First grow, 2 plants, 1 question

You can turn the light up. Just move it up when you do then gradually lower it back down so you don't burn them. As far as the vert bulb there's a whole section on growing like that here. It looks like good fun though I've never done it! But if your not going to grow true vert flip that light on it's side. Your wasting a lot of light that way.
 
You can do your entire grow under hps and most growers here do.
you must have learned everything from google.
You sound like a google expert.
superjoint said:
every strain grows different,and you have them under a hps ,which doesnt promote alot of vegetative growth,are they on a 12/12 cycle already?Cause you need some veg time to get the roots to fill in those 5 gal buckets,at least three weeks in soil,get some good organics for feed with myco in it to speed it up,or hygrozyme,sensizym,cannzym,pick one,you want the roots to fill those buckets if you want a decent yield
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He wasn't saying put it in to 12/12 he was asking. Secondly I use metal halide for veg and hps for bloom. I've tried hps through a life span and noticed stretching and a slower growth although not a massive difference. Common rule of thumb on lighting distance, if your hand can feel it your plant can feel it. 8-12 inch is sufficient. On cool tubes with a vent pulling and pushing I've ran it to the glass, with no light burn. Currently having to do that. Lack of space in my grow tent vegged them longer than I should have. Shit happens though, Whatever works for you and what you have truthfully. Back to lighting I have never done a vertical light, let me know how that works on those two beauties. Also learning first hand is far better than searching through forums and getting bashed. Everyone starts somewhere. Best luck on the grow
 
ZkayAvenger said:
He wasn't saying put it in to 12/12 he was asking. Secondly I use metal halide for veg and hps for bloom. I've tried hps through a life span and noticed stretching and a slower growth although not a massive difference. Common rule of thumb on lighting distance, if your hand can feel it your plant can feel it. 8-12 inch is sufficient. On cool tubes with a vent pulling and pushing I've ran it to the glass, with no light burn. Currently having to do that. Lack of space in my grow tent vegged them longer than I should have. Shit happens though, Whatever works for you and what you have truthfully. Back to lighting I have never done a vertical light, let me know how that works on those two beauties. Also learning first hand is far better than searching through forums and getting bashed. Everyone starts somewhere. Best luck on the grow
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Does more light = faster vegging though?? If I am losing a bunch of light from having the bulb hung vertically and it is slowing down the process I'd like to flip it sideways. Although the way I have it setup right now is the bulb is about 16" off my plants dangling vertically, with my ballast on the low setting.

I did notice this morning, not a whole lot more leaves have started growing but the stems, my god they thickened up like crazy what seemed like overnight! I think I am doing ok, just questioning the light situation. I know the best way to do things sometimes is to find out first hand, through trial and error, but that is also how failure happens-lack of knowledge, and right now I cant afford to lose these two babies. They would be hard to replace and very time consuming as they came from out of state:lol:
 
More light = larger plants. Also it will decrease the internodal spacing, giving you bushier plants. Bushier plants = more bud sites.
 
And... If the stems are thickening up you know that the roots are growing well. So give them a little more time and you will see massive growth at the top since you will have nice big plumbing (roots and stems) to uptake nutes and water.
 
I run horizontal, there are a lot of variables in plants vegging faster. Light being one of the key components. They look healthy so no issues there. Leave umm be I close my tent up for days at a time. Plants only need me there for feeding and making sure timers and lights are on point. Other than that I let um do their own thing, fimming, and topping come into play also but run um til crop, since it's your first run and can't risk um. Best of luck :-)
 
ZkayAvenger said:
Also take that ballast off of low setting unless trying up conserve on your pud bill.
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So should I crank it to the highest setting? Or progress it up a notch as the plants grow? I guess I had a lot more than one question! But gaining some good knowledge here.
 
Full blast, if I remember correctly you said you had a 600w? Light density isn't gonna hurt the plant it will actually help it. The brighter the light the better. Temp kills not light. I change out bulb every two crops. So the lumens are constantly at a high. Bulbs lose brightness over time......if you want a good book that's a good beginners guide with a lot of pictures go on amazon and order......"marijuana horticulture - the indoor/outdoor medical growers bible." It's not the end all be all but it is a very helpful little book to have. Read,read, and read some more when lost.
 
ZkayAvenger said:
Full blast, if I remember correctly you said you had a 600w? Light density isn't gonna hurt the plant it will actually help it. The brighter the light the better. Temp kills not light. I change out bulb every two crops. So the lumens are constantly at a high. Bulbs lose brightness over time......if you want a good book that's a good beginners guide with a lot of pictures go on amazon and order......"marijuana horticulture - the indoor/outdoor medical growers bible." It's not the end all be all but it is a very helpful little book to have. Read,read, and read some more when lost.
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Ok, thanks for the info everyone! I greatly appreciate the help. I'd pass the dutchie if you all were here! Haha anyway ran into a new issue. I got a hood for the bulb, now when I have it 18" off the plant on low ballast setting my temp reading is 84. When I.crankhe ballast up I'm sure the heat will rise. I have a fan in there blowing wind throughout the room. But its still at 84degrees with the lowest ballast setting, 16-18" off plant. In a 5x2 1/2 room. (Closet)
 
See how the plants respond first off. But it sounds like your gonna need to introduce a fan bringing fresh air In and a fan to bring air out. Inline duct fans are what I use. Truthfully I've seem plants handle 90 degrees without blinking an eye. And other who hate anything about 75. It really depends on the plant, if the plant starts to looked stressed you're gonna have to figure out a way to exhaust that warm air outta there. I dunno the lay out of your closet but punching some holes in the drywall might be your only option here. Maybe shot me some photos of the lay out and I can give you my best idea of what would help.
 
I break 90 then I start to think about exhausting more air. I've never really had a problem with heat. I've done hvac for a living for the last 10 years so it kinda went hand in hand.
 
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From that first pic of the transplant to the hps pics that is 3 weeks of veg. I've had this strain through 2 crops now and got it pretty much dial in. Those plants haven't been topped or fimmed I grew up straight because I was out of town for 2 weeks of the veg and left my buddy to water them. Here in a week I'll move them into a bigger tent and scrog them out. If I don't do that I don't expect anything more than 2 oz a plant. Just thought is share some photos with you, that way you know it's knowledgeable info I'm giving you.
 
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