First grow - Auto Ultimate & Tha Shiznit

SickSickWorld said:

UPDATE

I've added a massive 12" oscillating floor fan to help improve air flow, and maybe cool temps slightly. It's currently sat in one corner, but being 4' tall it's pointing down at the light. Considering putting it on the same timer as the lights, out getting a seperate timer, and have it come on in bursts. I'll be investing in a couple of clip on fans soon.

I've also taken to leaving my watering can in there right now, see if that brings the humidity up somewhat. I think 400w hps warming two pots of minimally watered soil, is getting a lil dry in there.

Any thoughts, if I'm doing anything wrong, chime in.

SSW

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Bbcchance said:

Just make sure that fan isn't too much for the little ones yet, you want them to jostle not look like a guy holding onto a pole in a hurricane

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SickSickWorld said:

OK, quick update for today...

THA SHIZNIT
Day 8 from seed
Day 4 from sprout

Still looking green and healthy. Getting a little wider and taller, no new leave yet though. Pics to follow tonight or tomorrow.

MK ULTRA KUSH AUTO
Day 2 from seed

Nothing has broke the surface yet. I'm gonna be super patient with this one though, think I was expecting an early soil pop from The Ultimate. You live and learn.

After changing plugs over, switched out the 12" pedestal fan for a 9" oscillating desk fan, which now sits nicely on the floor and points directly at the hot bulb. Hoping to improve temps a little with this.

Temps around 28-30 lights on (before this fan), 22-23 lights off. Is this too much of a variance? Humidity now sits around 45-50%, up from about 20% before adding watering can to grow tent.

Any thoughts, holla.

SSW

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yeatster said:

As far as the temp variance, I think 10° is good, although I think you want just a few cooler if possible.

I run my tent between 80° and 85°(stoneage American temps), but I have LED. If I remember correctly you are using HID.

I believe 77° light on, and 68° light off, is optimal, although I think you will be fine with those temps you mentioned.

I like pics.
I will show you mine if you show yours.

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SickSickWorld said:

Here ya go, mine as promised. I'm concerned with how small she is, and how slow this next set of leaves is taking to come out. Hoping for a little growth explosion soon.

I'm looking at many options to cool my tent. I dread to think what temperatures will be like in the height of summer. I'm not sure which option would be the best upgrade...

6" extract fan and filter (currently 4")
Cooltube for the hps
Active intake fan

How are your results with led? I'd imagine temperatures would be so much easier to manage!

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yeatster said:

You are doing great!
Right now, she is concentrating on building a good root system. It may seem really slow now but, believe me, there is alot of growth going on underneath. She will grow exponentially from here.

Here is a pic of my youngest, Jack Herer Auto, 10 days was the youngest pic I could find.

What size is your intake compared to exhaust? Some have intake 2, even 3 times the size of exhaust. This might help.
A pic of the actual setup will help people better understand your needs as well.
The more visual updates, the easier.

Yes, LED is very easy keeping temps in check. The humidity is my only issue, due to winter heating. Without the help of a towel wick, I have low 20%'s RH.

The whole LED vs HID is fiercely debated. I chose LED because I had the initial start up $ for it. LED cost more up front, but I think it saves in long haul for the hobbiest grower.
There are alot of crap LED out there. If you decide to go that route I can help you avoid a few hundred dollar mistake, I initially made, and guide you to the best of the best (advice given to me by a much respected expert in the matter).

Anyway, all looks good man! If you get a chance, get some setup pics.

Btw, I don't start with LED in seedling stage. I have a 2', 4 bulb, t5 I like to use.

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yeatster said:

TY, at the moment I am not journaling. Too much time consuming.

Your set up looks good. The debate of passive and aggressive intake will out live us all, I presume.

If you do research LED, try not to be fooled by "reviews". There is ALOT of misinformation and butt loads of $$$ spent getting the well known brands sold. The truth is, if you want a good one, you will pay dearly. I am using a 300w Pacific Lights Concept, $750. I love it so far.
My Advanced Platinum Series p150 is sitting idle now, but I will use it for future early veg.

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SickSickWorld said:

Oh yeah, should have said.

Pots are in the tent under light on 18/6 schedule.

In the post I have a hygrometer/thermometer (currently using a vivarium one, so will use that as backup when digital arrives) and a digital ph meter. Further down the line I will be installing oscillating fans, possibly intake fans if temps get too high, and possibly venting the exhaust through the ceiling, which the missus is gonna kill me for.

I also have in backup 1 x TH Seeds MK Ultra Kush, which sounds incredible. I'll be investing in some more seeds soon, ad maybe try and plant a seed every 3 or 4 weeks, to keep the cycle going.

Any help or advice appreciated, cheers ladies and gents.

SSW

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Hkid427 said:

Your light is way too close and your next time start off in a smaller pot like a red solo cup

What's your temp?

Do you have a fan in there?

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tipper01 said:

hi buddy im using the black orchid range myself but it must be the next 1 up lol 1.2 x1.2 x2m 6" filter. 600hps light. ive got 4 autos on the go at the minute im on about day10 or 11 at the minute, ive got my journal running on a different site though if ya dont mind though buddy i can post sum of the stuff on ere ( not to much just the odd pic ) if ya pm me i will gladly give ya the link to my journal i got my lights at 39" ish not that low as in the pic lol thats just for show lol

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