Farm Aid

schuylaar said:
thank you again, donald for turning the clock back to 1985 corporate america takeover.:clap:
now trump wants to give farmers MORE welfare for his tariffs gone bad.
funny how its tax cuts/subsidies for some and welfare/SNAP for yet others..only thing i can see is color/class.
maga you fvcks!:finger:
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Just read something that might put your subsidy aversion into perspective:

And on the scale of bailouts, it is barely a blip. During the financial crisis, Citigroup received more than ten times that amount, $476.2 billion, in cash and guarantees from the federal government. Bank of America's bailout had a $336.1 billion bailout.
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Considering those numbers this "bailout" seems rather paltry and hardly another "corporate america takeover" when the financial crisis bailouts were exactly that. ;)
 
choomer said:
Just read something that might put your subsidy aversion into perspective:

And on the scale of bailouts, it is barely a blip. During the financial crisis, Citigroup received more than ten times that amount, $476.2 billion, in cash and guarantees from the federal government. Bank of America's bailout had a $336.1 billion bailout.
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Considering those numbers this "bailout" seems rather paltry and hardly another "corporate america takeover" when the financial crisis bailouts were exactly that. ;)
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sudsidies or tax cuts are not tit for tat..many commercial farmers are very wealthy..we used to have one here. his thing was micro grows.

you don't create deficit for a tax cut and you don't create funds for which you made a weak policy of trade war.

they voted him; now they can lie with in that bed.

you know how many are homeless, have no food? why can't they take the food that will rot in those silos and hand it out before it spoils?

right around the corner from my house..

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aren't prices supposed to drop? gas just went UP .40..why?
 
schuylaar said:
sudsidies or tax cuts are not tit for tat..many commercial farmers are very wealthy..we used to have one here. his thing was micro grows.

you don't create deficit for a tax cut and you don't create funds for which you made a weak policy of trade war.

they voted him; now they can lie with in that bed.

you know how many are homeless, have no food? why can't they take the food that will rot in those silos and hand it out before it spoils?

right around the corner from my house..

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aren't prices supposed to drop? gas just went UP .40..why?
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That guy doesn't care about gas prices.

You should get him a hot meal and a fishing pole.
 
schuylaar said:
sudsidies or tax cuts are not tit for tat..many commercial farmers are very wealthy..we used to have one here. his thing was micro grows.

you don't create deficit for a tax cut and you don't create funds for which you made a weak policy of trade war.

they voted him; now they can lie with in that bed.

you know how many are homeless, have no food? why can't they take the food that will rot in those silos and hand it out before it spoils?

right around the corner from my house..

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aren't prices supposed to drop? gas just went UP .40..why?
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make him your husband
 
schuylaar said:
sudsidies or tax cuts are not tit for tat..many commercial farmers are very wealthy..we used to have one here. his thing was micro grows.
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I said earlier in the thread i was for subsidy for FAMILY farms.
How many 'family" banks do you know of?
I'm just trying to put the subsidy into perspective with huge gov't spending we've all had to live through (well, we'll be paying it forever).

schuylaar said:
you don't create deficit for a tax cut and you don't create funds for which you made a weak policy of trade war.
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Huh?
The how is levying tariffs against countries that already have tariffs against our products a weak policy?
The US has made deficit "for" (because of?) tax cuts ever since we had a deficit. Anytime you spend more than you "make" (levy) you create deficit and there is a laundry list of excuses for why the US has done that.

schuylaar said:
you know how many are homeless, have no food? why can't they take the food that will rot in those silos and hand it out before it spoils?
right around the corner from my house..
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Most, if not all, homeless have no food (of their own) since being homeless they have no where to keep it until consumed.
Isn't that pretty evident when you label them homeless?

No one (not even you) is going to give away all their labor, otherwise you will be exactly where the homeless are.
As to eating the grain, who's going to process it for free to be eaten as you have to mill a grain and then cook it in some way to be eaten.
Who is going to process and store all the meat for not only no profit but no recompense of cost?

schuylaar said:
aren't prices supposed to drop? gas just went UP .40..why?
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Prices falling (in this instance) are for farm related products (meat and grain).
Ethanol producing grain is ALREADY subsidized as the amount of energy to create ethanol is less than it provides as a gasoline additive so that's kind of a wash.
Gas price fixing is well known and not always the fault of tariffs, but god forbid they allow that wonderful excuse to slip by. ;)
 
Most of the farmers who will be getting the money said it would cover this year's losses. But the real loss is the relationships that they have made in the last several years. That and the fact no one is going to be making any improvements to their farms. All big tickets items are put on hold until this trade war is over.
 
choomer said:
Interesting that any post that actually addresses the OP is seen as a "meltdown" by you.
Does it embarrass you that you can't offer anything to a thread other than personal attacks? ;)
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Not true. He offers hysterical one dimensional views with no actual experience to back any assertion up and of course tons of propoganda and fake news.
 
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