Fimming With My Blaze: A Complete How to FIM Guide

sweetsmoker

sweetsmoker

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plus with fimming its a quicker recovery and more tops from the process,, however topping will give clones so depends on ya methods i suppose, i fimmed mine this time round 2 see how it goes
 
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DannyGreenEyes

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Mr. StankyFingas said:
Danny, Males will have little club shape characteristics forming between the creeses of the branches (shows earliest near the tops) and the females will sprout little white hairs. How drastically have you increased your dark period and how long ago did you do it? If you want them to bud as fast as possible, then 10 hrs of light and 14 of darkness should deffinatly get em goin. Just make sure on your dark period it is completely dark with no light cracks what so ever: this could cause budding problems as well.
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I'm not trying to bud them yet. They're already mature since I bought them as clones (the nodes are alternating which I'm told is a sure sign). I'll be flowering 2 weeks from Fri.

I think they're fem, but I just wanted some reconfirmation. The dispensories around here (where I bought clones) leave a lot to be desired.

Thanks anyway.
 
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DannyGreenEyes

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I did something stupid guys, a newbie mistake.

I was having trouble filling my 8th & final pot, I kept getting clippings instead of clones and I had no fluoros. So I finally got a rooted clone (Purple Passion) about 3 or 4 weeks ago and I started growing her in a cup to build up roots before putting her in a 5 gallon pot. Anyway, I FIMmed the other 7 plants about 4 or 5 days after I got her and without thinking I FIMed her too. She was about 1 1/2".

Since then she hasn't grown at all. She's still alive and I just transplanted her out of FFOF because she was getting nute burns. Her roots haven't grown either. Strangest thing I've ever seen actually. No death, no growth, just staying the same.

Is she ever gonna snap out of it, or do I have to clip her and re-root her like a clipping, or is she a goner?
 
DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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Id think it was the nute burn that stopped the growth as opposed to fimming it. Im sure it did a lot of damage to the roots for it to completely stop growing. Just keep it in something mild for now, and hope for the best.
 
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DannyGreenEyes

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DaveCoulier said:
Id think it was the nute burn that stopped the growth as opposed to fimming it. Im sure it did a lot of damage to the roots for it to completely stop growing. Just keep it in something mild for now, and hope for the best.
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Yeah, this new dirt I got for clones is supposed to be almost nute free.

But I have other clones that got the nute burn too and I can't beleive the root growth I've seen since I started adding Mycorrhiza only 4 days ago. 1 inch roots are now 3 inches and thick as heck, even with the nute burns. They're all in the more mild dirt now, and I added even more Mycorrhiza.

I have the one that I topped in a pepsi dome again to give her 99% humidity, and I put her back under fluoros for the mean time. Her roots have had 0 change from 3 or 4 weeks ago even with the Mycorrhiza. And she stopped growing right after I FIMmed, stoped everything right in it's tracks. Even has tiny little leaves that were coming out under the main sets of leaves, and they're still tiny.

I'll keep watching her, but if I don't see any new growth in a week or so, what should I try next? Rerooting?

And I'm kinda wondering what she'd do if I threw her into flower in 2 1/2 weeks when I flower the rest.

I know that you're not supposed to FIM till the root system is big enough to handle it, and her root system is about 1/2 inch long and thin.
 
DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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Maybe rooting compound would help? I dont have experience with clones, so Im not too useful :)

Has the clone been over-watered in any way? That could inhibit root development as well. I picked a seedling up at my dads that hadn't grown in a week. The medium was saturated and the taproot hadn't grown at all during this time. Now Ive got to get it in fighting shape before giving it back to him.
 
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DannyGreenEyes

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DaveCoulier said:
Maybe rooting compound would help? I dont have experience with clones, so Im not too useful :)

Has the clone been over-watered in any way? That could inhibit root development as well. I picked a seedling up at my dads that hadn't grown in a week. The medium was saturated and the taproot hadn't grown at all during this time. Now Ive got to get it in fighting shape before giving it back to him.
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I'm using a powder rooting hormone, I reapplied it to her 3 times now, and Mycorrhiza twice. And I haven't overwatered, I've been very carefull not to on any of my plants. I may have underwatered a little bit as I was learning.

Her conditions are exactly the same as the clones except now the clones are under the HIDs and she's under a humidity dome & fluoros now. (did that tonight after transplant).

I just don't know what to do with her anymore, and I can't see any other reason for the stoppage in growth except FIMming her too early. :wall:
 
tightpockt

tightpockt

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Ok..Here's a few newb questions.
1. Just so I make sure I got the basics down. You FIM the new growth and it produces two offshoots..do you then FIM those two offshoots to produce 4 and then 8 etc..?
2. If that is how it works how much would it increase the VEG stage if you were to combine it with the SCROG method?
3. Can you FIM and SCROG at the same time?
 
bender420

bender420

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tightpockt said:
Ok..Here's a few newb questions.
1. Just so I make sure I got the basics down. You FIM the new growth and it produces two offshoots..do you then FIM those two offshoots to produce 4 and then 8 etc..?

1. The amount of new bud sites that are formed can vary between strains a lot. I had 5 tops show up on Himalayan Gold from one session of FIMMING and only 3 on the OG Kush.


2. If that is how it works how much would it increase the VEG stage if you were to combine it with the SCROG method?

2. That depend on the strain and completely up to you on how big you want the plant to be, you could easily do a very short veg time if you FIMM once or even twice.

The time just really depends on the situation, mainly how big your screen is.

3. Can you FIM and SCROG at the same time?
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3. Absolutely, in fact FIMMING and SCROG go together like a charm.
 
sweetsmoker

sweetsmoker

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howlong do u generally have 2 wait before seeing a new set of leaves emerge, reason for asking its bin 9 days since i fimmed my girls and there is now 6 shoots with little leaves sprouting frm them also q yellow. is this about right or did it take longer than usual for the new growth to emerge
 
DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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sweetsmoker said:
howlong do u generally have 2 wait before seeing a new set of leaves emerge, reason for asking its bin 9 days since i fimmed my girls and there is now 6 shoots with little leaves sprouting frm them also q yellow. is this about right or did it take longer than usual for the new growth to emerge
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When I fimmed my plant, id say it took around 3 days for the top growth to really take off. The lower branches never really took off like the top 3, but they were already well developed anyways.

Any chance you can get pics up? Im not liking the sound of the yellowing. Thats probably why your plant is growing slowly.
 
bender420

bender420

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sweetsmoker said:
howlong do u generally have 2 wait before seeing a new set of leaves emerge, reason for asking its bin 9 days since i fimmed my girls and there is now 6 shoots with little leaves sprouting frm them also q yellow. is this about right or did it take longer than usual for the new growth to emerge
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sounds right, it can vary a lot because of so many variable.
 
sweetsmoker

sweetsmoker

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thnx u 2s much appreciated i had heard new growth was suppposed to appear after 2- 3 days so i was slightly cocerned
 
sweetsmoker

sweetsmoker

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can i pick ya brains on summit else? new growth is coming through at speedy rate now but leaves are v yellow all over new growth and the leaves are somewhat thin if u know wat i mean, lookin at info sounds like an iron or copper def which it cud be as ihad nute lockout which is now sorted thanx to thorough flush. i have a foliar feed harpin alpha beta protein which stimulates aggressive growth hormones and also has trace elements of iron and copper ,, iam going to use this wat u think about it? i assume th enew growth shud be green like rest of plant , first time fimmer usually jus grow christmas trees:)
 
DaveCoulier

DaveCoulier

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sweetsmoker said:
can i pick ya brains on summit else? new growth is coming through at speedy rate now but leaves are v yellow all over new growth and the leaves are somewhat thin if u know wat i mean, lookin at info sounds like an iron or copper def which it cud be as ihad nute lockout which is now sorted thanx to thorough flush. i have a foliar feed harpin alpha beta protein which stimulates aggressive growth hormones and also has trace elements of iron and copper ,, iam going to use this wat u think about it? i assume th enew growth shud be green like rest of plant , first time fimmer usually jus grow christmas trees:)
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Never used the product, so no idea. Ive never had much luck with treating deficiencies with foliar feeding. I hope it'll go better for you. Hopefully the flush gets everything taken care of.
 
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