First Grow, four plants

Thanks mared
I have planted them in 3 gallons now, flushed them and gave them Super Thrive and some nutes. We'll see if that works
one of them is growing fast, it's 60 cm. The other ones are way behind , I don't know why since I have treated them all the same way.

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hey az..

i can't see your pictures... they won't expand for me

really need to see wide shots of your plants...

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Hello Knowm!
You should be able to open the files in a new tab and then click on it. If that does not work let me know so I can put them in in another form.
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23 May
Transplanted Kahea in 3 gallon pot
Watering: no nutes but 1ml/L Super Thrive
Kahea: 4 liter; PH in runoff 5.7, gave her 3 liter more and final PH was 6.0
Kahea: 47 cm
Eva: 33 cm
WWI: 31 cm
WWII: 19 cm


24 May
Transplanted Eva and WWI in 3 gallon pots
Watering: no nutes but some Super Thrive
Eva: 4 liter; PH in runoff 6.0
WWI: 4 liter; PH in runoff 6.0


25 May
Transplanted WWII in 3 gallon pot
Watering: water with no nutes and some Super Thrive
WWII: PH in runoff 6.2
I topped Kahea since she is growing really really fast

26 May
WWII looks really weak, pale green and small and doesn’t grow much


Watering: ½ strength nutes with PH 6.0
WWII: PH in runoff 6.4??? How did that happen????
Kahea: 4.5 liter; runoff: 15 %; PH in runoff 5.8


Kahea is a girl, jippi,
Here are some pics, but I don’t know if Eva is a girl as well or not
If anybody can see please tell me


Pictures: Kahea, Eva, Eva.

28 May
Kaheas lower leaves are getting yellow
Watering: ½ strength nutes with PH 6.0
Eva: 4 liter; runoff: 12 %; PH in runoff 5.9
WWI: 4 liter; runoff: 15 %; PH in runoff 5.8
Kahea: 60 cm
Eva: 39 cm
WWI: 38 cm
WWII: 28 cm

29 May
Watering: ¾ strength; 0.5 ml/gallon Super Thrive; PH 6.0
Kahea: 4 liter; runoff: 15 %; PH in runoff 5.9
Kaheas lower leaves are getting more yellow
Foliar feeding with 2ml/liter Ionic Growth and 4 drops/ liter Super Thrive
After I sprayed kahea I realized that I put too much Super Thrive in there
Making new water with 1 drop/liter Super Thrive for the rest of the plants.



31 May
I have cloned Kahea, Eva and WWI, took two clones of each
I foliar fed all with PH adjusted water
Watering: ¾ strength; 0.5 ml/gallon Super Thrive; PH 6.0
Eva: 4 liter; runoff: 10 %; PH in runoff 5.8
WWI: 5 liter; runoff: 10 %; PH in runoff 5.8
Kahea: 67 cm
Eva: 47 cm
WWI: 45 cm
WWII: 33 cm

1 June
Watering: ¾ strength; 2 drops/gallon Super Thrive; PH 6.0
Kahea: 5 liter; runoff: 20 %; PH in runoff 5.5 too low again
WWII: 4.5 liter; runoff: 15 %; PH in runoff 5.7

2 June
WWI upper leaves and new leaves are lime green, I don’t know why that is.
Kahea grew 3 inches last night and burned the tip

I saw that WWII have magnesium deficiency, I think the Ionic growth might have too little magnesium in it, I have had this problem since start. The lower leaves are yellow with spots, feels papery to the touch.

Foliar fed them all with 0.25 tsp epsom salt/liter water.

Kahea: 76 cm
Eva: 52 cm
WWI: 50 cm
WWII: 34 cm

Pictures: WWII mag deficiency, the grow room

A lot of people using coco add cal-mag. They swear by it so much I got some but haven't used it because my plants aren't looking deficient. Maybe it would help you out.

My top leaves turn lime green when the light is getting too close. Happens all the time but when I move the light up they get green again in a few hours.

I still think it's crazy that your ph is so far away from what you put in. When I first got my ph tester I was feeding with 6.0 ph and runoff was 5.4. I know I said I didn't test runoff before but your issue got me curious about it. I started to use 6.3 as feed until my runoff reached the same number which only took three feedings. I'm finally at the point where I put in 6.2 and get out 6.2 almost every time.

When are you going to flower? I might have waited two long. My plants are getting super tall. Yours look awesome by the way.

Honestly ur babies look realy good sorry have not stopped by in a while have been busy, did not read everything ill be baack to read up on the updates later

Thanks for stopping by hazey Eyes

Ok, so it's been a while, my plants are doing pretty good, one had to be cut so I have three now. My PH is still wacko, I might use another medium next time. I have made 6 clones and and all survived and I have to plant them soon.
I send some pics tomorrow
ciao

5 June
Opened the door after 12/12 it was 82F which is great
Mared told me that I should add Epsom salt to my watering. so I will give them epsom salt once a week 1 tsp/g
Watering: ¾ Ionic; half Growth/half Bloom; PH: 6.0; 1tsp ES/g
Kahea: 4.5 liter; runoff: 15%; PH: 5.7

7 June
Watering: ¾ strength half bloom half Ionic; PH 6.0 and 1 tsp ES/g
Eva: 5 liter; runoff: 15 %; PH in runoff 5.7
WWI: 4.5 liter; runoff: 10 %; PH in runoff 5.6
WWII: 2 liter


9 June Watering: ¾ Ionic Bloom PH: 6.0
Kahea: 6 liter; runoff: 15%; PH: 5.6
Eva’s stem is not purple any longer

10 June
Lower leaves on WWI are yellowing

Watering: ¾ strength; PH 6.1
Eva: 6 liter; runoff: 15 %; PH in runoff 5.6
WWI: 5.5 liter; runoff: 10 %; PH in runoff 5.6

I sprayed Scarid 10 on coco in WWI and Eva since I saw several gnats flying around

Eva: 84 cm
WWI: 76 cm
WWII: 58 cm

11 June
Eva had a lot of water droplets all over the leaves, specially the margins when I put the light on this morning, I am not sure what that is, maybe she was sweating. Does any body know?

Eva is a male; I cut her down

The clones I took a few days ago have some root formation so I transplanted them in small pots with coco; 0.25 ml/4 liter ST and 1/8 Ionic Growth Nutes

WWI is not doing so good; a lot of the lower big leaves are kind of folding, drooping.

12 June
WWI lower leaves are drooping, black margins, soft yellowing of lower leaves.

Flushing each with 6 gallon water 6.0 and 1 drop ST/g , and 1.5 l ¾ Ionic Bloom PH 6.0

Taking three more clones from Kahea, two from same spot as before, they had grown very well. one was taken from higher up and marked with black plastic. Two cuttings was taken from WWII.

WWI: 84 cm
WWII: 62 cm

Pictures Eva's last day

15 June
Kaheas leaves are hanging down, she is so dry, hope she 'll be ok.
Watering: full strength Bloom, 1 tsp ES/g

16 June
Several more of WWI lower leaves died, also some of WWII lower smaller leaves.

Watering: ¾ strength; PH 6.2 and 1 tsp ES/g
WWI: 5.5 liter; runoff: 20%; PH in runoff 5.6
WWI: 97 cm
WWII: 74 cm

17 June
Several of Kaheas lower leaves fell of as I touched them, they were yellow and small.

18 June
WWI still looks really sad, especially the lower leaves, all hanging and every day some fall. I have no idea whats wrong.

WW I: 101 cm
WWII: 77 cm

Watering: no nutes 0.5 ml ST/g PH:6.2
WWI: 6.0 liter; runoff: 15 %; PH in runoff 5.8

Pictures: Kahealani, she has grown big and there are at least 20 bud sites

Everything looks really good, don't worry at all about those lower leaves. On my favorite plant I average about 2 or 3 leaves a week yellowing completely from nitrogen deficiency and then falling off. VERY NORMAL. You have plenty of leaves there. My other plant is very nute sensitive and has kept the lower leaves nice but burns if I give it the same dose as the yellowing plant. Same strain, same conditions, completely different tolerances. Weird. I would rather have a couple deficient leaves at the very bottom than burn at the top. And make sure you have some string on hand. Your plants look about the size of mine and you'll need to be tying up those fat buds soon!!!

thanks monkey
its so much fun growing, I am so happy I started.

Mared that plant is the good one, WWI is the weak one, I'll send a pic soon. All of her lower big leaves are hanging down. I am going to follow your advise and give them higher PH and see what happens. The good news is that WWI have a lot of budsites. hopefully she will keep the leaves a little longer.
I read some where that you should only give the plants nutes once a week, do you give them nutes every time? I remember you told me you give them 3/4 but it would be good to know how often.

Azadeh said:

Mared that plant is the good one, WWI is the weak one, I'll send a pic soon. All of her lower big leaves are hanging down. I am going to follow your advise and give them higher PH and see what happens. The good news is that WWI have a lot of budsites. hopefully she will keep the leaves a little longer.
I read some where that you should only give the plants nutes once a week, do you give them nutes every time? I remember you told me you give them 3/4 but it would be good to know how often.

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Definitely every time. I was a bit cautious in the beginning because everyone says newbs overdo it. Recently I've been pushing my plants to their limits and they love it. Once a week nutes is for soil. Us coco heads have hungry plants. My label strength ppm is 600 and for the last two weeks I've put in 700 plus 100 of Calmag every time. Took some minimal burn to get it down but you have to experiment some. Every strain is different. I've only flushed twice since grow day one. If you look closely at the wide shots in my journal you will see numerous lower leaves looking sad. They're nice and green, just droopy. It happens. Maybe your pics will change my mind but unless half of the plant is sickly I wouldn't worry. Oh, and could you remind me what day flower you're on?

Thanks mared,
I have been giving them nutes almost every time but some how they don't pick it up and the PH goes down.
I don't have PPM meter so I don't know what 100 calmag means.
here are a couple of pics of WWI

I don't know what is wrong with her, the other two are doing good. The leaves have been drooping for a long time now, the lower leaves yellow and the margins gets brown and then they fall.

Yeah, that's not normal for them to do that. Looks to be a watering frequency problem. ppm is parts per million, a measure of nutrient concentration in water. Calmag is a supplement for hydro plants with calcium, magnesium, iron, and other minerals.