatever!! JUST STOP NOW BEFORE YOU HURT YOURSELF OR MORE IMPORTANTLY SOMEONE ELSE!!! Don't fuck around with this shit!! Were talkin about lots of electricity and heat, and some of you fuckers are gonna start a fire and kill someone. I'm not kidding!! I had ( notice the post tense ) a dumb ass friend who tried fuckin around with some hokey shit and burnt half his house down and nearly killed three people!!! Neighbors had to bang on their front door to wake them up or they would all be dead now. PLEASE STOP NOW!!!

Bite the bullet and go buy lights and peripheral equipment that is manufactured and rated for this kind of usage, and maybe THEN ask questions on how to properly set it up. Quit doin all this funky do-it-yourself slab together this shit with that shit. Nobody is going to benefit from your half-assed setup or be impressed with your thriftyness. They might not even come to your funeral when you kill yourself due to your own stupidity. And if you end up harming someone else, well, better run far and fast, cause everyone's gonna want a piece of your ass. I definately wouldn't want to be living next to some of you people, not with the fire hazards you are creating.

A very large number of the questions and pics I see on here scare the hell outta me. Yes, some of you people scare me. You have opposable thumbs and an extremely large frontal cortex; please use them wisely. If you don't have the cash to do it right, then DON'T DO IT!!! Wait until you can do it properly, and here's the most important point, safely.

Our movement, our cause, our desire to be able to enjoy what we want to do in our free time, is not going to be helped by dumb asses startin' fires and killin people and destroying property. So just stop now please. Do it the right way, or don't do it at all.

I just gotta say also, this thread is great, and will hopefully save some people from gettin hurt.:peace:

P.S. don't forget to have smoke/fire alarms and a fire extinguisher OUTSIDE of your grow space and easily accessible.


I appreciate your sentiment, the purpose of this thread is to give folks advice so they won't have accidents. If I were you and I had four cfl's hanging from cheap extension cords using y splitters that are not wrapped with anything, I probably wouldn't have posted anything like this until I took care of that. I am sure you have done this before, its not your first grow, I am sure you are trying to be helpful. Maybe there is a way you could say about the same thing without trying to sound like 'the authority', especially since questioning authority is part of all of your posts. VV:evil:
 

riznob10000

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I appreciate your sentiment, the purpose of this thread is to give folks advice so they won't have accidents. If I were you and I had four cfl's hanging from cheap extension cords using y splitters that are not wrapped with anything, I probably wouldn't have posted anything like this until I took care of that. I am sure you have done this before, its not your first grow, I am sure you are trying to be helpful. Maybe there is a way you could say about the same thing without trying to sound like 'the authority', especially since questioning authority is part of all of your posts. VV:evil:
I knew someone would have somethin to say to me directly, and though I didn't address you directly, i'm glad;-) you appreciate my sentiment. Obviously this thread is meant for advice to avoid accidents, but since I didn't find that anyone had echoed my sentiment, I gave some advice as well, meant of course to help people avoid accidents. I hope you found a little more from my threads than somethin to try and dog me on, but since you brought it up, yes my four cfl's are on cheap ( as opposed to terribly expensive ) extension cords, but hmmm, the cords are rated for thirteen amps, or 1625 watts, and i'm not even pullin one tenth of that, so ah, I think i'll do alright. As for the splitters and sockets, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I did do the math, and I'm fine there as well. And what the fuck would I wrap them with, and why? To actually CREATE a fire hazard? Do you wrap the sockets of all the lights in your house with somethin? Am I missin part of the code somewhere?:confused:

And yes, I was trying to be helpful, by giving a dose of " reality ", not be " the authority " which I'm not, and don't pretend to be, although that's totally what you seem to be coming off as. Are YOU the authority? Did I give bad advice, Mr. decider of what constitutes a valid post? Is this your thread? Whatever. I'm done with you; no more conversation.:twisted:

To everyone else, i'm sorry if you were offended, but my post was intended to grab your attention and hopefully make some of you rethink what you're tryin to do, for safety's sake, not cost effectiveness or convienience. If I made at least one person think " you know, he's probably right, maybe I shouldn't try that, I'll do it the right way ", then my post was successful. I know three people that have died in fires ( not from growin, those friends were lucky, but still...) and I'm just hopin other people don't have to feel what it's like, or end up an innocent victim.

Be safe and have a great day!:peace:
 

n00bGrower

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... If I made at least one person think " you know, he's probably right, maybe I shouldn't try that, I'll do it the right way " ...
I think the only thing anyone who has read your post came away with is "Wow, that riznoob1000 guy is a real asshole."

Vic and the other experienced people here have supplied invaluable information to anyone who has needed or requested it. Their focus has always been offering advice with safety being paramount. Your contributions to this thread have done nothing but expose your own inability to participate in a forum discussion in a mature way.

Granted, there are obvious safety issue when doing any DIY project, whether it's electrical or otherwise, and it isn't the responsibility of those offering guidance to be responsible for some else's stupidity. If someone posted a question about a setup that seemed dangerous, I highly doubt anyone here would remain silent.

Also, electricity has been stigmatized as this unwieldy, unpredictable element that is just waiting at every corner to break out of the junction box and set your whole world aflame. This isn't so. If treated with respect and handled properly, wiring certain things is actually safer than mowing your lawn...

Get a grip dude and worry about your own shit instead of pissing on your neighbors' parade.
 
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