First Grow. Doing Vertical. Any advice appreciated.

ttystikk

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Thank you ttystikk (I woulda quoted you but I can't yet) that is some solid, succinct advice and hugely appreciated. Yep, I am doing the colosseum version of vertical scrog, I did originally want to use one plant for each side of the cage around the light but I also want to see what this light does with plants that grow ordinarily so I am going to do two as vert scrog and two normal so I can compare the yields.

I have repotted but only into 5 liter pots. I was more naturally inclined to do what you say and repot into their final pots but I got conflicting advice and have only just read yours. I was also told that I shouldn't bloom until the plants are roughly 3 feet tall, this is much less than what you advise, not saying you are wrong but care to clarify? Here to learn.
I ran vertical around HPS lights, then around 860W CDM (same tech as CMH, just a bigger lamp) and then water cooled COB LED of my own design... And then midpower LED in 4' bars.

I ran round vertical silos here (long these in this sub), first 3' tall and then 6' tall. I've put as much as 3kW in one silo.

I ended up running straight flat panels with an aisle between the plants and the vertical LED lights. Why? There's more room for plants, people and lights. Better yields and better ventilation. Geometry helped me make the decision.

There's more, I'll discuss it if you want.
 

gr865

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@Johiem Thanks bud.
@ttystikk Thanks, yeah still hanging around. Waiting on my new 5 x 5 Gorilla GT. Moving my operations to my shop, so been spending way to much monies for what will be my grow area and my Man Cave, LOL
@Canglish Hey do use LED's in my vert grows, but there are some in my signature and I can provide link to some of the others. I will be glad to help, just ask.
Remember, be it vertical or horizontal, Less is More!
 

Canglish

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You will need to repot the plants. It doesn't matter if they like it or if you are worried about it. It needs to be done and you can get it done.
Thank you, I needed that, another repot coming up soon.

@ttystikk any and all advice appreciated, plus if you see me doing something dumb please feel free to point it out
@m4s73r I asked them about PAR numbers but the guy that makes them grumbled and started talking about watts vs PPFI / PPFD vs distance and he kinda lost me, apparently though the plants are supposed to be as close to the light as possible
@gr865 thank you for dropping in, if I have a question I will specifically @ you and ttstykk in my post, this is awesome and why I joined, phew!
 

Canglish

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Week 4

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Pretty boring week as they took to their new pots and I flushed again when their soil dried out. Thelma-Lou hasn't grown at all hardly so I am thinking the repot was not good for her (as well as the nutrient burn previously) as she wasn't quite as ready as the rest of them, could probably have done with another week in her original pot.
 
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Canglish

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Week 5

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They are seeming to bush out now as well as grow taller. Thelma-Lou still had a bad week but has perked up in the last few days so her roots have obviously taken, I will be sure to repot her next time 10 or so days later than her friends. As far as the size differences are concerned Ronald and Nancy are both Elephant X White Widow whereas Barney and Thelma Lou are both pure White Widow. If Thelma-Lou hadn't had such a tough few weeks I am thinking that she would be the same size as Barney.

I have started bending the branches into the cage, more to train them than actually keep them where they are right now as per @JimmiP's suggestion, thank you for that it is going to be my next weeks obsession. I will be keeping the same side of the plant facing the light from this point onwards so they start to naturally train themselves in that direction, if this is a dumb idea please tell me so.

Oh I have started to use nutrient water as of last night too. I prepared a mix that was slightly less potent than what the label suggested. Will be doing two pure waterings to one food watering from now on, again, if anyone thinks I should do differently please say so.
 
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MY OWN DANK

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Week 5

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They are seeming to bush out now as well as grow taller. Thelma-Lou still had a bad week but has perked up in the last few days so her roots have obviously taken, I will be sure to repot her next time 10 or so days later than her friends. As far as the size differences are concerned Ronald and Nancy are both Elephant X White Widow whereas Barney and Thelma Lou are both pure White Widow. If Thelma-Lou hadn't had such a tough few weeks I am thinking that she would be the same size as Barney.

I have started bending the branches into the cage, more to train them than actually keep them where they are right now as per @JimmiP's suggestion, thank you for that it is going to be my next weeks obsession. I will be keeping the same side of the plant facing the light from this point onwards so they start to naturally train themselves in that direction, if this is a dumb idea please tell me so.

Oh I have started to use nutrient water as of last night too. I prepared a mix that was slightly less potent than what the label suggested. Will be doing two pure waterings to one food watering from now on, again, if anyone thinks I should do differently please say so.
Couple of em are looking a little toasty...watch your nitrogen...leaf tips pointing down, burnt tips, dark green leaves are a sign of N toxicity
 

Canglish

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Couple of em are looking a little toasty...watch your nitrogen...leaf tips pointing down, burnt tips, dark green leaves are a sign of N toxicity
Yeh that has been BUGGING me, I think it is an excess leftover from the nutrient burn. I used a less potent mix of nutrients this time after flushing twice and only using pure water for the last 3 waterings. It does seem to be improving with each new set of leaves and there are only a few on each plant which show this problem, i will most definitely be keeping an eye on it and thank you for the suggest.
 
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