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majek

majek

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Finshaggy said:
Go read up on Slash and Burn and forest fires. When I tell you to READ I really mean READ. Not "Reply with some stupid remark as soon as possible" :dunce:
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Why don't you go read up on meth addiction because that is the road you are heading down...
 
theloadeddragon

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Finshaggy said:
Go read up on Slash and Burn and forest fires. When I tell you to READ I really mean READ. Not "Reply with some stupid remark as soon as possible" :dunce:
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YOU READ- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash-and-burn

Although a solution for overpopulated tropical countries where subsistence agriculture may be the traditional method of sustaining many families, the consequences of slash-and-burn techniques for ecosystems are almost always destructive.[SUP][citation needed][/SUP] This happens particularly as population densities increase, and as a result farming becomes more intensively practiced. This is because as demand for more land increases, the fallow period by necessity declines. The principal vulnerability is the nutrient-poor soil, pervasive in most tropical forests. When biomass is extracted even for one harvest of wood or charcoal, the residual soil value is heavily diminished for further growth of any type of vegetation. Sometimes there are several cycles of slash-and-burn within a few years time span; for example in eastern Madagascar the following scenario occurs commonly. The first wave might be cutting of all trees for wood use. A few years later, saplings are harvested to make charcoal, and within the next year the plot is burned to create a quick flush of nutrients for grass to feed the family zebu cattle. If adjacent plots are treated in a similar fashion, large-scale erosion will usually ensue, since there are no roots or temporary water storage in nearby canopies to arrest the surface runoff. Thus, any small remaining amounts of nutrients are washed away. The area is an example of desertification, and no further growth of any type may arise for generations.
The ecological ramifications of the above scenario are further magnified, because tropical forests are habitats for extremely biologically diverse ecosystems, typically containing large numbers of endemic and endangered species. Therefore, the role of slash-and-burn is significant in the current Holocene extinction.
Slash-and-char is an alternative that alleviates some of the negative ecological implications of traditional slash-and-burn techniques.
 
Finshaggy

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majek said:
Why don't you go read up on meth addiction because that is the road you are heading down...
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Cool So at least we know you're a troll. You're fine coming here to reply, but not willing to educate yourself on the subject at all. CAN SOMEONE START DELETING THIS GUYS POSTS, YA'LL SAID NO MORE TROLLING RIGHT
 
majek

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Finshaggy said:
Read yourself, got this from YOUR post: "for example in eastern Madagascar the following scenario occurs commonly. The first wave might be cutting of all trees for wood use. A few years later, saplings are harvested to make charcoal, and within the next year the plot is burned to create a quick flush of nutrients for grass"
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Keyword "a few years later". So you plan on growing these plants for a few years? Cannabis is a annual plant unlike trees and the roots are much more sensitive to contaminants.
 
majek

majek

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Finshaggy said:
Cool So at least we know you're a troll. You're fine coming here to reply, but not willing to educate yourself on the subject at all. CAN SOMEONE START DELETING THIS GUYS POSTS, YA'LL SAID NO MORE TROLLING RIGHT
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That's not trolling, I care about plants and humans and I hate to see their potential go to waste. This thread is an example of both human and plant potential being wasted.
 
theloadeddragon

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Finshaggy said:
Read yourself, got this from YOUR post: "for example in eastern Madagascar the following scenario occurs commonly. The first wave might be cutting of all trees for wood use. A few years later, saplings are harvested to make charcoal, and within the next year the plot is burned to create a quick flush of nutrients for grass"
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^^^ LOL ^^^ You cited a commercial agricultural technique that didnt work, and pick a little piece out of it in an ATTEMPT to justify your personal.... STRESS TRRAINING, lol

Hey Dip-

My Dads Thesis was on fire science in relation to forestation "control Burning" - a practice that natives to the americas used for centuries (MY ANCESTORS DIPP), it was exacted as a horticultural Science you will Obviously Never Understand.

He is a Practicing Botanist by the way. I have sooo much respect for this guy..... he gets paid to travel the world and educate people about land management on large and small scale, and horticultural practices. Do you know what that is?

Why you try to argue with science, and what is KNOWN.... is beyond all of us.

Slash and Burn is NOT PRACTICED in the United States- Control Burning is.... they are both large scale forestation (deforestation) practices, that have hundreds of years of measured results.

Fire and ash are necessary parts of nature you dont understand.
This is bringing us into MY profession.... Horticulture, land management, forest RESTORATION and preservation, landscaping, tree service and care, gardening.... Horticulture consultation....

You work at a Mall right... minimum wage right. Dont ever have kids man.
 
Mechanical

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There are a few definitions of slash and burn. He's talking about a tribal thing where they burn an infertile plot of land and plant directly in the ashes. Once that crop is done they go to another plot and do it again while letting the burned one grow again naturally which takes a long time. They do this cause they don't have fertilizers like we do. Fins just doing it for show to look different and edgy. As far as the plant life cycle thing.. Fin believes that weed was put here for us to smoke so to him it is the end of a cycle. Just gotta enjoy this for what it is.. A show and a young kids need for attention. When he grows up he will look back at these times in his life and laugh.. I hope:)
 
Finshaggy

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Mechanical said:
There are a few definitions of slash and burn. He's talking about a tribal thing where they burn an infertile plot of land and plant directly in the ashes
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Exactly. If you read in to Slash and Burn and Forest Fires. there are amazing stories of amazing growth and quickly.
 
Finshaggy

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Finshaggy said:
Read yourself, got this from YOUR post: "for example in eastern Madagascar the following scenario occurs commonly. The first wave might be cutting of all trees for wood use. A few years later, saplings are harvested to make charcoal, and within the next year the plot is burned to create a quick flush of nutrients for grass"
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Read this shit, this is how it works^^^^. These farmers were even willing to waste season growing saplings JUST to make charcoal for a good slash and burn.
 
theloadeddragon

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Finshaggy said:
Read this shit, this is how it works^^^^. These farmers were even willing to waste season growing saplings JUST to make charcoal for a good slash and burn.
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Do you even know what "create a quick flush of nutrients for grass" means?

None of those immediate results are cannabis. LOL- Again look up Correlation ;)

Did you know the only way to cultivate Redwoods is through forest fires?

I suppose your going to start Firing your cannabis seeds now LOL.

The charcoal is used in OTHER industries smart guy.

You took an IRRELEVANT portion of my quote and transposed it to TRY to get it to support your claim.

Epic Fail Mr. Alkaloid builder...
 
majek

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TBH I feel bad for the guy, he did say this was his first 18/6 grow after all, but only an idiot would turn down helpful advice from experienced growers and say he has centuries of knowledge to back up his claims.

You should show this thread to your mom so she can see what a great job she did at raising you.
 
Mechanical

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Finshaggy said:
Finshaggy said:
Read yourself, got this from YOUR post: "for example in eastern Madagascar the following scenario occurs commonly. The first wave might be cutting of all trees for wood use. A few years later, saplings are harvested to make charcoal, and within the next year the plot is burned to create a quick flush of nutrients for grass"
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Read this shit, this is how it works^^^^. These farmers were even willing to waste season growing saplings JUST to make charcoal for a good slash and burn.
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Yes but that is for large areas of land. You have bottled nutrients which are better than ashes. You dumping it on your soil isn't gonna benefit them but it isn't gonna hurt then either.
 
Stomper420

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So, I watched the vid of your sister. She must have gotten the good stuff cause shes just a tad smarter then you shaggedfin...What other vids does she do?
 
Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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theloadeddragon said:
Do you even know what "create a quick flush of nutrients for grass" means?

You took an IRRELEVANT portion of my quote and transposed it to TRY to get it to support your claim.
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1. It means that they burn the field so that when they plant grass the depleted soil (depleted from the last two grows) has a BLAST of nutrients to grow the new grass with. So I am FLUSHING nutrients into my soil, and YOU are being a douche. 2. Why was there "irrelevant shit" in your post? :lol: And it wasn't irrelevant. I was able to use it quite well to argue your point.
 
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