F%CK! After the spidi-mite, I find a GNAT. what a wonderful day.

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BoXofStankay

Guest
Well shit. I know how to treat these guys, but I'm just going to re pot into new soil. This soil is seemingly the culprit to my wonderful pack of pest.

they are 6 days old and they are a 12/12 grow.

Will repotting now, most likely cause a hermi?

For reference, Skunk#1 is the strain
 

farel2

Well-Known Member
Well shit. I know how to treat these guys, but I'm just going to re pot into new soil. This soil is seemingly the culprit to my wonderful pack of pest.

they are 6 days old and they are a 12/12 grow.

Will repotting now, most likely cause a hermi?

For reference, Skunk#1 is the strain
I would say that the sooner the better. You could go back to veg state at this point still with little notice of any change. There will obviously be a bit of stress like any transplant but id say to have clean soil during flowering is a little important lol bug free helps too. Just make sure the rest of your conditions are ideal and I could not see it turning into a hermie, so early into 12/12.

Any other thoughts?? I dont want to lead this person the wrong way and be the cause of a Hermie lol

Hope this helps!
 

Indivine

Member
if you ain't gone through all that yet...
i had a serious fungus gnat problem, i did a search and found this beautiful fix. no more little bugs. and it was too easy. not even one little sucker on my potatoes (you'll find out) anymore, where there was a half dozen prior. AWSOME. had to share it. maybe now it can grow, sheesh.

Fungus Gnat:

Summary: A subtly dangerous pest that can attack your plants, causing serious, permanent damage with few external symptoms!
Scientific name: Bradysia coprophila (family Sciaridae, order Diptera)
Size: 3-4mm (1/8")
Description: Slender, grey or black body; one pair of clear, unveined wings. Long legs and a tendency to fly aimlessly around, alighting occasionally on the leaves of plants.

Like many insects, fungus gnats develop through metamorphosis. They start out as larvae in the top layers of soil, develop into pupae and thence into the winged, flying adult. Total developmental time to adulthood is 2-4 weeks. During the larval stage they feed on fungi in the soil as well as decaying organic matter and plant roots. Once they reach adulthood, fungus gnats typically last just long enough to seed a new generation of larvae.

Why should I care?

These little suckers are not your friends. If you grow houseplants or any kind of potted plant, fungus gnats can become a major problem very quickly. This is because the larvae, when they run out of fungus in the soil, will start to nibble at your plants' roots! While it would take a very large developing population of gnat larvae to completely destroy a plant in this way, the gnats' feasting can seriously stunt your plant's growth, causing discoloration in the foliage and malformed branches and limbs. The larvae may also aid in the spread of plant diseases with scary-sounding names, such as: Pythium, Verticillium, Cylindrocladium, and Scelerotinia.

Fungus gnats are particularly troublesome because the larvae prefer an organic growth medium. They can actually cause more harm to potted plants grown in sterilized potting soil than to plants grown in the ground! They also thrive in moist environments, meaning that overwatered houseplants are a prime breeding ground.

Marijuana cultivators particularly need to be on the lookout for fungus gnats, as the larvae, in addition to attacking the roots of your precious ganja plants, will leave behind casings that quickly ruin the drainage properties of your soil. Cannabis requires good drainage and a steady but small supply of water, so an overwatered marijuana plant that falls victim to a fungus gnat colony has two strikes against it. If an infestation occurs during the flowering stage of the plant's growth, it could seriously reduce yield.

How do I detect them?

Like most tiny flying critters, fungus gnats have an irrational attraction to the color yellow. Purchase some yellow sticky cards from a garden center; yellow sticky tape works equally well. Place the sticky cards near your plants for a few days and observe what gets caught on it. If you see more than a few gnats, there are most likely larvae in your soil.

Once you've spotted a likely infestation, cut a slice of potato of about one square inch, and 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick. Place it on the soil in your plant's pot and wait 4-8 hours. Fungus gnat larvae really love a good snack of potato. Remove the potato and count the number of larvae that have moved onto it; this will give you a good idea of how big an infestation you're dealing with.

How do I get rid of them?

Getting rid of the adults is a snap: simply give them a sticky yellow surface to land on, and within a few days you'll have enough dead adults to make a tasty dinner of gnat casserole (YMMV). The larvae are a bit trickier. The first step toward getting rid of them is to starve your plant of water for a few days, letting the top layers of soil dry completely. Larvae cannot develop in dry soil, though they can survive a drought by suspending their development. Don't worry about killing your plant; it takes serious dedication to kill most houseplants from underwatering, while overwatering a plant can kill it very quickly.

Once the soil is dry, mix 1 part hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) solution with 4 parts water. Use 3% solution, which you can find in any drug store or in the hygiene/medicine aisle of a chain grocery store. You can use a stronger solution if you change the water mixture appropriately, and don't be too concerned with proportions; it would take a very high concentration of H2O2 to hurt your plants. Just make sure you buy pure H2O2 with no chemical additives! Hydrogen peroxide is often sold as a topical disinfectant, and things that are good for your wounds may not be so healthy for your plants.

Water your plants as you normally would, using the hydrogen peroxide solution and taking care to get good coverage of the entire top layer of soil. Use a spray bottle if desired. The soil will fizz for a few minutes after application; this is natural. The gnat larvae die on contact with the H2O2. After a few minutes the fizzing stops and the H2O2 breaks down into oxygen molecules (which your plants don't mind) and water molecules (which your plants love).

Congratulations! You've just successfully treated your fungus gnat infestation. Monitor the gnat population for a few days with sticky cards, in order to make sure you've got them all. Make sure not to overwater, and consider sometimes adding a little hydrogen peroxide to your daily waterings--in my experience, the plants react well to this little treat. Watch your plants grow big and strong and enjoy the fruits of your labors, whether they be flowers, vegetables, literal fruits, or big sticky nugs of homegrown chronic.
 

Indivine

Member
ok. i did more searching. i punched in h2o2 insects and found this.... unbelieveable.



He unabashedly begins his stories in newspapers, magazines and online by proclaiming, 'This will be the most phenomenal article you will ever read'. He claims to have cured his own cancer, to have removed his own warts and to be the most robust 82-year-old on the planet ever since he discovered the miracle solution known as hydrogen peroxide.
Bill Munro immediately grabbed my attention with a story titled 'Gardening with H2O2' in Acres U.S.A., the highly respected farming journal from Austin, Texas. In 13 years of applying hydrogen peroxide to his gardens, Munro said he has experienced better yields, faster seed germination and far fewer insect infestations.
'Try it,' he said during our phone interview from his home in Michigan. 'The peroxide will change the way you garden forever. If you let it, it will even change your life.'
If you type the phrase 'Bill Munro peroxide' into Google on the Internet, you'll quickly come up with all sorts of articles that talk about his experiences curing his cancer by inhaling hydrogen peroxide several times daily. He cites a book titled Hydrogen Peroxide: The Medical Miracle by Dr. William Campbell Douglas, and offers detailed instructions for using this commonly available liquid to improve your health. Much of the traditional medical community doesn't seem to put much stock in hydrogen peroxide as a health aid except as an antiseptic, but it is known that white blood cells do produce small amounts of hydrogen peroxide in our bodies to help fight infection and disease. Even the skeptics say inhaling hydrogen peroxide probably won't hurt you if you decide to give it a try. For our purposes, however, we were most interested in Munro’s gardening claims, all of which appear to be true.
Extra Oxygen Makes Magic


Readily available in drugstores and supermarkets in familiar brown bottles that block light, hydrogen peroxide is simply water (H2O) with an extra oxygen molecule that is loosely attached to form H2O2. That extra oxygen is highly unstable in the solution and vaporizes easily upon contact with other substances, thereby accounting for the fizzing that occurs whenever hydrogen peroxide touches your skin. The 3 percent solution most commonly sold in stores is widely used to clean cuts and abrasions in pets and humans, and for numerous other cleaning and sterilization applications around the home. Many people use H2O2 as an environmentally friendly alternative to chlorine in pools and, especially, hot tubs.
That same oxidation action that keeps water clean apparently also has a positive impact in horticulture. Numerous hydrogen peroxide manufacturers recommend soaking seeds in H2O2 prior to planting to speed germination rates. Watering with hydrogen peroxide is also recommended to help keep fungal and bacterial diseases at bay. Most instructions call for diluting the 3 percent solution to a few tablespoons per quart of water prior to soaking your seeds or spraying your plants.
Munoz’s instructions are quite different. He uses an 8 percent solution, which he produces by diluting the 40 percent solution that he purchases at hair-salon supply stores.
'This was just trial-and-error on my part', he said. 'Having no prior knowledge of what strength to use, I started my experiments with 8 percent and the plants didn't die. I've stuck with the 8 percent ever since. At some percentage, I'm sure, the peroxide could burn the plants, but I can assure you that at 8 percent it doesn't'.
Munro said he soaks many seeds in peroxide prior to planting and has found germination rates to be as much as 50 percent faster. Depending on the seeds, he'll soak them anywhere from a few hours to overnight. He said he sprays all seedling roots and their planting holes, and also sprays all trees, shrubs and his lawn. He said his only fertilizer is the ash from his wood stove, and his water is from his own well.
The seed soaking doesn't work for everything , especially beans, but he said it works really well for potatoes, corn, squash, cucumbers and radishes.
'I've got one of the best gardens around', he said. 'You can ask anyone who has seen it'.
Munro has plenty of fans, including Acres U.S.A. founder Charles Walters and online journalist Joyce Morrison, author of the web site NewsWithViews.com.
'Although we have never met in person, Bill Munro and I have talked over the phone and e-mailed for several years, and I have never known Bill to tell me anything that was not well-researched,' Morrison said.
Recent experiments conducted in Australia also support some of Munro’s theories about hydrogen peroxide. Researchers reportedly included peroxide in the drip-irrigation systems for crops of zucchini, which in turn produced 29 percent more fruits weighing 25 percent more than the fruits produced without hydrogen peroxide treatment. Yields of soybean pods increased 82 to 96 percent compared to crops that were not treated with hydrogen peroxide.
Fewer Insects in the Garden


Yields and germination rates aside, Munro’s most compelling claim about hydrogen peroxide in the garden concerns insect infestations.
'I started spraying just about everything that was green in my yard with the peroxide, and the results were a huge surprise to my wife and me,' said Munro. 'We had no mosquitoes or other flying bugs in our yard. There were a few ladybugs, but they were few and far between. I don't think the peroxide did any harm to the ladybugs, but since there are so few other insects for them to eat, the ladybugs just don't come around.'
According to Rene Larose, a retired microbiologist from Manchester, Conn., hydrogen peroxide does reduce insect populations ' not by eliminating adult insects, but by oxidizing and killing their eggs and larvae.' Larose developed and owns U.S. patent 6455075, defined as 'a method for control of insects on plant tissue, which includes applying a solution that includes hydrogen peroxide to the plant tissue.'
The hydrogen peroxide in Larose’s formulations has a concentration of 0.05 to 3 percent and includes other proprietary ingredients such as acetic acid and phosphoric acid. Where Has This Been All Our Lives?


The question, obviously, is that if a product as common as hydrogen peroxide offers so many benefits in the garden, why hasn't everyone been utilizing it for years?
'That’s what we want to know,' said Larose, with a laugh. 'I can tell you that the EPA loves us because the products are 100 percent, absolutely safe alternatives. I can tell you that science gives you perfectly rational explanations for how this works. But I can also tell you that the chemical companies don't like this because of course it cuts into what they're doing. The universities don't like this because they didn't develop the concept.'
Munro agrees. He theorizes that in a world driven by profit, the economic powers have little motivation to promote something as inexpensive and commonplace as hydrogen peroxide.
It is important to use hydrogen peroxide with caution, testing it on limited crops prior to spraying the entire yard and garden, and to only use pure H2O2 or 'food grade' formulations. Some brands of peroxide may contain harmful byproducts.
Another important consideration is dilution of the peroxide when the percentage is higher than 8 percent. Concentrated peroxide of 35 or 40 percent is highly corrosive and would certainly be harmful to plants and soil.
'Anyone ought to see what works for him or her,' said Munro, the outspoken octogenarian whose instructions can be found all over the Internet. 'I think people need to see that this works for themselves.'
www.pplants.com
Article Source: articlerich.com
 

DragonPhoenix

Well-Known Member
ok. i did more searching. i punched in h2o2 insects and found this.... unbelieveable.



He unabashedly begins his stories in newspapers, magazines and online by proclaiming, 'This will be the most phenomenal article you will ever read'. He claims to have cured his own cancer, to have removed his own warts and to be the most robust 82-year-old on the planet ever since he discovered the miracle solution known as hydrogen peroxide.
Bill Munro immediately grabbed my attention with a story titled 'Gardening with H2O2' in Acres U.S.A., the highly respected farming journal from Austin, Texas. In 13 years of applying hydrogen peroxide to his gardens, Munro said he has experienced better yields, faster seed germination and far fewer insect infestations.
'Try it,' he said during our phone interview from his home in Michigan. 'The peroxide will change the way you garden forever. If you let it, it will even change your life.'
If you type the phrase 'Bill Munro peroxide' into Google on the Internet, you'll quickly come up with all sorts of articles that talk about his experiences curing his cancer by inhaling hydrogen peroxide several times daily. He cites a book titled Hydrogen Peroxide: The Medical Miracle by Dr. William Campbell Douglas, and offers detailed instructions for using this commonly available liquid to improve your health. Much of the traditional medical community doesn't seem to put much stock in hydrogen peroxide as a health aid except as an antiseptic, but it is known that white blood cells do produce small amounts of hydrogen peroxide in our bodies to help fight infection and disease. Even the skeptics say inhaling hydrogen peroxide probably won't hurt you if you decide to give it a try. For our purposes, however, we were most interested in Munro’s gardening claims, all of which appear to be true.
Extra Oxygen Makes Magic


Readily available in drugstores and supermarkets in familiar brown bottles that block light, hydrogen peroxide is simply water (H2O) with an extra oxygen molecule that is loosely attached to form H2O2. That extra oxygen is highly unstable in the solution and vaporizes easily upon contact with other substances, thereby accounting for the fizzing that occurs whenever hydrogen peroxide touches your skin. The 3 percent solution most commonly sold in stores is widely used to clean cuts and abrasions in pets and humans, and for numerous other cleaning and sterilization applications around the home. Many people use H2O2 as an environmentally friendly alternative to chlorine in pools and, especially, hot tubs.
That same oxidation action that keeps water clean apparently also has a positive impact in horticulture. Numerous hydrogen peroxide manufacturers recommend soaking seeds in H2O2 prior to planting to speed germination rates. Watering with hydrogen peroxide is also recommended to help keep fungal and bacterial diseases at bay. Most instructions call for diluting the 3 percent solution to a few tablespoons per quart of water prior to soaking your seeds or spraying your plants.
Munoz’s instructions are quite different. He uses an 8 percent solution, which he produces by diluting the 40 percent solution that he purchases at hair-salon supply stores.
'This was just trial-and-error on my part', he said. 'Having no prior knowledge of what strength to use, I started my experiments with 8 percent and the plants didn't die. I've stuck with the 8 percent ever since. At some percentage, I'm sure, the peroxide could burn the plants, but I can assure you that at 8 percent it doesn't'.
Munro said he soaks many seeds in peroxide prior to planting and has found germination rates to be as much as 50 percent faster. Depending on the seeds, he'll soak them anywhere from a few hours to overnight. He said he sprays all seedling roots and their planting holes, and also sprays all trees, shrubs and his lawn. He said his only fertilizer is the ash from his wood stove, and his water is from his own well.
The seed soaking doesn't work for everything , especially beans, but he said it works really well for potatoes, corn, squash, cucumbers and radishes.
'I've got one of the best gardens around', he said. 'You can ask anyone who has seen it'.
Munro has plenty of fans, including Acres U.S.A. founder Charles Walters and online journalist Joyce Morrison, author of the web site NewsWithViews.com.
'Although we have never met in person, Bill Munro and I have talked over the phone and e-mailed for several years, and I have never known Bill to tell me anything that was not well-researched,' Morrison said.
Recent experiments conducted in Australia also support some of Munro’s theories about hydrogen peroxide. Researchers reportedly included peroxide in the drip-irrigation systems for crops of zucchini, which in turn produced 29 percent more fruits weighing 25 percent more than the fruits produced without hydrogen peroxide treatment. Yields of soybean pods increased 82 to 96 percent compared to crops that were not treated with hydrogen peroxide.
Fewer Insects in the Garden


Yields and germination rates aside, Munro’s most compelling claim about hydrogen peroxide in the garden concerns insect infestations.
'I started spraying just about everything that was green in my yard with the peroxide, and the results were a huge surprise to my wife and me,' said Munro. 'We had no mosquitoes or other flying bugs in our yard. There were a few ladybugs, but they were few and far between. I don't think the peroxide did any harm to the ladybugs, but since there are so few other insects for them to eat, the ladybugs just don't come around.'
According to Rene Larose, a retired microbiologist from Manchester, Conn., hydrogen peroxide does reduce insect populations ' not by eliminating adult insects, but by oxidizing and killing their eggs and larvae.' Larose developed and owns U.S. patent 6455075, defined as 'a method for control of insects on plant tissue, which includes applying a solution that includes hydrogen peroxide to the plant tissue.'
The hydrogen peroxide in Larose’s formulations has a concentration of 0.05 to 3 percent and includes other proprietary ingredients such as acetic acid and phosphoric acid. Where Has This Been All Our Lives?


The question, obviously, is that if a product as common as hydrogen peroxide offers so many benefits in the garden, why hasn't everyone been utilizing it for years?
'That’s what we want to know,' said Larose, with a laugh. 'I can tell you that the EPA loves us because the products are 100 percent, absolutely safe alternatives. I can tell you that science gives you perfectly rational explanations for how this works. But I can also tell you that the chemical companies don't like this because of course it cuts into what they're doing. The universities don't like this because they didn't develop the concept.'
Munro agrees. He theorizes that in a world driven by profit, the economic powers have little motivation to promote something as inexpensive and commonplace as hydrogen peroxide.
It is important to use hydrogen peroxide with caution, testing it on limited crops prior to spraying the entire yard and garden, and to only use pure H2O2 or 'food grade' formulations. Some brands of peroxide may contain harmful byproducts.
Another important consideration is dilution of the peroxide when the percentage is higher than 8 percent. Concentrated peroxide of 35 or 40 percent is highly corrosive and would certainly be harmful to plants and soil.
'Anyone ought to see what works for him or her,' said Munro, the outspoken octogenarian whose instructions can be found all over the Internet. 'I think people need to see that this works for themselves.'
www.pplants.com
Article Source: articlerich.com

Just a bit of info for all you growers out there. It is my understanding that H2O2 will kill off any beneficial bacteria you have if you are growing organically.

This means you should only be using H2O2 if you are using chemical fertilizers.

Fungas gnats are not that big of a deal. Let the soil dry out some, use the sticky yellow cards, and you can also put a layer of perlite on top of the soil to help.

DP
 

Tosh

Member
Just a bit of info for all you growers out there. It is my understanding that H2O2 will kill off any beneficial bacteria you have if you are growing organically.

This means you should only be using H2O2 if you are using chemical fertilizers.

Fungas gnats are not that big of a deal. Let the soil dry out some, use the sticky yellow cards, and you can also put a layer of perlite on top of the soil to help.

DP
Playground sand, 5 bucks for a 50 lb. bag at ace hardware. Its washed dried and sterilized. Put a layer on top of your soil. The sand is to heavy for those little bastards to tunnel through. I just did this Four days ago and have no seen one sense. there were hundreds.
 
This has been my problem sense day one or very close to it! They had to come in my soil. I will try all these ideas. They have been driving me crazy! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

I will let you know how I make out.
 

GrowTech

stays relevant.
You really don't need to go through all of that trouble for gnats. It's simple. Pour a half inch to an inch of sand on top of your soil, and let your pot dry for about a week. Bam, done.
 
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