First grow 4x4 tent 400w/mh 600w/hps

indicantonio · Jan 25, 2013

Guzias1 said:
expect more! i meanm you probably just witnessed the fastest fattets growth they will have this life, but they still got more kick to go! the final weeks are so niceeeeee..

I totally forgot about you indican! but you've been keeping i up quite nicely, subbbbbbbbbed..

Hahaha, How's it going Guzias1! Yeah you saw the seedlings and then the ladies all grown up! haha. I'm so excited for these last weeks! Anything in particular to expect? I'm kind of expecting to "just know" when to harvest, any tips?

Noob187 said:
Definitely get the exhaust going in the tent, that is the best option. The 4" will do just fine, I use a cheap duct booster in my veg box and it keeps relatively cool, also with t5's. My tent is cooled by passive air intake/ambient room temps.

Cool! Do you think the flowering tent will be alright though? Right now the temp is pretty much perfect that's why I'm scared to take it out. I had a ducting fan but it was too loud I am sharing a wall with neighbors.

Noob187 said:
Sorry to hear about your troubles. Last time I germed out of Roots Organic - original 5 for 5 hatched, 3 of them broke ground in 3 days, the other one was a straggler and I didn't think it was going to hatch so I stuck another seed in there, that seed hatched in 3 days, then a week later there was another baby growing under the 1 week old sprout. So they all hatched, just one of them took longer than I thought it would, the late hatchling turned out to be a male anyways.

Ok, yeah I wasn't expecting Roots to be bad for seedlings or anything just curious. I'm not sure what exactly changed from my last germ, trying to figure it out. I really don't want to blame the quality of the seeds "even though they were freebies from Attitude". Will probably keep with the paper towels or try rapid rooters for next time

Noob187 · Jan 25, 2013

Cool! Do you think the flowering tent will be alright though? Right now the temp is pretty much perfect that's why I'm scared to take it out. I had a ducting fan but it was too loud I am sharing a wall with neighbors.

That's a good question, I hooked mine up similar to yours but have my fan running on the 2nd speed. I found it works a lot better if I put the 4" Vortex on the other side of the hood. So maybe it won't be alright for you. I'm not really sure, my tent is about 1 foot smaller than yours also. Only thing you could do is try, if nothing else save up $ for a new fan.

Ok, yeah I wasn't expecting Roots to be bad for seedlings or anything just curious. I'm not sure what exactly changed from my last germ, trying to figure it out. I really don't want to blame the quality of the seeds "even though they were freebies from Attitude". Will probably keep with the paper towels or try rapid rooters for next time

Could've been temps, could've been the seeds, I've seen a lot of people have problems getting freebies to hatch. I hope my freebees are viable.

I've never had any issues planting straight into dirt with no humidity domes or none of that. The most I deviated from soil was coco coir, which worked pretty well but doesn't have those organic nutrients to help kick start the plants unless you add them, so they tend to grow a little slower when started in coco in my experience.

I've seen people have a lot more problems and higher failure rate using cubes and paper towels than just putting them into soil. That sucks you had a bad experience man. I would probably want to change things up a bit to. Maybe try the Coco coir, it contains Trichoderma fungus which is a fungicidal fungus that eats the fungus that cause damp off insuring a hassle free germination, so long as its properly washed.

Guzias1 · Jan 27, 2013

Knowing when to harvest...

I picked up a microscope to help me out here..
watching the trichs turn from clear, to foggy, to amber has got to be one of my favorite pastimes
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Once you see an actual amber trich , I'd recommend starting the straight water flush...
Also.. Let your harvest have some adequate of drying time before you smoke her!!.

I smoked my baby about 10 days after chop.. Was alright. But after curing for a week or two. Taste, and smoothness got way better.. Sonya.

Microscope and patience my friend! Almost there!

indicantonio · Jan 27, 2013

Guzias1 said:
Knowing when to harvest...

I picked up a microscope to help me out here..
watching the trichs turn from clear, to foggy, to amber has got to be one of my favorite pastimes
..

Once you see an actual amber trich , I'd recommend starting the straight water flush...
Also.. Let your harvest have some adequate of drying time before you smoke her!!.

I smoked my baby about 10 days after chop.. Was alright. But after curing for a week or two. Taste, and smoothness got way better.. Sonya.

Microscope and patience my friend! Almost there!

Thank you for the advice! Any recommendations in microscopes... I just searched a bit in Amazon and stumbled up on http://www.amazon.com/Watch-Repair-Magnifier-Loupe-Glasses/dp/B007YBEHIO/ref=pd_sim_p_13 hahaha god I want a pair of microscope glasses

Guzias1 · Jan 27, 2013

those look sweeeet,haha, i would buy a pari of those just for the hell of it, people think you are a mad scientist

I picked up a scope that looks exactly like this from the hydro store for $20.. its got an adjustable scope, white, and blue LED lights, and ya, it works really well! just need a steady hand, and trillions of trichomes to look at

http://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Micros...-Adjustable/dp/B0053VJEL2/ref=pd_sbs_indust_6

Chimone · Jan 27, 2013

Subbed for sure!

Looking great

hippy132 · Jan 27, 2013

Try Amazon -
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002E0MU70/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i01

indicantonio · Jan 28, 2013

This morning I didn't have to go to work, enjoyed a nice wake&bake with a good espresso and went home to feed the ladies jammin to some Sizzla Kalonji, I am young but have a very stressful job and I've always had anxiety problems even severe panic attacks. It's amazing how much peace these plants give me in many aspects.

WEEK 7 DAY 51

Guzias1 · Jan 28, 2013

indicantonio said:
This morning I didn't have to go to work, enjoyed a nice wake&bake with a good espresso and went home to feed the ladies jammin to some Sizzla Kalonji, I am young but have a very stressful job and I've always had anxiety problems even severe panic attacks. It's amazing how much peace these plants give me in many aspects.

sounds like an excellent day, i love when days off work surprises happen, and then you get to go spend all that time around your garden :] ..

i feel ya man.. i got a fulltime job, thank gods i got one, but it sure can be wayyy stressful.... i dont know if i have anyhting, i may, i dont really even know what to consider normal.. but! i know when i was younger, pre-pot(pre anything), i used to come up with wayyy too many insane ideas, it lead me to get involved with a not so healthy lifestyle.. once i started smoking, my life changed for the better i believe, pot cools me down, actually gives me time to think about my actions before pulling triggers now.. ya, that was with the help of smoking... NOW< with growing, its a whole new world. passing time taking care of my ladies feels just as good as if im smoking, it really relaxes me, its as own medicine in its self just growing..
7 weeks, yeee!!! im just behind you about a week in one of my grows, lets see who finishes first

Auzzie07 · Jan 28, 2013

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Great work so far, Indicantonio. I started reading the thread because I too am about to drop some serious scrill on a DR II 120 & Lumatek 600W. Heat issue was one of my main concerns regarding whether to get a 600 or 1k lamp, but I figure if I can get the idealistic 1g/W that is more than enough for my personal stash. Anywho, enough about me.

I would say definitely move the 4" inline over to the veg chamber; passive intake should be more than enough in your flowering chamber.

As far as how much longer til you get some gratifying buds: 2 weeks. How much longer til they're ready: 4ish weeks. As far as how you "will just know"...
1. Trichomes form along every crevasse of the plant (sugar leaves, fan leaves, calyxes, even on the stem!).
2. Trichomes go from clear, to cloudy, to amber. I prefer a 50/50 cloudy/amber mix, but to each their own. Do a little research and find what suits your taste.
3. The buds themselves begin to have a golden/silver glow to them (this is due to the massive amounts of trichomes that are amassing themselves over a small surface area, hence even from a distance they nearly glimmer)
4. The fan leaves may start to die off in the last couple weeks, usually exhibited at first as a nutrient deficiency.

Well, I'm here for the long haul, can't wait for an update.

bottletoke · Jan 28, 2013

subb'd!
this is looking hawt!

BadAim · Jan 28, 2013

interested to see what you pull out of this one , id be nice to grow my personal top shelf while I wait on my outdoor

indicantonio · Jan 29, 2013

Auzzie07 said:
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Great work so far, Indicantonio. I started reading the thread because I too am about to drop some serious scrill on a DR II 120 & Lumatek 600W. Heat issue was one of my main concerns regarding whether to get a 600 or 1k lamp, but I figure if I can get the idealistic 1g/W that is more than enough for my personal stash. Anywho, enough about me.

I would say definitely move the 4" inline over to the veg chamber; passive intake should be more than enough in your flowering chamber.

As far as how much longer til you get some gratifying buds: 2 weeks. How much longer til they're ready: 4ish weeks. As far as how you "will just know"...
1. Trichomes form along every crevasse of the plant (sugar leaves, fan leaves, calyxes, even on the stem!).
2. Trichomes go from clear, to cloudy, to amber. I prefer a 50/50 cloudy/amber mix, but to each their own. Do a little research and find what suits your taste.
3. The buds themselves begin to have a golden/silver glow to them (this is due to the massive amounts of trichomes that are amassing themselves over a small surface area, hence even from a distance they nearly glimmer)
4. The fan leaves may start to die off in the last couple weeks, usually exhibited at first as a nutrient deficiency.

Well, I'm here for the long haul, can't wait for an update.

Thank you for all that info! I just hung a tower fan thati had around horizontally almost paralel to the t5 if that doesnt work its good to know that the flower would be ok with just passive intake.

Im real happy with my tents the flower tent in my house with the 600w ballast on superlumen hehe keeps to perfect temp in the mid to high 70s

bottletoke said:
subb'd!
this is looking hawt!

Thank you bottletoke

BadAim said:
interested to see what you pull out of this one , id be nice to grow my personal top shelf while I wait on my outdoor

Oh man i cant wait hahaha i wish i could do outdoor i miss doing outdoor. Where i grew up it was all about outdoor now its weird to sleep next to my garden hehehe

Guzias1 · Jan 29, 2013

indicantonio said:
Oh man i cant wait hahaha i wish i could do outdoor i miss doing outdoor. Where i grew up it was all about outdoor now its weird to sleep next to my garden hehehe

i want to use the sun as well, inside a nice greenhouse.. thats my dream..

but i love hearing my leaves blow in the wind while i sleep :]

herbbilly · Jan 29, 2013

Gardening kicks benzos right in the mouth for me. It's my quiet time. Lookin good

indicantonio · Jan 30, 2013

herbbilly said:
Gardening kicks benzos right in the mouth for me. It's my quiet time. Lookin good

Its amazing! I would of never guessed that growing is almost just as good as smoking. I'm in love with growing it is really helping me out, I now feel weird when I go to work it like a cold shower back into the real world.

lykarckstar420 · Jan 30, 2013

indicantonio said:
This morning I didn't have to go to work, enjoyed a nice wake&bake with a good espresso and went home to feed the ladies jammin to some Sizzla Kalonji, I am young but have a very stressful job and I've always had anxiety problems even severe panic attacks. It's amazing how much peace these plants give me in many aspects.

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YAAAAA- I expect alot of this in 3-4 weeks- Nice grow and Journal sir, has all of us glued... Keep it growin'

Guzias1 · Feb 6, 2013

where all da buds at?!?!?!? hope things are running smooth over there! ive been dealing with mishaps on my side, but making it through.. !!!

indicantonio · Feb 9, 2013

Hello everybody!

Sorry I've been a little lost... Real busy with work. Well, the ladies have been going well! For the past week and a half we've been watering them with no nutes and today 02/09/2013 we heavily flushed the ladies prepping them for harvest :weed:

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I bought a cheap $12.00 microscope and its a hell of a difference being able to see those little trichomes up close and personal.

Please I need you're help RIU, I am planning on cutting the ladies next weekend what do you think?

Here are some pics before watering them

Week 9 Day 63

Shits getting fros-tay.

Only Kosher with Main cola

Main Cola Kosher closeup

OG-KUSH "the maturest one of all"

Closeup OG-KUSH stinking up the tent with that lemon pledge scent

Cannalope Kush Super excited with her too

This is the "Deformed" kosher kush ended up growing real well

The lower branching doesn't make sense me and my girlfriend call it "the wall of bud"

Here is the Kosher that has the claw issue ended up giving me the fattest cola

I will be starting a perpetual blog but here is a little peak of the new crop

Thanks for stopping by!