First Grow - Bagseed (pics)

Ok I just checked today and my two plants have been in flowering for exactly 2 days 5 hours! I looked at them over for a good while and at first I thought I couldnt see any differences. But I looked closer and started to notice what looks like pistils. They may only be Stipules but maybe you guys can give some advice.

The pictures are really bad. I just don't know how to get my camera to snap a real close up. I put on macro mode and it just got blurrier lol. Any advice on that would help too.

Soon the plants will tell no lies and you'll know for sure.

Yeah, I'm not worried if i get a male and it polinates. All I want is to know I have a female, then I'll know I have it cloned! In the two months that it takes to flower the clone will be cloned and ready to be flowered

Or...so I hope

word, it took at least 8 days to see the hairs. Check out my new post and you'll see them.

Nice journal, sweet program. Can I get a copy of it... It looks great!!!

Scribed and rep for such good work. Did you write that program?

OB Cron Kenobi said:

Nice journal, sweet program. Can I get a copy of it... It looks great!!!

Scribed and rep for such good work. Did you write that program?

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Yep I did write it and I am willing to share with anyone who wants to use it. I'll even include the source code if you have any interest in that sort of thing. I am using a mini-database provided by microsoft (SQL Server Express edition). The program will automatically install it for you but it takes a few minutes.

I just finished it today actually. I'll post a few Screens of the new version, TrialAndErrorMan helped me debug it a little Send me a PM when you get on, What is the best way to send it?

I am definitley gonna do what you did with the cloning, pulling them out of the dome at 10 days to send the roots searchin for water. Great idea, i dont know if it was you or someone else- but very nice.

in a bit- I am about to send my comp in, and want as little as possible on it... but after that- i will pm ya...

Urgent tragedy...HERMIE I noticed some balls today, I'm so sad but none the less I learned allot so far.

ARRRGHH

That sucks man. I'm pretty sure one of mine is a hermi. The other one looks straight female but so did yours for a while. I *promise* to post a nice big update with pictures very soon.

I cloned after I sexed em ,it took a bit longer- but it was nice cuz i know they are all gonna be females.

And I was wondering how healthy it was to clone a clone, i heard the genetics get degraded each time you do it- resulting in a slightly weaker version of the plant.

I was wondering the same thing. Is it better to keep a mother and pull clones off it or clone clones?

I personally don't think cloning a plant can degrade its Genetics.

Here is why: A plant's physiology is the mechanical, physical, and biochemical functions. A plants Physiology is deteremined directly by its genetics. So based on genetic code the plants physiology is fixed (like THC yield, disease reistance etc). Once a living organism is born/grown etc external factors (like stress, old age, lack of light etc, taking clones) can't degrade genetics. Those external factors impact its Morphology (read below), not Physiology. The only way to degrade genetics is to in-breed an organism.

If you start with 2 individuals with largely varying genetic pool and breed them the offspring from the 2 individuals gets its own genetic pool derived from the parents. It doesn't have any uique DNA other then what its parents have. Breed that individual with one of the parents and the genetic variation gets diminished slightly. Continue to breed with the same pool of genetics and it gets stretched and will eventually degrade after say 100 generations of in-breeding.

In contrast to Physiology is Morphology. The term morphology in biology refers to the outward appearance (shape, structure, color, pattern) of an organism. These factors are determined by the environment. Light, wind, heat etc..Cloning the same plant and forcing it to live in 24/0 lighting for more then its natural cycle is programmed for will have an impact on its morphology but not is physiology.

So taking a clone from a clone can't degrade genetics. The only harm I see is taking clones from the same mother for an extended period of time, say a year. The motehr will soon start to produce weak growth (from which you are cloning) and the clones may be stretched or weak. That is why I decided to take clones from the mother at 2 months old. Flower that mother and then use the clones to take new clones. Flower the "clone mothers" after having taken clones from them etc...That way you never have clones from a mother that is over 2 months old. You'll always have new healthy exact genetic replicas of their great great great grandmothers

Hey man nice update, nice to know you got definite female! congrads =]

Thanks man I'm pretty psyched! Can't wait to see the buds develop a little more. I'm just worried that the branches won't be able to support the bud. They kind of LST'd themselves, all the lower branches grew straight out then up towards the light. I guess if worse comes to worse I'll get a screen or chicken wire and scrog it

Check out the picture of the plant, its growing all over the place lol.

some sativa leaves

OB Cron Kenobi said:

some sativa leaves

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Yeah OB, the exact strain is pretty unknown to me. It's just some bag seed I got. The high from its parents is definitely an energetic high, head high. Sativa's grow all crazy like that? The fact that I topped it 4 weeks ago probably didn't help. Topped too early?

I dont know if you topped to early, your probably better off early rather than late- and it has given your plants very nice posture. I am considering whether to top or not, i am kinda all for the natural cola style... i dont sell or anything like that- so i like the idea of enjoying the cola of each plant, the cola being a higher thc content and bigger bud if untopped i've heard.

Yes I agree with the single cola. The next plant I flower I am not going to top and see how it grows with one single fat cola