First Grow - Awful Attempt

Hello everyone. So it's been about a week since these plants sprouted and that's about as far as they got. They just stopped. One of the plants looked like it was doing well, but them over night the stem gave way and become droopy.

I've been using a 250w MH, and also made the mistake of not ensuring that the soil was moist before I planted the seeds.

So are all 3 beyond help? Should I start again? Seeds are 00 seeds Northern Lights

Thanks!

Looks like theyre damping off. is the soil moist right now? have you seen any gnats or bugs? I had fungus gnat larvae kill a seedling of mine before. What soil is it in? You have a hole cut in those cups for drainage right?

Prob over watering. Plants that size needs minimal watering once a week.

Start again. That's just the best advice I can give you. If you keep them going, they'll likely be weaker than they would've, and will never achieve full potential. Also, I highly suggest changing your conditions. If you want an almost guaranteed germination, get yourself some cups, fill with organic soil (i like "nature's care" from home depot), poke a hole, plop the seed in, water it in with a little water, and play the waiting game. I wouldn't even bother with germinating the seeds in towels first, oils from your fingers can kill the roots and just the movement can be a shock to the embryonic plant. That soil you're using looks low quality, not enough light, and possibly over-watered. Remember, you get out what you put in, so give those babies as much TLC as you can!

bbyb420 said:

Looks like theyre damping off. is the soil moist right now? have you seen any gnats or bugs? I had fungus gnat larvae kill a seedling of mine before. What soil is it in? You have a hole cut in those cups for drainage right?

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Apart from moths, haven't really seen any bugs. It's in biobizz lightmix, and yeah there's holes at the bottom. But I didn't feed it much water until today.

ProfessorG said:

Apart from moths, haven't really seen any bugs. It's in biobizz lightmix, and yeah there's holes at the bottom. But I didn't feed it much water until today.

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what was your germination method? did you water the medium when you planted the germinated seed?

I used the paper towel method and I forgot to moisturise the soil, but it wasn't very dry when I planted. Is there any chance for the one that isn't drooping?

They'll all survive with some care.

ProfessorG said:

I used the paper towel method and I forgot to moisturise the soil, but it wasn't very dry when I planted. Is there any chance for the one that isn't drooping?

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That's not good. My guess is they ran out of moisture and started drying up and dying. Moisture is critical in these early stages of the plants life, but you also must make sure you don't overwater. Everytime I transfer my germinated seed into its medium I water it gently then leave it and I dont water again for almost a week. Good news is they aren't dead so maybe since you watered them now they may recover, but it will take time.

If you have more seeds to play with, just start over man, it's a pointless endeavor to try and save them when you'd very well spend less time just growing new ones

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for saving the little happy trees, but you also have to think about genetics- you don't want weaklings to pass on their genes, you want the strong ones to thrive.

greenmagic469 said:

If you have more seeds to play with, just start over man, it's a pointless endeavor to try and save them when you'd very well spend less time just growing new ones

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for saving the little happy trees, but you also have to think about genetics- you don't want weaklings to pass on their genes, you want the strong ones to thrive.

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A little stress to a plant at this age isn't going to cause "weaklings".

They're not dead?? May aswell give it ago, what would you suggest for me to do in order to nurse the 3 back to health? And will this greatly affect yield at the end if they do survive?

ProfessorG said:

They're not dead?? May aswell give it ago, what would you suggest for me to do in order to nurse the 3 back to health? And will this greatly affect yield at the end if they do survive?

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honestly theres not much you can do to save them, just give them time since you watered them. keep a close eye on them. and this wont affect the yield at all imo, once new growth comes it will be like this never happened.

Ah okay, I'm going to hope for the best. How far would you suggest my 250mh should be from the pots? At the moment it's at like 15 inches, and have a fan blowing over the pots to prevent burning.

ProfessorG said:

Ah okay, I'm going to hope for the best. How far would you suggest my 250mh should be from the pots? At the moment it's at like 15 inches, and have a fan blowing over the pots to prevent burning.

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I dont use metal halide for small seedlings personally because they simply dont need that kinda lighting this early but for anything that powerful on a little seedling like these 15 inches would probably be good, maybe a little higher.

bbyb420 said:

honestly theres not much you can do to save them, just give them time since you watered them. keep a close eye on them. and this wont affect the yield at all imo, once new growth comes it will be like this never happened.

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you are a walking contradiction. Just be quiet, before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

Merlot said:

you are a walking contradiction. Just be quiet, before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

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care to elaborate?

out the light at least 24" away they will not need water until your cups feel light and dry at least one week. Make sure your humidty is in the 50-70% range and your temps are 70-80. Take the fan off them it shoudnt be necessary.

Just let them be there is not much you can do at the moment

edity: the seedling hasnt even opened up. Next time I recommend you use rapid rooter plugs or 1" rockwool cubes they are great seed starters

Merlot said:

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A little stress to a plant at this age isn't going to cause "weaklings".

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For them to barely be above ground after 7 days isn't "a little stress", that's basically teetering on the edge of death. You can apply the same rule to the plant as you'd apply to a child, for example. A child whose mother eats well while she's pregnant will be less likely to have mental or physical issues, whereas a child who's mother abused drugs and ate poorly during her pregnancy could very likely have a variety of issues. The plant, in the same way, is a product of its environment. I agree that plants, particularly weed plants, are certainly resilient little creatures, there is no doubt of that; but if you're going to spend 3 months growing something for a quality crop, why would you waste even more time on seedlings that are on crutches? They could very well grow into big healthy plants, but my guess is, if he starts with new seeds, they'll grow bigger and healthier than these would have, especially considering they're not even in proper soil or in a proper climate, and transplanting them will probably hurt them as well. Just my opinion.

bbyb420 said:

honestly theres not much you can do to save them, just give them time since you watered them. keep a close eye on them. and this wont affect the yield at all imo, once new growth comes it will be like this never happened.

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Merlot said:

you are a walking contradiction. Just be quiet, before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

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bbyb420 said:

care to elaborate?

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Uhm.......(scratching head)........ya, what?