FAQ's for Maine Patients

Cobb was fired...not matter how it was worded she was fired.....
DEnise at DHHS should also be shitcanned as she still continues to call caregivers telling them they are breaking the law, when they aren't, and threating to send in inspectors with the State Police, which she cannot do......

Why cant they send inspectors? I agree it should not be a threatening thing, but there should be some standard no? Inspections would be fine with me, but it should not be because of an accusation like that. IMO there needs to be a way of making sure product is up to par. After all, we are growing medicine, and no disrespect intended I have encountered caregivers trying to pass off some pretty shitty bud as "medicinal quality". Why is that acceptable, and up to the patient to use their discretion. Its not as easy to walk into a shop and have your pick of 100 strains. Which is good, but caregivers then are responsible for providing the expected quality. However that is defined

in the new law the ability for dhhs to inspect caregivers was removed.....

How, that must of slipped by me. Any idea why?

^^ all of this.
I don't know the details of Cobb but fired or quit, she wasn't helping us. She was against the law from the begining, i remember seeing her at the UMF panel talking it down.

I haven't spoken to denise nor heard those stories, but if thats the case, a) not surprised b) complete bullshit.

at this point they don't have the authority to do shit, this is not a good or bad thing but its the case.

denise called my old lady got her all fired up, she said we couldn't share a room, couldn't donate to others.....I called John and ripped him a new ass, read the laws to him, told him perhaps thay should spend some time reading once in awhile.....

John's on vaca atm, perhaps Denise has power issues as she called the other caregiver yesterday and threatened him with the staties....

that's insane. Only lady i have spoken to was angie or amy or something, she seemed friendly and helpful.. She also sounded like a receptionist and not a department head.

wow. thats bullshit..

The laws are clearly stated and she is violating patients/ cargivers rights if she is horassing or threttning people.

mdanforth said:

denise called my old lady got her all fired up, she said we couldn't share a room, couldn't donate to others

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I don't pay a lot of attention to caregiver issues but folks on the CCM forum are pretty adamant that 1296 changed the donation wording such that only patients can donate to other patients. A caregiver who is not also a patient can only donate to a dispensary.

Evidently 7 of the 8 dispensaries allowed by statute are now open. I am not aware of any of them that are running all that smoothly and/or can remotely keep up with demand. If that situation hasn't changed in say a year from now I expect someone will introduce amendments. Allowing caregivers to grow extra for dispensaries so they can serve patients seems like a no brainer to me. Why should the legislature care if little guys make a little profit for the effort, as opposed to a dispensary making oodles of money (which they would, if they could keep up with demand)?

lobyists

if NEPG, who was affiliated with cali when the law was written, could find a way to relieve the cali side of their overage, (right now cali is saturated with meds, and prices are dropping to the floor) by under the table shipping to maine, then they win twice. no grow costs (or limited to keep their cover) and the help out their other coasts business..
the only logical reason they specifically didn't allow caregivers to sell to dispens. is to keep the profits consolidated to one source..

if it was open to CG's selling overage to dispens. the out of state, and giant grow op's would fail without buying local meds..

its only a guess but it's what i am sticking to. greed is why it's like it is

Ok but if lots of meds come in from out of state it should be obvious to at least a careful observer that the disp isn't growing it all. We'll see if there's oversight.

all it takes is the simple ability to read to be to able to understand our laws....


H. For the purpose of disposing of excess prepared marijuana, transfer marijuana to a registered dispensary or another primary caregiver if nothing of value is received. A primary caregiver who transfers prepared marijuana pursuant to this paragraph does not by virtue of only that transfer qualify as a member of a collective.

exactly. so there is no oversight issue, because they have a steady supply of donated meds from annon donators. they are annon because they can't get a tax credit for it anyways AND in the law excessive overage is frownd upon, both of which make for a plausible situation.

all speculative of course..

Can somebody point me to a list of Maine approved medical conditions? I have a perspective patient or two that would like to be able to see if their ailments/ Medical condition will be "good enough" for a Dr.

The last section is from the new law which realistically allows a doctor to recommend for any condition he deems fit, however most will stick with the listed ailments....

Section 3. DEBILITATING MEDICAL CONDITIONS

3.1 List of debilitating medical conditions. Patients with at least one of the following debilitating medical conditions may submit an application for a registry identification card for the medical use of marijuana:

3.1.1 Disease or medical condition or its treatment.

3.1.1.1 Cancer;

3.1.1.2 Glaucoma;

3.1.1.3 Positive status for human immunodeficiency virus (HIV);

3.1.1.4 Acquired immune deficiency syndrome;

3.1.1.5 Hepatitis C;

3.1.1.6 Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis;

3.1.1.7 Crohn’s disease;

3.1.1.8 Agitation of Alzheimer’s disease; or

3.1.1.9 Nail-patella syndrome.

3.1.2 Intractable pain. A chronic or debilitating disease or medical condition or its treatment that produces intractable pain. For the purposes of these rules, intractable pain means pain that has not responded to ordinary medical or surgical measures for more than 6 months.

3.1.3 Symptoms. A chronic or debilitating disease or medical condition or its treatment that produces one or more of the following symptoms:

3.1.3.1 Cachexia or wasting syndrome;

3.1.3.2 Severe nausea;

3.1.3.3 Seizures including but not limited to those characteristic of epilepsy; or

3.1.3.4 Severe and persistent muscle spasms including but not limited to those characteristic of multiple sclerosis;


§ 2423-B. Authorized conduct by a physician
A physician may provide a written certification for the medical use of marijuana under this chapter and, after having done so, may otherwise state that in the physician's professional opinion a qualifying patient is likely to receive therapeutic benefit from the medical use of marijuana to treat or alleviate the patient's debilitating medical condition.

Thanx, thats what I was looking for. i appreciate it.


I just had a long conversation with my person, and they have discussed this with their Dr. numerous times. The Dr. will not consider the possibility of a rec. I have even printed out the rec form. They (the Dr.) are affiliated with the hospital St.Mary's and its not a possibility for this person.

The patient is on disability (fixed income) and can not afford to Pay 300$ for an office visit to one of the more well known Docs in Yarmouth. And they are very worried about finding a new Doc as they have actually been with this same one for a very long time. They do not know what to do. And im out of answers at this point for them. I know they benefit from the consumption of MJ, and know it helps quite a bit.

If any one can maybe send me a PM with a good Doc in the L/A area, i would seriously appreciate it, and the patient would be indebted to your kindness.

I been around here for a little while and you all see me around the forum, Im not asking for me. this person needs help.


I do not make a dime off any of this. its not about money.

I don't know any doc's in L/A but if your friend really thinks it helps, maybe she could ask her DR. to recomend another Dr that is will to work with cannabis. I think this does two things; 1) lets them and your friend know/remember who is in charge of your own well being, you 2) that she won't be paying his office fee's shortly..

Doctors can be real elitists, but its our own responsability to our own advocates. I don't say that as a knock or charge but as a ralley cry, don't let your friend give up. She's seen this doc for a while? he's not a state paid doc is he? the DHHS docs will NOT recomend canabis.. irony at its finest..

Yes, I believe that is a huge part of the problem, State paid doc.


I dont believe dr's do what is in the patients best interests. i know to many people that cant even get simple tests dont because the drs feel it unnecessary. If they truly cared, they would take the time to actually listen to people. instead they just seem to keep pushing the drugs they are told to scribe out.

id bet 99% of the docs in this area, havent even taken the time to actually read the side effects of the top 10 drugs they push the most. we all know there is no money in drug company's to cure anything. what was the last thing they "cured" polio maybe? how long ago?

They do a great job of creating poisons that suppress symptoms, but do nothing to cure shit. i could never have made it through med school, im to interested in actually helping people, probly the same reason i dont go into politics.

mdanforth said:

The last section is from the new law which realistically allows a doctor to recommend for any condition he deems fit, however most will stick with the listed ailments....

§ 2423-B. Authorized conduct by a physician
A physician may provide a written certification for the medical use of marijuana under this chapter and, after having done so, may otherwise state that in the physician's professional opinion a qualifying patient is likely to receive therapeutic benefit from the medical use of marijuana to treat or alleviate the patient's debilitating medical condition.

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When did this last law change happen i didnt even notice it happened, but ive been waiting for it to happen forever!!!!!!!