First Clones

Joe Blows Trees

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As everyone else has said, those shoots will work. If you use aloe, put some in your water you're going to soak the cuttings in too, it'll also help. Before you put the cuttings in the rockwool cubes, dip the end in aloe then place in the cube. Good luck and I'll be waiting to hear of your success.
 

Kind Sir

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I clone a lot and here's my two cents. (I work almost exclusively with fast-growing indicas so most of my observations should be seen in that light, eh?)

The older the donor mom the better chance you have of seeing roots. Cuttings taken from moms that have been in dirt less than 5 weeks are tough to root. At 6 weeks in dirt my moms have my rooting rate over 90%. If you take a cutting from a mature mom you will notice a hole running down through the center of the stem. That hole helps the plant siphon water better and is likely to root faster. So, if you have the patience, wait until mom is 6-7 weeks in dirt before taking your cuttings. I like to take the entire top 6-8 inches off the top of a plant when she gets over 6 weeks. That top crown is nearly always the easiest thing to get to root.

I recommend keeping extensive notes when cloning. Every plant has to be individualized. If I put 5 rooted Blueberry Gum clones into dirt on Jan. 1 they would have individual labels of "BG 1-1-A, BG 1-1-B, etc.

Good luck, BigSteve.
Im looking to buy stuff from amazon to mKe a cloner. Honestly only have 50$ that I can spend towards cloning, as I need other stuff as well. I was looking to build a small cloner out of plastic can (like folgers) or something similar (link to thread regarding this cloner is on pg 1)

What do you use?
 

tyke1973

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Ok cool, ill give the aloe a shot. I got this rx green solutions as a sample. The cloning regime is 3 bottles. Mist, solution, gel.

I thought it said to spray the plant (or shoot your cloning, idk off top of my head,) with the mist a week prior to cloning. Then the solution is for soaking the clone cube or something, and the gel is used like normal. Probably just use aloe to start off with.

The pictures I posted above, will those shoots work as good practice clones?
Kind sir ,yea perfecto for clones try not to take the first set of clones to big,I would cut the clone so the whole of the stem is in the cube,this helps with stopping the clones from wilting,try misting the clones twice a day for the first 5 days,with a fine mist and the inside of the propagation trays lid,after 5 days ,mist once a day for about 4 days then after that no more misting.but check to make sure the medium there in does not dry out,also don't have it too wet,just damp.

I would all ways soak the cubes in what ever you are using has a rooting compound,say you are using a gel add a bit of the gel to water stir it till it's mixed in well then soak the cubes in it.

Also don't rush them don't think just because some people claim to root in days,and yours may take 2 week somethings wrong .they normally take 10/14 days,but once you see roots ,let them get a good few, before re potting ,it won't hurt them and I have found by letting them get a good head of hair before re potting once they hit the medium you are putting them in they will fly up.


Good luck tyke
 
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tyke1973

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I clone a lot and here's my two cents. (I work almost exclusively with fast-growing indicas so most of my observations should be seen in that light, eh?)

The older the donor mom the better chance you have of seeing roots. Cuttings taken from moms that have been in dirt less than 5 weeks are tough to root. At 6 weeks in dirt my moms have my rooting rate over 90%. If you take a cutting from a mature mom you will notice a hole running down through the center of the stem. That hole helps the plant siphon water better and is likely to root faster. So, if you have the patience, wait until mom is 6-7 weeks in dirt before taking your cuttings. I like to take the entire top 6-8 inches off the top of a plant when she gets over 6 weeks. That top crown is nearly always the easiest thing to get to root.

I recommend keeping extensive notes when cloning. Every plant has to be individualized. If I put 5 rooted Blueberry Gum clones into dirt on Jan. 1 they would have individual labels of "BG 1-1-A, BG 1-1-B, etc.

Good luck, BigSteve.
What's the blueberry gum like dude,I got a bean of that,I used to use a very small amount of super thrive to the cubes,then a friend in the states told me to use a very small amount of flowering nutrients ,clones really respond well to pk,I used that method up to not long ago.but once I started using the a/v I ain't used nothing else since,and I now grow my own a/Vera plants,on one of my next cloneing I'm going to use the a/v in the mister just to see if ,it works.I can't see why it should not work has a folia feeding,we see.
 
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Kind Sir

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Ok so after doing alot of reading last night/ this morning, this is what I plan on doing.

1. Must order rapid rooters, cloning tray/dome. (I have a heating pad.)

2. I have RX Green Solutions cloning regime, plus aloe to try out.

I understand the basics of cloning, but as for specifics..

1. How do you prevent embolisms?

2. I read about people cutting into the stem to promote rooting, how/where does this take place?

3. Do you cut directly BELOW a node? Seems most clones are about 3 nodes total on avg?
 

Joe Blows Trees

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Some do cut up the stem about an 1/8" high from the 45° cut, I think that's grower choice. It's supposed to help the rooting agent absorb into the plant. I recommend atleast two nodes on your clones and you can snip a little off each fan leaf tip to help promote root growth.
 

KingBlunted

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Yes cut below the nodes you want rooted. Leave only enough stem below nodes to allow nodes into rapid rooters. You can clone any size as long as it has nodes. Just make sure they aren't to big for the dome. I found an awesome dome/tray in bakery section of supermarket. It had twelve 2" spots for individual cupcakes on the outside and a big 8" spot in the center for a cake. Tray is black and blocks out light. 10$ to eat cake cupcakes and get a cloning dome. Ha!!
Gently pluck off leaves except for the top and or rough up the stem near the nodes you plan on applying the gel. I take a new unused razor and slide it up and down the stem on either side of the nodes.youll see green outer stem layer shave off. Dont push hard or go too deep. Then apply the gel. Never dip cuttings directly into the gel container. Always pour a Lil gel in a shot glass or similar vessel and dip clones in that to.
Ok so after doing alot of reading last night/ this morning, this is what I plan on doing.

1. Must order rapid rooters, cloning tray/dome. (I have a heating pad.)

2. I have RX Green Solutions cloning regime, plus aloe to try out.

I understand the basics of cloning, but as for specifics..

1. How do you prevent embolisms?

2. I read about people cutting into the stem to promote rooting, how/where does this take place?

3. Do you cut directly BELOW a node? Seems most clones are about 3 nodes total on avg?
 

bigsteve

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What's the blueberry gum like dude,I got a bean of that,I used to use a very small amount of super thrive to the cubes,then a friend in the states told me to use a very small amount of flowering nutrients ,clones really respond well to pk,I used that method up to not long ago.but once I started using the a/v I ain't used nothing else since,and I now grow my own a/Vera plants,on one of my next cloneing I'm going to use the a/v in the mister just to see if ,it works.I can't see why it should not work has a folia feeding,we see.
The Blueberry Gum via G13 Labs is a short bushy indica that finishes quick. Best of all it is a consistent in the clone domes. With the larger 2 inch jiffy pellelts in 7 oz. Styrofoam cups I can count on seeing roots on days 7-8. The predictability is important with a perpetual grow, eh?

Good luck, BigSteve.
 
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