First Grow...unhealthy babies and help is needed.

Looks great beppe glad you pulled the trigger on the lollipopping. I use biobizz's organic line. For blooming i used biobizz bloom and biobizz topmax. You can buy a small 3 pack that includes the grow with it as well on amazon for like 20 bucks which is a steal compared to what i paid but i did also get the bigger bottles. That stuff does go along way and i couldnt be happier with the product. Its three bottles through out the grow im not really into using 5, 6 or even 7 different chemicals in something i plan on smoking just my opinion so i try to keep it as clean as possible.

update... this is how they look today... they have stretched a little ...most of the branches are 2-3 inches over the screen and i'm hopeful they will stretch some more... since this is only the 13 day of flower....
it was a hassle to water them but with some patience i gave them 5l of water each they were thirsty after the flush...
i'll wait some days and maybe i'm going to lollipop them some more.
i still have some issues like slightly pale budsites and the same old necrosis and leaf twisting
although less @ this point.
a lot of bud sites are just below the screen...i don't want to trim them ...i hope they grow through it and give their little contribution....
now its a question of waiting and feeding full bloom nutes....
temps are good these days...i maybe have to lower the RH to 30% since it is constant in the 50-55% range
cheers.

i would really like some input regarding my babies...
they are now in their 15 day of 12/12... from the last post they have stretched a little more as you all can see from the pics but they continue to show this yellowing and pale green colour on the top of budsites.... this is concentrated in the smaller branches as a fenomen... the bigger branches( the main one) show relatively green and healthy bud sites....i fed today a little calimagic( prevalently silica and magnesium ,iron and other minerals) anyone knows what it may be????
overall lookof canopy...

plants and budsites detail... i know they look like normal in the fotos but they reallu re yellow compared to the main branches leaves and tops.


now the underscreen growth... which is a concern for me because some of the biggest branches , even though they are stretching well over the screen have a part of them under the screen, now these parts,little mini branches, are budding and i feel sad chopping them... what do you suggest , i would have waited a week more or less and then chopped everything under the screen except these little bud sites which seem to flower nicely...i thought maybe someone which has experienced this kind if thing could HELP???

the branches that are budding in the middle of the screen look like this ,
look where the finger is pointing to see the little side braches that are budding and which i feel sorry to trim or chop... Can they be left without compromising the grow?:



The overall stretch can be seen in this pic.

Hello You all guys...
i nedd some help asap please...
i have experienced a problem with the babies.... if anyone is willing to help is welcome...
i have been working literally 18h per day lately and i let them dry a little to much...
i recall i am growing in 3.5 gallon coco hempys but they went 5 days without water... i did not notice any signs of underwatering but two days ago i saw what looked like a nute burn to me...last feeding was 5 days ago and i fed them a 850ppm nutrient solution of GH Flora series of 10ml Micro+8ml Grow+13ml Bloom...it was the last transition feeding planned and today i wanted to feed full bloom nutes of 10ml M+5ml G+ 15ml Bloom but instead since i noticed this signs...look @ the borders of the leaves...
it looks like over ferilization to me... but it maybe potassium def as well...i don't know really. i am no expert and it maybe something else as well....


i reduced today feeding @ 430 ppm like 50% strength....
now, i don't know what this maybe so.... i'm asking for some HELP...
maybe i should flush them again with some good ph-ed RO water to clean everything up and then start feed full bloom nutes but i don't know so i'm open to advise...
some overall foto of may canopy and my scrog attempt... which could have been better but since this is my first grow i'm just learning first hand what growing and scroging is in practice.

i did some defoliation but i think i'll need some more in the next days ... i just need them to be happy first before i stress them by chopping their leaves.
Last question is...
Is it normal for pistils to turn brown while the plant is in flower and the buds are forming?
i see that in some of my flowers ,pistils , are turning brown... like they were also burned... could this happen?
What cause this?

Thank u all.

hey beppe i think your ok. I wouldnt defoliate anymore at this point some will say you still can but i feel like your just barely to far and may run the risk of getting a hermy if anything you can remove a couple little leaves or bud sites i wouldnt go crazy with it. I noticed a rust patch maybe ph? My last plant did this in flower as well with the ends of the leaves kind of drooping i think it could be genetics. 5 days with no water?? unacceptable dude lol they are probably just hungry but they dont look to bad to me at all.

USbeginnerguy said:

hey beppe i think your ok. I wouldnt defoliate anymore at this point some will say you still can but i feel like your just barely to far and may run the risk of getting a hermy if anything you can remove a couple little leaves or bud sites i wouldnt go crazy with it. I noticed a rust patch maybe ph? My last plant did this in flower as well with the ends of the leaves kind of drooping i think it could be genetics. 5 days with no water?? unacceptable dude lol they are probably just hungry but they dont look to bad to me at all.

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hello US... i did not have any other option, i know it is unacceptable, at some point i feared of finding them fried under the light, fortunately they resisted ... i have been working literally 18h a day and i was destroyed @ feeding times...so i just slept. anyway this is the only round they are going to go 5 days without water, having some bugger buckets helped i think because they did not show any signs of underfeeding but you may be right that they are hungry... i fed a light mix yesterday just to see how they would react... i probably will go with feeding them every two days now and i think the same as you about defoliating... just a little of the underscreen grow....
yes, there are some rusty patches on the borders of the leaves in the fotos.... i don't think is ph cause i have always double checked it.... i don't know why these rusty spots appeared becaused i have never fed a stronger mix than 850ppm... runoff is in this range.... ph runoff last round was good @ 5.68 PH so i don't know.... maybe they really don't like calimagic... i fed them some of it before these rusty spots appeared???? who knows???

do you think this is normal....
i know i'm obsessing but i have no experience when it comes to pistils/bud hairs ... they should be white till harvest time or @ least until late in flower???
they are turning brown at an alarming rate.... not all of the buds are doing this(some are shiny white...yet, touching my balls ...but a good portion...


i'll have to wait and hope they shoot some new white hairs...
meanwhile i have let the tent with only the airflow that the inline fan produces...
i think the fan was to near the canopy and was burning the pistils...
lets wait and see....

Some strains will start turning after 3rd week of flower but they will continue shooting out white ones even after you pull them in some cases. Plants love their fan right at top/above the canopy because it moves all the stale air between the light and the canopy, just try your hardest not to point it straight on the canopy (unless you have no choice). I don't know what kind of ratio you are running with those nutes because i don't know anything about that line, but make sure you keep it at 3-1-2 or 3-1-3 all through flower in coco hempy's. Don't worry about runoff in coco, just make sure you keep your ph from 6.0-6.2 (some people will go as high as 6.5 late in flower) going in and your ppms can stay right between 600-800.

Do you have a silica supplement? Pro-Tekt from dyna grow is awesome and can be used all through flower. It's a perfect PH up and keeps ph stable for quite a few days.

Oh yeah don't forget to factor in the NPK from calmag because it is like an additional nute all in itself. I recommend not giving calmag very often but maybe 1ml/gal once a week at most. I dropped it after vegging was over, but i also use a nutrient line that has plenty of calmag in it.

SamsonsRiddle said:

Some strains will start turning after 3rd week of flower but they will continue shooting out white ones even after you pull them in some cases. Plants love their fan right at top/above the canopy because it moves all the stale air between the light and the canopy, just try your hardest not to point it straight on the canopy (unless you have no choice). I don't know what kind of ratio you are running with those nutes because i don't know anything about that line, but make sure you keep it at 3-1-2 or 3-1-3 all through flower in coco hempy's. Don't worry about runoff in coco, just make sure you keep your ph from 6.0-6.2 (some people will go as high as 6.5 late in flower) going in and your ppms can stay right between 600-800.

Do you have a silica supplement? Pro-Tekt from dyna grow is awesome and can be used all through flower. It's a perfect PH up and keeps ph stable for quite a few days.

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SamsonsRiddle said:

Oh yeah don't forget to factor in the NPK from calmag because it is like an additional nute all in itself. I recommend not giving calmag very often but maybe 1ml/gal once a week at most. I dropped it after vegging was over, but i also use a nutrient line that has plenty of calmag in it.

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thanks Samsons...
i'm trying to find a better place for the fan , it was actually a little to near some of the buds....
the ratio fo the nutes is like 10ml micro - 5ml grow - 15ml bloom ( i suppose this translates into 2-1-3)
ph is maintained around 6.0 for now...plan to raise it to 6.2 gradually...
my nute mix with the aforementioned schedule of 10-5-15 comes just @ 850ppm of which 280 are from tap water... i will not add cal-mag for now... i believe they don't need it.
i've used mineral magic from GH as per instructions but i strongly believe they don't like it...although i have no other experience to compare....so i really am not sure...
thanks for your help man.

Update...
we are getting closer, i have finally got the babies healthy just in time for the most important period of their lives...
the light is doing a very good job, considering all the stress the babies had to take and the enviroment temps which have been for the most part of flower between 30-33C....it is to hot in here...anyway...this is how things stand today...
overall...

best buds

the nuggets are not that big... but are really dense, sticky and still swelling ...
this looks nice and still getting better...
i can't wait for harvest day and most for the first taste of my self grown medication....
i will update again @ harvest time...
until then enjoy everything you do guys... cheers