F*CK THE POLICE!!!

Rob Roy · Oct 28, 2015

The_Herban_Legend said:
These guys are accusing you of being a pedophile for banging a 15 year old at the age of 13?

Well, to be honest at least one of them (our favorite Uncle) seems jealous since he though the height of teenage fun was shitting on the floor of a public restroom at 17, and the other one is an avowed prohibitionist who proposes laws that make selling weed a criminal offense. So go easy on them, they might be in institutions for all we know.

abandonconflict · Oct 28, 2015

Rob Roy said:
Do you oppose a free market wherein the participants can trade in things that they have decided on without intervention by an unwanted third party ?

No. I don't think anybody does. I said I oppose capitalism, which is private ownership of economic infrastructure and resources.

spandy · Oct 28, 2015

ChesusRice said:
I think they need to take cops out of our schools. They violate our kids rights everyday.
This cop was the school resource officer there. He should of called for back up.
Then had all the kids leave the room

That action would of got little miss Bitch pants out of the chair. If not they could of pried her out by force or taded her.

I agree, replace them with armed veterans.

Rob Roy · Oct 28, 2015

abandonconflict said:
13 year old children do not have the wherewithal to make informed consent.

Actually some 13 year olds have held jobs and have helped support themselves, which is more than some people much older do, who subsist off the labor of people that HAVEN'T consented to a forcible extraction of their labor. Just saying.

Are you saying at 13 I was raped by a 15 year old...oh my!! ...and why the fuck are we talking about this? Is it so you don't have to answer questions about what property is and whether or not people can own property ?

Rob Roy · Oct 28, 2015

abandonconflict said:
No. I don't think anybody does. I said I oppose capitalism, which is private ownership of economic infrastructure and resources.

If a person makes a spear did he make it from thin air or did he use resources to do it?

Does he own the spear or not ? The one that was made from natural resources?

abandonconflict · Oct 28, 2015

Rob Roy said:
Actually some 13 year olds have held jobs and have helped support themselves, which is more than some people much older do, who subsist off the labor of people that HAVEN'T consented to a forcible extraction of their labor. Just saying.

Are you saying at 13 I was raped by a 15 year old...oh my!! ...and why the fuck are we talking about this? Is it so you don't have to answer questions about what property is and whether or not people can own property ?

We get it, you think 13 year old children have the wherewithal to make informed consent to sexual relations.

abandonconflict · Oct 28, 2015

Rob Roy said:
If a person makes a spear did he make it from thin air or did he use resources to do it?

Does he own the spear or not ? The one that was made from natural resources?

If a person claims a piece of earth does he then own exclusive deed to it which can be sold or bequeathed, or does that deed come from gov't?

Rob Roy · Oct 28, 2015

abandonconflict said:
We get it, you think 13 year old children have the wherewithal to make informed consent to sexual relations.

No. I don't view people like you do collectivist. I'd agree many, perhaps even most do not have the wherewithal. That doesn't mean that none do though, does it?

A person who can consent, can consent. A person incapable cannot. I'd also say, the likelihood a person can consent is usually higher when that individual gets older. Yet none of that precludes that a person of 13, somewhere, cannot have the wherewithal.

You should stop lumping everyone into things like that, it almost sounds racist.

Also, you are dancing away from the questions I've asked. Can the person who used natural resources to fashion a spear, then be said to own natural resources ?

I know you'd rather obfuscate, does that mean you concede that some natural resources can be owned?

Rob Roy · Oct 28, 2015

abandonconflict said:
If a person claims a piece of earth does he then own exclusive deed to it which can be sold or bequeathed, or does that deed come from gov't?

Every person has to exist SOMEWHERE don't they?

If you are occupying a piece of the earth, which everyone alive does, would you then say if you improve that piece of earth you own the fruit of it? If you build a dwelling there, don't you own that dwelling?

Also, does Ogg own the spear he fashioned from natural resources?

abandonconflict · Oct 28, 2015

Rob Roy said:
Every person has to exist SOMEWHERE don't they?

If you are occupying a piece of the earth, which everyone alive does, would you then say if you improve that piece of earth you own the fruit of it? If you build a dwelling there, don't you own that dwelling?

Also, does Ogg own the spear he fashioned from natural resources?

You didn't answer my question, you just side stepped it and asked a stupid question about a hypothetical caveman. Yes, you can make a spear and own it in most cases in our society. You wanted to talk about property and I asked you a question. Here, I'll repeat it.

If a person claims a piece of earth does he then own exclusive deed to it which can be sold or bequeathed, or does that deed come from gov't?

Rob Roy · Oct 28, 2015

abandonconflict said:
You didn't answer my question, you just side stepped it and asked a stupid question about a hypothetical caveman. Yes, you can make a spear and own it. You wanted to talk about property and I asked you a question. Here, I'll repeat it.

If a person claims a piece of earth does he then own exclusive deed to it which can be sold or bequeathed, or does that deed come from gov't?

Okay, You, today, make a spear from natural resources which were previously unused and unclaimed. Haven't you then claimed ownership of the spear which is composed of natural resources? You said people can't own natural resources and you implied that was an absolute. Is it ?

A person can claim ownership of something, but if he didn't acquire it in an unowned / unoccupied state or in a consensual exchange his ownership could be in question, because it would already be owned by somebody else. Also the intrusion of government doesn't mean it is necessary for ownership to take place.

As I've stated before the intrusion of government usually lessens an ownership right of a person.

abandonconflict · Oct 28, 2015

Rob Roy said:
Okay, You, today, make a spear from natural resources which were previously unused and unclaimed. Haven't you then claimed ownership of the spear which is composed of natural resources? You said people can't own natural resources and you implied that was an absolute. Is it ?

A person can claim ownership of something, but if he didn't acquire it in an unowned / unoccupied state or in a consensual exchange his ownership could be in question, because it would already be owned by somebody else. Also the intrusion of government doesn't mean it is necessary for ownership to take place.

As I've stated before the intrusion of government usually lessens an ownership right of a person.

Yet again, you did not answer my question.

If a person claims a piece of earth does he then own exclusive deed to it which can be sold or bequeathed, or does that deed come from gov't?

Darth Vapour · Oct 28, 2015

The_Herban_Legend said:
Excuse me, monkey? Where do you reside that hate speech like this, is accepted? This young girl has alot to look forward to. She is going to get an excellent lawyer that won't charge a penny until that settlement check comes in. You can count on that!

although it looks bad what the cop did actually she has nothing to look forward for if you really think about it from watching the news tonight they stated she has been a trouble maker and teachers and some students are on the cops side
so what does this mean ??? ask your self if you been busted for armed robbery or fraud whats the chances your here say mean anything
once they pull up all her troubles she has caused in school you can have 100 of the best lawyers in the world means shit witness are on the cops side students are on the cops side who you think is going to win ???
A bully is a bully a trouble maker is a trouble maker
Ask your self even why the cop was there just to say hello ????

Darth Vapour · Oct 28, 2015

He was there to get rid of a problem end of story cop lost his job for going over the line of duty on the attack like chief said throwing person is not on there training
when or if this even makes it to court which i think will not ..
the judge will rule the cop incured punishment by losing his job and so life will go on now do not be upset about that thats how the system works ..
whats the lawyer going to sue the city ?? or school ??? or the tax payor or wasted tax payors money for a losing cause
Cop was called there for a reason to get rid of a trouble maker YOU GET THAT TROUBLE MAKER
maybe other students might step up n say she was a bully and god forbid you know how what happens to bullies

Harrekin · Oct 28, 2015

Darth Vapour said:
He was there to get rid of a problem end of story cop lost his job for going over the line of duty on the attack like chief said throwing person is not on there training
when or if this even makes it to court which i think will not ..
the judge will rule the cop incured punishment by losing his job and so life will go on now do not be upset about that thats how the system works ..
whats the lawyer going to sue the city ?? or school ??? or the tax payor or wasted tax payors money for a losing cause
Cop was called there for a reason to get rid of a trouble maker YOU GET THAT TROUBLE MAKER
maybe other students might step up n say she was a bully and god forbid you know how what happens to bullies

So what'd she do?

Smoke some devils weed?

ChesusRice · Oct 28, 2015

Darth Vapour said:
He was there to get rid of a problem end of story cop lost his job for going over the line of duty on the attack like chief said throwing person is not on there training
when or if this even makes it to court which i think will not ..
the judge will rule the cop incured punishment by losing his job and so life will go on now do not be upset about that thats how the system works ..
whats the lawyer going to sue the city ?? or school ??? or the tax payor or wasted tax payors money for a losing cause
Cop was called there for a reason to get rid of a trouble maker YOU GET THAT TROUBLE MAKER
maybe other students might step up n say she was a bully and god forbid you know how what happens to bullies

He would of been better off tasing her.
Or calling for back up

Harrekin · Oct 28, 2015

ChesusRice said:
He would of been better off tasing her.
Or calling for back up

She's black, he probably could've just shot her.

Darth Vapour · Oct 28, 2015

Harrekin said:
So what'd she do?

Smoke some devils weed?

One has to ask that she must of done something to bring a police officer into a class room , maybe threaten someone ??? sure was not from spitting spit balls lol
cmon think about it when a cop comes to a scene its for a reason and for a cop being dispatched to there means it must of been something rather important dont you think ???

Harrekin · Oct 28, 2015

Darth Vapour said:
One has to ask that she must of done something to bring a police officer into a class room , maybe threaten someone ??? sure was not from spitting spit balls lol
cmon think about it when a cop comes to a scene its for a reason and for a cop being dispatched to there means it must of been something rather important dont you think ???

So you agree with the cop automatically without even knowning what it is alleged she did wrong?

Fuck me sideways...

ChesusRice · Oct 28, 2015

Harrekin said:
She's black, he probably could've just shot her.

There was nothing racist about this incident or cop

F*CK THE POLICE!!!

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