Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Bud Brewer said:
Buds don't develop well or at all with little light
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Ya think? Then how in the hell did these lower chunky buds get there? These plants were totally "shaded" having been crammed into a limited space with its sistas. Nice an natural too with all original fan leaves left intact. Easy peasy.......

Look through the plant in the first & second photos. There's little to no light penetrating that canopy. Most of those fan leaves are as big as dinner plates. Lots of carbos kickin' in. ;)









BB, you're just flat ass wrong and misguided when comes to certain established tenets of horticulture. Me thinks it's time you grew an apple tree or a grape vine, watched as the flowers inside the shaded canopy of a pecan tree turn into fine edible nuts, dtich the pruning shears and step away from your keyboard fer a while and peered into a Plant Culture 101 book. :)

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Uncle Ben

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chuck estevez said:
It's easy UB, you pump your plant full of p and k, pluck all the leaves off, then flush with plain water to recover from the stress. I actually agree with it if your gonna grow all retarded and shit,lol
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Ya got that right! I like the way Jorge put it best - "it's just plain weird" lol. :)
 
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Uncle Ben said:
Ya think? Then how in the hell did these lower chunky buds get there? These plants were totally "shaded" having been crammed into a limited space with its sistas. Nice an natural too with all original fan leaves left intact. Easy peasy.......

Look through the plant in the first photo. There's little to no light penetrating that canopy.









Me thinks it's time you grew an apple tree or a grape vine, dropped the pruning shears and stepped away from your keyboard fer a while. :)

Uncle Ben
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Awesome work with the ladies!
 
Bud Brewer

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Those aren't shaded much or at all I mean dark shade like in my avatar a few inches in that is shade no light gets past and minimal bud density.

I guess you don' t grow big indoors because we are totally on different levels of shade mine completely blocked out a 1000 watt a month before that pic.

I had no choice but defoliate half just after that pic was taken because defoliating in veg grows more leaves later growing them big bucket colas.

Stop comparing these flowers of bud made of leaves to a fruit no comparing at all.
 
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Uncle Ben said:
Ya think? Then how in the hell did these lower chunky buds get there? These plants were totally "shaded" having been crammed into a limited space with its sistas. Nice an natural too with all original fan leaves left intact. Easy peasy.......

Look through the plant in the first & second photos. There's little to no light penetrating that canopy. Most of those fan leaves are as big as dinner plates. Lots of carbos kickin' in. ;)









BB, you're just flat ass wrong and misguided when comes to certain established tenets of horticulture. Me thinks it's time you grew an apple tree or a grape vine, watched as the flowers inside the shaded canopy of a pecan tree turn into fine edible nuts, dtich the pruning shears and step away from your keyboard fer a while and peered into a Plant Culture 101 book. :)

Uncle Ben
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those are terrific ! more evidence supporting LEAVING THE FAN LEAVES ALONE!!!
When we think we know better than nature..we get things like GMO foods and corn fed meats (aka CRAP)
 
Fruitbat

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It's simple; if you are on the space station would you cut off solar panels in an attempt to generate more "energy"? Fuck no. Then why would you do it to your plants?

Defoliating is absolute horseshit and makes no sense.
 
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LET's all arguee with no facts. The only argueement i wanna hear is one from experiace..

If you never took leaves off your plant that were blocking bud sites, you shouldn't be saying it anit going to work. intill you try it don't knock it.

anybody that has taken leafs off a plant probally has grown a plant with out takeing any leaves off before, so they can give there results.

I have never grown a plant in a aeroponic system, so I will not say that Aeroponic is BAD, because i have never done it, so i can't judge it.....
 
Fruitbat

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medical/420 said:
LET's all arguee with no facts. The only argueement i wanna hear is one from experiace..

If you never took leaves off your plant that were blocking bud sites, you shouldn't be saying it anit going to work. intill you try it don't knock it.

anybody that has taken leafs off a plant probally has grown a plant with out takeing any leaves off before, so they can give there results.

I have never grown a plant in a aeroponic system, so I will not say that Aeroponic is BAD, because i have never done it, so i can't judge it.....
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Hey, you should not water your plants ever. Don't knock it until you try it.

Not really sure what a "agueement", "experiace", "anit" or "intill" means but I'll be sure to look it up.

Eh, I give up...enjoy your defoliation.
 
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medical/420

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Fruitbat said:
Hey, you should not water your plants ever. Don't knock it until you try it.
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I have had plants dry out, so I know they need water, i also know they need co2 and Light.
and they dont like 0 degree nights or 120 degree days. just like i know that fan leafs can block light from getting to BUDs on a plant.

Because i have tryed it.... and seen the results from it. go read your grow bible or something
 
Alexander Supertramp

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medical/420 said:
LET's all arguee with no facts. The only argueement i wanna hear is one from experiace..

If you never took leaves off your plant that were blocking bud sites, you shouldn't be saying it anit going to work. intill you try it don't knock it.

anybody that has taken leafs off a plant probally has grown a plant with out takeing any leaves off before, so they can give there results.

I have never grown a plant in a aeroponic system, so I will not say that Aeroponic is BAD, because i have never done it, so i can't judge it.....
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The facts have been presented time and time again, its called botany, facts against the practice.
The claims that it works have not been proven. Only personal observations on a very limited scale. And the reasons used claiming it works go against the laws of nature and horticulture. Fools yourselves if you so wish. But to claim increased yields over proven practices is just plain spreading bad info, down right bullshit.


On a side note: I have been growing MJ among many other plants longer than many in this debate have been alive. Been there, done that on many different levels. What you want to see and whats actually happening can be two very different things. From my many years of experience the way to maximize yields is to grow happy, healthy plants from start too finish.
Yes there are situations that call for topping or training to get the most from your plants and grow space. Nothing wrong with that. Bottom line is though a plant left to do its things will out produce manipulated plants every time if you have the space to let them be free.......
 
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