i had to create a new user name because somebody is to stoned to send me my password........ PUT DOWN THE BLUNT AND ANSWER THE EMAILS!!! i asked a question that went like this "if i put transparent red film in front of a light would it mimic a hps." people thought i had my head up my ASS!!!! welllllllll, guess what??? according to the california biolight group, i quote "when a color transparency (filter) is placed in front of a standard light source it will cause the light output to mimic the color wavelength of the filter......" sooooooooo, i'll be flowering my plants using 9900 lums, 11-14 watt cf's and a red film. i'll let you know how it works, might be a low cost alternative to hps and mh........