Finish line w/foxtail question

Hello all, I am hoping for some strong opinions here based on past experience. So lay it on me.
I have a single plant, strain is plain old Diesel, grown from a feminized seed. She had a sister until “it” became confused and was overtaken with Gender Dysphoria (sp?), hermied, and had to be removed.
Anyway, growing in coco amended w/ dry organics. Light is a HLG 320 r-spec.
She has been under 12/12 for 63 days and started popping pistils almost immediately, so I’d say today is roughly day 60 of actual flowering.
All looks pretty good to me and the grow has been problem free, except for some burnt tips around week 5-6 of flower.
My question has to do with the foxtailing that is apparent on most of the buds. It’s been my observation that once the foxtails start, they continue to appear and with them the wave of new white pistils.
I think I’m pretty confident in determining when buds are ripe.:..and usually ripe buds are not covered or even partially dotted w/ white pistils.
Right now the trichomes are easily 2/3 milky with a very few random ambers.
I can see the trichs being in a very good harvest window a week to 10 days from now….but that’s just a guess.
I can also imagine the foxtailing to also be present and continuously cycling new ones.
I am not actively feeding anything now and my last top dress was a small one about 2 weeks ago.
Should Ignore any new foxtails (w/ white pistils) and harvest based on the overall stage of the trichomes?
I’ve really screwed up in the past letting buds grow too long waiting for amber trichs and waiting for every single random white pistil to turn color and recede. Because I waited the buds lost much of their terp profile….basically lost the pungent smell and not as sticky.
Right now these buds are stinking to high heaven and sticky as a glazed donut. I don’t wanna lose it.
What does everyone think??

I’ve seen worse but could you maybe narrow down your questions as I got a bit confused and admittedly my brains a bit fuzzy right now

Bullmark said:

I think I’m pretty confident in determining when buds are ripe.:..and usually ripe buds are not covered or even partially dotted w/ white pistils

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You’ve answered your own question already

Herb & Suds said:

I’ve seen worse but could you maybe narrow down your questions as I got a bit confused and admittedly my brains a bit fuzzy right now

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I’m sorry….I have a bad habit of making my posts too long and wordy.
I guess my question is should I harvest if the trichomes are in a good place but the buds keep growing new foxtails ?
I used to think that a plant should never be pulled if it still had any white pistils popping. But over time I’m not so sure of that stance.

bk78 said:

You’ve answered your own question already

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I think my statement about ripe buds not being covered with white pistils is generally correct. Once the buds have gone through their usual stages and the calyces have swelled up, there are usually very few, if any, white pistils showing. Some strains, because of genetics and/or the environment, go through their stages, swell up, but continue to foxtail……which late waves of white pistils.
I certainly don’t wanna harvest too early but I also don’t want to miss the best window to harvest for the stickiest and stinkiest buds.

Bullmark said:

I think my statement about ripe buds not being covered with white pistils is generally correct. Once the buds have gone through their usual stages and the calyces have swelled up, there are usually very few, if any, white pistils showing. Some strains, because of genetics and/or the environment, go through their stages, swell up, but continue to foxtail……which late waves of white pistils.
I certainly don’t wanna harvest too early but I also don’t want to miss the best window to harvest for the stickiest and stinkiest buds.

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Yes I have but I still consider it harvesting early
Maybe cut back on Nitrogen and stop Calmag if you are using it
What are your high temps ?
I consider yours premature

I titrated the cal mag down to zero about a week ago. She’s just getting water with Cannazym.
I lowered the temps gradually from 80f-daytime & 68-70-night to 75-daytime & 62–night.

I could never harvest it right now with all those white pistils. But I’m guessing in another 7-10 days the trichs will say harvest but the foxtails will still be popping out new white pistils.
I hope I’m wrong and the existing pistils turn and recede on que, and it doesn’t continue to foxtail.

As far as determining when she's ready, disregard the foxtail buds, use the older ones to determine ripeness. You could be waiting weeks for the foxtail buds to finish, meanwhile the lions share of the buds will be brutally over-ripe, that's often when you get mold issues.

that’s exactly the confirmation I was looking for. She’s not quite there but I think she can see the finish line.
The larger colas on the perimeter of the plant are the main “Foxtailers”……the inside smaller buds are doing it a lot less and look closer to ready.
Every other indoor plant I’ve grown has been taken to very end of the harvest window and some well past it. I had told myself this one I may shoot for the very beginning of that window…..but for now it’s at least another week and evaluate.

Phytoplankton said:

As far as determining when she's ready, disregard the foxtail buds, use the older ones to determine ripeness. You could be waiting weeks for the foxtail buds to finish, meanwhile the lions share of the buds will be brutally over-ripe, that's often when you get mold issues.

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It’s been 10 days since my last post and although many of the pistils have turned and receded, there are still many little foxtails with white ones.
There are some clear trichs, but I think there will always be. The majority of them are cloudy and I estimate about 10% are amber on the calyces.
I do notice a couple of areas on the very tips of the biggest buds, where the trichs look degraded or basically fried and dried…..but these are very small spots.
Ive gradually shortened the days to 10.5/13.5…..and lowered the light intensity slightly. My temps are 73-74 day and 62-65 night.
It may be my imagination but i think I notice a slight decrease in the strong smell that this strain (Diesel) has.
It would be much more convenient to harvest a week from today, but I can chop it anytime really.
Whatta ya think?? I’ve concluded that the plant is going to be harvested with some degree of white pistils present. I would be willing to bet it will still have them a month from now.
By the way, it’s day 73 since the flip to 12/12 and she started showing almost immediately.

I'd let her ride, next week shouldn't be a problem imo..

I checked this morn and decided to give her another 4/5 days…..I’m hoping the current white pistils will mature and it won’t pop out any new ones. The trichs are perfect with a fair number of ambers on the calyces throughout all the buds.
She’s really not drinking hardly any water and the leaves are getting crispy at the tips.

So, what was your outcome? When did you harvest?

I chopped her on the 26th I think….just a couple days after my last update. It turned out great.
Ended up with a touch over 7 oz of dried manicured buds….and I clipped it all extremely close.
I’m almost halfway through flowering with my newest run. I’m hoping I can get a pound.
The space is 2’x6’…..I grew that one plant under a HLG 320. So I decided to add another light and maximize my space.
I added another HLG….a Patriot 150. So I have 470w and its full coverage for the entire space.
This time I went w/ 3 clones (from Trustfall) and they are busting out of the space.
Anyway, I included a pic of some of the harvested Diesel and a recent pic of the current run. I’m about 4 weeks into flower and they’re already frosty AF.
Can’t