Fentanyl conversion

MrEDuck

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Sterile saline and make sure it's labeled do not drink. The thought of banging glycerin turns my stomach and makes me feel a creepy feeling in my veins.

That's not ignorance. That's how fucked up serious opioid addiction is.
While having the clientele die en mass is bad for business a single death brings more business than black Friday. As long as everyone knows what bag killed them.

I take this seriously because it is serious, people drop like flies from this stuff and every mistake kills someone. It's just a question of wether it's a suicide or homicide.
 

theexpress

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ALSO THAT GANG SELLING THE FENTEYNAL DOPE WAS CALLED THE MICKEY COBRAS... none gave a shit about da junkies dieing in allies untill one of those who od was the son of the police chief of melrose park i beleave.. then next day the mickey cobras project buliding was raided in military fashio, and even the lab making the fent. in mexico was taken down... all it took was the right white kid to die off the shit lol
 

VLRD.Kush

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I'm so glad that I have the biggest fear of needles and the worst motion sickness ever. I almost faint when getting my blood drawn, and will throw up off of 10mg of percs. Opiates are gnarlyyy. Glad you're at least being safe, and didn't let your friend blow that shit down.
 

MrEDuck

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In theory it's 50ug/100mg with the 200g but it doesn't work out that way in practice. There will be hot spots.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Sterile saline and make sure it's labeled do not drink. The thought of banging glycerin turns my stomach and makes me feel a creepy feeling in my veins.

That's not ignorance. That's how fucked up serious opioid addiction is.
While having the clientele die en mass is bad for business a single death brings more business than black Friday. As long as everyone knows what bag killed them.

I take this seriously because it is serious, people drop like flies from this stuff and every mistake kills someone. It's just a question of wether it's a suicide or homicide.
Oh. I was trusting that injection wasn't on the menu. cn
 

MrEDuck

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yah, so not fun.. pretty much probably the shittiest full time job i ever had.. :(
168 hours a week and the pay sucks!

There's still a few cities with crazy open air markets like Chicago but they're going away. The DEA and NYPD got it started, I've heard some stories of the old days there. Then they got hit with pretty military raids until they learned they couldn't hold an open market and it got more discreet. I remember when they went to war in Philly. Fucking seemed like a thousand cops coming in and busting everyone then leaving a couple cops on every street corner. The game had to change and it did, there's always gonna be a demand and people will figure out how to supply it. No good having it turn into an actual warzone.
 

theexpress

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168 hours a week and the pay sucks!

There's still a few cities with crazy open air markets like Chicago but they're going away. The DEA and NYPD got it started, I've heard some stories of the old days there. Then they got hit with pretty military raids until they learned they couldn't hold an open market and it got more discreet. I remember when they went to war in Philly. Fucking seemed like a thousand cops coming in and busting everyone then leaving a couple cops on every street corner. The game had to change and it did, there's always gonna be a demand and people will figure out how to supply it. No good having it turn into an actual warzone.
the heroin game is super organized in chicago..... there is more of it here then new york... but yet you guys in nyc have much larger amounts getting seiezed... thats sloppy... its rare here multi kilos of raw dope get popped off... but kilos are broken down and sold everyday... its just too lucrative... u can spend 70-80k for a brick of columbian grey comming in well over 91% pure and whole sale that shit at 120-180k. or break it down chop it into 3 keys then break it into 100 gram chunks and get 80 a gram all day.... just too much money in it.. and its dirty ass money.... shits not for me anymore... i look down on all of it..
 

bowlfullofbliss

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Duck....how are you going to feel when someone dies from shooting/snorting/smoking this shit and you gave them the info on dosing. Fucking stupid. If someone isn't familiar enough on how to do something serious like this they shouldn't be doing it.

This is a pot forum, not a suicide forum. Idiots. And I'm a heavy user myself, thats saying something.

Express....you're a mod....do your fucking job and get this deleted before someone gets any more bright ideas.
 

AndrewDeeKing

Active Member
Duck....how are you going to feel when someone dies from shooting/snorting/smoking this shit and you gave them the info on dosing. Fucking stupid. If someone isn't familiar enough on how to do something serious like this they shouldn't be doing it.

This is a pot forum, not a suicide forum. Idiots. And I'm a heavy user myself, thats saying something.

Express....you're a mod....do your fucking job and get this deleted before someone gets any more bright ideas.
Yeah it is saying something. You're a hypocrite. And i love how thexpress went "this isn't a opiate forum" the continues talking about opiods. And by the way...the cut was made...he did it...and is fine.... (saline solution)
 

AndrewDeeKing

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yup..... i would had even ur mom going threw the south east asian flu......
the heroin game is super organized in chicago..... there is more of it here then new york... but yet you guys in nyc have much larger amounts getting seiezed... thats sloppy... its rare here multi kilos of raw dope get popped off... but kilos are broken down and sold everyday... its just too lucrative... u can spend 70-80k for a brick of columbian grey comming in well over 91% pure and whole sale that shit at 120-180k. or break it down chop it into 3 keys then break it into 100 gram chunks and get 80 a gram all day.... just too much money in it.. and its dirty ass money.... shits not for me anymore... i look down on all of it..
Yeah...i can tell lmao..
 

MrEDuck

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Duck....how are you going to feel when someone dies from shooting/snorting/smoking this shit and you gave them the info on dosing. Fucking stupid. If someone isn't familiar enough on how to do something serious like this they shouldn't be doing it.

This is a pot forum, not a suicide forum. Idiots. And I'm a heavy user myself, thats saying something.

Express....you're a mod....do your fucking job and get this deleted before someone gets any more bright ideas.
Its happened and it has made me quite sad. But I remember that generally drug users (not even just addicts) are often going to do it anyway, and that I have saved many lives by telling people how to do it in a less risky manner. Look at this thread, had the OP's friend decided to use a dry cutting procedure chances of a fatal hotspot would have been quite high. Chances of that as long as they have the sense to give the solution a little jiggle (which I told them to do) are almost nil. I have a few friends and even more acquaintances who are alive because I provided them with naloxone that was used to revive them or they used to save someone who ODed. Yes I provide honest and factual information about high risk behaviors. That generally the asker is doing already or going to do whether or not they have the good info.
Theexpress mentioned people using cottons to filter injections, people who've discussed IV drug use with me are less likely to do so, because I will have showed them how to use a syringe filter. Quite possibly they've been given one by me. Or maybe they're a safer user because when they learned to inject no one made a point of showing them to sterilize the area with an alcohol wipe that costs less than a penny. It's called harm reduction and unlike telling people don't do it it's bad it actually helps. When AIDS spread like wildfire people judged people who got it because they had to a junkie or gay or both. Harm reductionists made sure to teach people how not to get it. Never share or reuse a rig. Wear a fucking condom. You know the gay and IV drug using communities have very low rates of new infections. Among the IV using community new infections are almost always related to a lack of access to clean supplies. And people exposed to harm reduction are not only less likely to die, eventually they are more likely to get help. Because they live long enough to get it!
I've talked to a lot of IV users and none of them ever started shooting drugs because someone posted directions on the internet. No one ever did heroin for the first time because people on the internet said what a wonderful time it was and how good it made their life.
I stand by what I do and it saddens me that you can't understand that it is actually helpful. Take the time to think about it.
 

AndrewDeeKing

Active Member
Its happened and it has made me quite sad. But I remember that generally drug users (not even just addicts) are often going to do it anyway, and that I have saved many lives by telling people how to do it in a less risky manner. Look at this thread, had the OP's friend decided to use a dry cutting procedure chances of a fatal hotspot would have been quite high. Chances of that as long as they have the sense to give the solution a little jiggle (which I told them to do) are almost nil. I have a few friends and even more acquaintances who are alive because I provided them with naloxone that was used to revive them or they used to save someone who ODed. Yes I provide honest and factual information about high risk behaviors. That generally the asker is doing already or going to do whether or not they have the good info.
Theexpress mentioned people using cottons to filter injections, people who've discussed IV drug use with me are less likely to do so, because I will have showed them how to use a syringe filter. Quite possibly they've been given one by me. Or maybe they're a safer user because when they learned to inject no one made a point of showing them to sterilize the area with an alcohol wipe that costs less than a penny. It's called harm reduction and unlike telling people don't do it it's bad it actually helps. When AIDS spread like wildfire people judged people who got it because they had to a junkie or gay or both. Harm reductionists made sure to teach people how not to get it. Never share or reuse a rig. Wear a fucking condom. You know the gay and IV drug using communities have very low rates of new infections. Among the IV using community new infections are almost always related to a lack of access to clean supplies. And people exposed to harm reduction are not only less likely to die, eventually they are more likely to get help. Because they live long enough to get it!
I've talked to a lot of IV users and none of them ever started shooting drugs because someone posted directions on the internet. No one ever did heroin for the first time because people on the internet said what a wonderful time it was and how good it made their life.
I stand by what I do and it saddens me that you can't understand that it is actually helpful. Take the time to think about it.
BRAVO! I 100% agree. He possibly saved my own friends life tonight.

I started used heroin and came from a 0 tolerance family. Dad was a police lieutenatn...whole 9 yards. That appraoch doesn't work! If you are going to do it YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT.
 

AndrewDeeKing

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Hey MrE Duck...after being really curious on how my friend got ahold of this stuff...I found th synthesis...I have no desire to make any..but...wtf is a mole? and mmol? how the fuck would someone practically measure that out? lol..
 

MrEDuck

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A mole is the conversion between atomic mass units and grams, it is 6.022 * 10^23. So a molecule of MDMA has a molecular weight of 193.25, so it is 193.25g/mol. We know the masses of the elements so we can figure out the mass of compounds by adding them up. A mmol is a millimole, or 1/1000 mol. This lets us keep correct ratios of the number of atoms in a reaction. Say I am making MDMA by the reductive amination of MDP2P with nitromethane. MDP2P has a mass of 178.13g/mol and nitromethane is 61g/mol, since you need one molecule of each. In theory you could combine 178.13g of MDP2P and 61g of nitromethane to get 193.25g of MDMA. Since the reaction doesn't go 100% in practice you don't. You'll also find yield increase by using more than a 1:1 ratio of nitromethane to MDP2P.
 

AndrewDeeKing

Active Member
A mole is the conversion between atomic mass units and grams, it is 6.022 * 10^23. So a molecule of MDMA has a molecular weight of 193.25, so it is 193.25g/mol. We know the masses of the elements so we can figure out the mass of compounds by adding them up. A mmol is a millimole, or 1/1000 mol. This lets us keep correct ratios of the number of atoms in a reaction. Say I am making MDMA by the reductive amination of MDP2P with nitromethane. MDP2P has a mass of 178.13g/mol and nitromethane is 61g/mol, since you need one molecule of each. In theory you could combine 178.13g of MDP2P and 61g of nitromethane to get 193.25g of MDMA. Since the reaction doesn't go 100% in practice you don't. You'll also find yield increase by using more than a 1:1 ratio of nitromethane to MDP2P.

WOW! Your brains never fail ot amaze me my good sir! Kudos to you! SO...is there like a flask that would be marked with moles and mmoles like a ml flask? Or does this have to be done everytime?

And what would 10 mmole of NPP be in grams or a form of measurement I could weight out? And I read something about adding it to a liter of solvent? So is it 10mmole in a liter of solevent?
 
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