EZ Cloner advice? Looking for surefire success!

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Rockfloatinginspace

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Has anyone really figured out the EZ Cloner? It seems like such a simple tool. But if one thing is slightly off... death. I've heard to use different waters, different root enhancers, etc... But I can't figure out the perfect combination. Right now it's a 30 site running well water with Green Fusion root hormone, with a PH of 5.8-5.9. It's got some CFL's on 24. Water temp is around 75. I can post pics if needed.

Basically, I'm hoping someone has got this thing down to a science. I've had great luck in the past with a 60 site EZ Cloner. But I can't seem to get this one dialed in properly. Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated. Once again, these forums are such a great source of information! Thanks everyone!!
 
medicalsb420

medicalsb420

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sounds like yer barking up the right tree... any specific problem your having? my advise for time tested 100% success rate: make sure sprayers are covering the root zone in spray. use r/o water ph 6. heat mat under the cloner. t5 backed off but present(hanging about 2-4' over the dome.) . Clean sterile cuts to make healthy clones. Have good cloning stock (healthy happy mommas!). when taking cuttings go straight into your gel. never reuse gel - put the amount you need into a tablespoon or cup and discard what you dont use(dont add it pack to gel pack). make sure your air pumps are on. plug it in and go. sounds like from your post you know what your doing, so what i just said is probably obvious; again is there a specific problem your having?
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
ok this is 100% knock out way to use the EZC
PH 5.5
water 72 to 75f
GH maxi grow mix to get 200ppm
root tone the powder type 1tbs per EZC run, just mix it in the water!

some might argue the powder form but this is a knock out way
to get it to work. and its way cheaper than all the over priced rooting formulas outthere.

dont worrie about your water just make sure you have a ph of 5.5
 
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wiseguy316

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hellraizer30 said:
ok this is 100% knock out way to use the EZC
PH 5.5
water 72 to 75f
GH maxi grow mix to get 200ppm
root tone the powder type 1tbs per EZC run, just mix it in the water!

some might argue the powder form but this is a knock out way
to get it to work. and its way cheaper than all the over priced rooting formulas outthere.

dont worrie about your water just make sure you have a ph of 5.5
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clonex is like 17 bucks a qt and only uses 2 oz per gallon, lasts a long time and it works. I am not discounting your method. But which one is really cheaper?
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
root tone in powder form is like 3bucks and will do 4 clone run
maxi grow is 13buck and will do 30 or so clone runs
 
Serapis

Serapis

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I could have written this very same op... 8 days in my new EZC 30 and it looks like possible bacteria issues on the stems.... I even wiped fiskars with rubbing alcohol, used new gel, new inserts.... hell, brand new EZC.... my first run is looking like all death.. after 7 days, some yellowing, two have curled up and died, and some of the stems look sick looking underneath the cover... After two years of failing to clone any other way, I finally broke down and spent almost $300 on an EZC.... again I'm failing... I can't get a fucking cloning break...
 
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wiseguy316

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Serapis said:
I could have written this very same op... 8 days in my new EZC 30 and it looks like possible bacteria issues on the stems.... I even wiped fiskars with rubbing alcohol, used new gel, new inserts.... hell, brand new EZC.... my first run is looking like all death.. after 7 days, some yellowing, two have curled up and died, and some of the stems look sick looking underneath the cover... After two years of failing to clone any other way, I finally broke down and spent almost $300 on an EZC.... again I'm failing... I can't get a fucking cloning break...
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I feel for ya, I had lots of troubles also, I tried every sure fire method to work 8 mos later and no roots, i switch my water for cloning to spring water and have had 100% success ever since. my tap is city water at 240ppm. It was my problem. It's .89 cent a gallon give it a shot, to eliminate one more variable. And best of luck kicking it.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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I've got an expensive water filtration and R/O system. The ppm in it is 000. The instructions recommend tap or RO if tap ppm is too high... my tap ppm is almost 400. Thanks for the advice, but I'm betting my problem is elsewhere...

wiseguy316 said:
I feel for ya, I had lots of troubles also, I tried every sure fire method to work 8 mos later and no roots, i switch my water for cloning to spring water and have had 100% success ever since. my tap is city water at 240ppm. It was my problem. It's .89 cent a gallon give it a shot, to eliminate one more variable. And best of luck kicking it.
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wiseguy316

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my common variable was the water not the techniques, but again for the price what will it hurt to try it. best of luck, i know it is frustrating, you will get it.
 
Serapis

Serapis

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It won't hurt to try it, I'm just not sure what is in spring water that's going to change my luck? Is my $300 Reef Master RO system a waste of money?

wiseguy316 said:
my common variable was the water not the techniques, but again for the price what will it hurt to try it. best of luck, i know it is frustrating, you will get it.
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wiseguy316

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Serapis said:
It won't hurt to try it, I'm just not sure what is in spring water that's going to change my luck? Is my $300 Reef Master RO system a waste of money?
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No, i bet it is great for the rest of your plants, better than 400ppm(just maybe not for cloning). My point is you have to change one thing at a time if what you doing is not working in order to figure it out.
 
Flo Grow

Flo Grow

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Macro nutes cal/mag are pretty much none present in R/O water too.

When and where you take clones has a HUGE role in root formation ?
Also, is anyone splitting or shaving the stem to expose the Cambium layer in the stems ?
That is the ONLY place root development takes place !!
Clones should be taken from the bottom of the plant and not the top.
Older growth hormones stay at the bottom while the younger/newer hormones exist at the top.
That's why the plants get thicker from the bottom up and not the top down.
The older hormones also aid in roots forming in clones.
Too much Nitrogen, which exist during Veg, inhibits root formation as well.
So flush for a day or 2 during veg, then take clones OR take them within the 1st week or 2 of bloom since more PK is available than Nitrogen.
Phosphorous aids in root formation by the way.

Just my advice and sciences fact.
 
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Rockfloatinginspace

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The clones were all taken from the bottoms of plants. All were cut at 45 degree angles, then split and scored, then dipped in Clonex gel, and finally put into the cloner. The clones in the photo have been in for almost 2 weeks. I've also posted a photo of the bottoms. The brownish section is what was split and scored. I was also thinking of cutting this section of at a 45 and re-dipping them to give them another shot. But I'm not sure if it will help or hurt the situation.

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Once again, any input would be great. Two of them are Barney's Tangerine Dream, and I'd hate to lose them. Thanks everyone!!
 
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joe macclennan

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i run ro water in my stinkbud ez. i like to keep my ph around 5.7-6.0. no gels powders or bullshit.the only thing i add to my rez. in cloning is h2o2 if i suspect any funk going on. i like al b. fucts instructions on getting clones to root. his advice is geared towards rockwool but the same principles apply to aero. i am running my pumps 40 seconds on, 6 1/2 minutes off. the temps in my ez run between 65-75 degrees F. sometimes i get roots in as little as 5 days but i recently got some grandfather kush that is taking like two weeks to root.
i would suggest changing the water and adding some h2o2
my 2 cents
joe
 
Jumbo

Jumbo

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Hi,

Serapis stated: "8 days in my new EZC 30 and it looks like possible bacteria issues on the stems.... I even wiped fiskars with rubbing alcohol, used new gel, new inserts ..."

"joe macclennan" is probably right. OK, so why not try adding 1TBS. of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide per gallon to your EZCloner water? It would kill bacteria without adversely affecting the root growth. Just an idea. I've even heard of using very diluted chlorine bleach for killing germs in hydro reservoirs, but I don't have any solid info. on this. If you're desperate enough, try the 3% H2O2, it might do the trick.

Good Luck!
Jumbo
 
fatality

fatality

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dude, first thing wrong, quit using that damn well water...... use aquafina, i mean it, when you going to make a new batch of babies go out and buy a fuckin case of aquafina. use only aquafina. keep them water temps in check...... i swear by aquafina, i too have well water and ran into this same problem. after using aquafina..... 100% success rate always in 7-8 days ....... p.s. i keep my water temps about 78F ...... i refuse to buy a better heater when i can just use a spare fishtank heater...... keep that water fuckin sparkly clean and them lil whores will pop roots quick..... if you dont alrdy, slightly scratch the sides of the bottom of the cuttings with your razorblade to allow for a massive root gain in minimal time.... peace
 
jhod58vw

jhod58vw

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im using a ez cloner look alike that i built come check out my page using 6.3ph water ro ez cloner hormone not really having any issues i try to keep my water to around 75 lost afew due to myself for getting to plug the pump back in
 
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Mr.Therapy Man 2

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Are you cutting those clones below an internode,thats where they pop roots from.My power cloner is allways trying to pick up some kind of bacteria or fungus.Im just use my dome and plugs and usually get about 90 to 100%
 
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