Creature1969
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Heh! I put my fabric pots in oil drain pans and just run the wire to the lip of the pan. Adjustments made easy!
Fabric pots v normal plastic
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since1991
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The GoPro NX Level saucer risers fit the standard plastic oil pan from walmart/auto zone/home depot perfectly. The 14" riser that is. Drill a half inch hole with a step drill bit...half inch rubber grommet seal...half inch barbed tees , couplers, elbows and half inch hydroponic hose and plumb all the oil pans together for the lowest clearance drain to waste automation your going to get. Provided a simple drip manifold up top. Way lower than any tray/table setup. With a 2 or 3 gallon fabric root pruning pot up top with a dripper or 2....its one foot exactly from oil pan bottom to top lip of pot. Perfect for all but the lowest height growrooms. If anyone knows of full drip to drain automation thats any lower...iam all ears. Because half way automation (drip up top/manual shop vac by hand runoff from saucers) sucks balls.
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hydra-glide
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I like the fabric pots. Not SmartPots though with the handles that get in the way of watering. I used to use 7-gal. fabric pots, next run I'm using 3-gallon fabric pots, after letting the roots mass in 1-gal. plastic pots for 30-days, then give them another 10-days to veg in their new 3-gallon fabric pots, then on to 12/12 light cycle and flower until chop time.Note: On the advice of HydroJoe, I'm putting the plants in total darkness for 24-hrs. on their last full-day growing on earth, as we know it, then chopping in early morning, with a Tiger-Jaw limb lopper at the trunk base, before the nutrients can run up the trunk to save the flowers (it thinks). Outta mah' way.....I'm growing HE'YA'.
Quick snip and flipped to hanging upside down whilst I remove individual branches from the main trunk. Tiger-Jaw is the strongest ratchet lopper in the USA. Tell 'em Kirk sent youse. There has been nothing like this tool since 9/11/2001
http://www.staffent.com/t2-telescopic-one-touch-handle-ratchet-tree-loppers/
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Cx2H
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I used to do 72 hours of dark pre chop. Now we just catch them before lights come on to avoid loading. Why no 7 gallon anymore?
chemphlegm
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my bags added plenty of RH to my rooms. Its costly to manage that.
My bags were always heavy at the bottom(octopots) and dirty all the way up.
they were difficult to move, empty, clean, and dried up hard too.
I love me five gallon buckets again
My bags were always heavy at the bottom(octopots) and dirty all the way up.
they were difficult to move, empty, clean, and dried up hard too.
I love me five gallon buckets again
Dr. Who
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BS is the correct term for "smart pots" as they are NOT!
I tested these things for the company before they came out. NONE of my comments are used by the company.
They concentrate the rootball into the center of the pot. They leave like an inch of unused layer around the pot. This makes for a problem called the umbrella effect.
Water and feed simply runs off the rootball and runs right out of the sides and bottom. This runoff has now picked up other "salts" if you will and it would be better to not pour it back into the pot till it stays.
Many simply feed a larger amount of mix.
What has this done?
It creates waste and added cost!
I watered and watered, thought I have gotten good absorbance.....I cut a plant down and cut the rootball in half. The core was dry as a dessert breeze even though I had watered it to see.
They dry out quicker making you use more - here's that waste again.
What about the nutrition in all those cubic inch's of space the roots won't grow in? MORE WASTE...
As you water, the O2 is pulled into the soil and you should be using fresh drawn water or water that's stored in a bubbled tank if it's RO'ed. Yep. Just like in a hydro res. There's plenty of O2 in bubbled water.
Water that gets set out looses it's dissolved O2 quickly.
Fabric pots suck in my book. BIG TIME
1991 dug up this dead, rotting thread - Wish it could be buried again....This topic is dead too!
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Dr. Who
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Extended darkness before harvest is a myth....Oh! wrong thread - lol
nfhiggs
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LOL - and I sure ain't spending a hundred bucks to prevent the "nutrients from running up the trunk to save the flowers".
hydra-glide
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I'm doing a comparison taste n' buzz test. One SFV that's been finished with Heavy-16 (soluble potash) and one SFV that's been getting nutes and budswel and HumboldtSnowUltra regularly.
FYI: No grow is the same. Everybody has to tweak their space to them and their plants liking. That being said, Tent People should never heavy-16 or "finish", flush, their plants, because the tent lighting doesn't hardened the interior or side-growing buds. If you finish with 15 mls. of heavy-16 in three separate watering's (hydroJoes directions and personal practice), and then chop the entire plant(s), you'll be dealing with cleaning mushy, gummy, bottom-buds that aren't ready. A real mess.
I've had to cut the hardened buds off my flushed-plant every other day, trim the water-leaf groups immediately, because it's easier to dig to the base of the leaf-stem and nip it then than later, Andy.
I'm probably not finishing any more of my plants or keeping it in the dark for 24 full hrs, unless having done so creates a fantastic surge in tHc from that SFV I finished and chopped. About 1-week more and some will get incinerated in an ice-packed bong (always) to test whether the isolation had any effect. You'll get my report.
FYI: No grow is the same. Everybody has to tweak their space to them and their plants liking. That being said, Tent People should never heavy-16 or "finish", flush, their plants, because the tent lighting doesn't hardened the interior or side-growing buds. If you finish with 15 mls. of heavy-16 in three separate watering's (hydroJoes directions and personal practice), and then chop the entire plant(s), you'll be dealing with cleaning mushy, gummy, bottom-buds that aren't ready. A real mess.
I've had to cut the hardened buds off my flushed-plant every other day, trim the water-leaf groups immediately, because it's easier to dig to the base of the leaf-stem and nip it then than later, Andy.
I'm probably not finishing any more of my plants or keeping it in the dark for 24 full hrs, unless having done so creates a fantastic surge in tHc from that SFV I finished and chopped. About 1-week more and some will get incinerated in an ice-packed bong (always) to test whether the isolation had any effect. You'll get my report.