First grow, Week 5

LOKY49er

Member
Any suggestions? It seems to me that she is growing at a slower rate than some of the other plants I have seen on here. :-(

I don't have a device to measure PH levels, I mostly use direct sunlight for about 8 hours a day and a CFL light a few inches above the plant for another 8-10 hours while I sleep.

I want to try and keep the plant a bit smaller so it is easier to conceal, any ideas on how I can keep her from getting too big but still give me a good amount of bud?

Any suggestions will be appreciated!
 

SYROUS

Well-Known Member
more info dude what r u feeding it ,are you using city water? leaving it out for 24hrs? pH strips are cheap or a liquid test kit 6 bucks at wal-mart or any fish store? it will gro slo in window use cfl all the time,get 2 100w equivilants 6700k,will do much better.
 

clasonde

Active Member
1. more light, 2. lst, 3. fim/top, 4. supercrop for more budsites

edit: 5. get a timer because if at any point you have different "sunrises, or nighttime" it can cause unwanted hermi/male stress.
 

LOKY49er

Member
Yeah bros, I'm a newbie gotta tell me what these acronyms are.. LOL
LST?
I am using filtered purified water from the well at Smith's...

I mean it's not a big deal for it to grow slow, so yeah. I got the parentals around most of the time so it makes it hard to get a hold of that kind of stuff, but I think I will just have to move it outside soon, How should I go about that? Cause she is already starting to stink.. =]
 

clasonde

Active Member
LST = low stress training. what i do is to allow the plant to reach 6-8 inches in height, and tie a piece of string around the upper part of the plant and tape it to the sides of the pot. this allows light to reach the lower portions of the plant, and helps even out the canopy. you can do this as much as you want, as long as you dont break or damage it, it will only cause minimal stress if any.

FIM = "Fuck I Missed". its basically the same concept of topping except you only "pinch" or cut with scissors. First locate the top of the plant; ie the new growth tip. cut off about 80% of the new growth tip and your plant might go into shock for a week or so, but it stops all vertical growth and you can end up with anywhere from 2-8+ tops depending on strain.

Topping = the idea of eliminating vertical growth and growing a bushier, smaller plant with 2 main colas instead of one. Wait until the plant is either very healthy during week 2, or as long as you have a week or two before you flower. I like to top after the 3rd or fourth node (Uncle Ben has a very nice guide located somewhere on RUI), basically locate the node where you want to make your cut and cut with a clean pair of sterilized scissors right above the node directly through the main stalk. you can use the cutting as a clone if you want to as well.

Supercropping = one of my most favorite and useful tricks. This technique creates a sturdier stem, faster rate of growth, and a hell of a lot more budsites. I usually supercrop my plants at the end of week 1 flowering. Basically you grab the stem in between your thumb and pointer finger and apply a little pressure until you hear a small snap or feel it. dont squeeze too hard or you could cause some serious damage. What you are doing is crushing the "tube" in the middle of the plants stem that transfers essential nutrients and energy to different parts of the plant. This causes your plant to go into "overdrive" (in my opinion) and by week 3 of flowering, or whenever the stretch period ends, you should have atleast 5x as many budsites. Be warned not to squeeze too hard and be prepared for a short shock period, if any. You will know if you were successful when there is a kind of "knot" where you inflicted pressure. This knot should be slightly discolored or brown, and very hard.

hope this helps, didn't take me too long once I got started.
 

Phase420

Active Member
LST = low stress training. what i do is to allow the plant to reach 6-8 inches in height, and tie a piece of string around the upper part of the plant and tape it to the sides of the pot. this allows light to reach the lower portions of the plant, and helps even out the canopy. you can do this as much as you want, as long as you dont break or damage it, it will only cause minimal stress if any.

FIM = "Fuck I Missed". its basically the same concept of topping except you only "pinch" or cut with scissors. First locate the top of the plant; ie the new growth tip. cut off about 80% of the new growth tip and your plant might go into shock for a week or so, but it stops all vertical growth and you can end up with anywhere from 2-8+ tops depending on strain.

Topping = the idea of eliminating vertical growth and growing a bushier, smaller plant with 2 main colas instead of one. Wait until the plant is either very healthy during week 2, or as long as you have a week or two before you flower. I like to top after the 3rd or fourth node (Uncle Ben has a very nice guide located somewhere on RUI), basically locate the node where you want to make your cut and cut with a clean pair of sterilized scissors right above the node directly through the main stalk. you can use the cutting as a clone if you want to as well.

Supercropping = one of my most favorite and useful tricks. This technique creates a sturdier stem, faster rate of growth, and a hell of a lot more budsites. I usually supercrop my plants at the end of week 1 flowering. Basically you grab the stem in between your thumb and pointer finger and apply a little pressure until you hear a small snap or feel it. dont squeeze too hard or you could cause some serious damage. What you are doing is crushing the "tube" in the middle of the plants stem that transfers essential nutrients and energy to different parts of the plant. This causes your plant to go into "overdrive" (in my opinion) and by week 3 of flowering, or whenever the stretch period ends, you should have atleast 5x as many budsites. Be warned not to squeeze too hard and be prepared for a short shock period, if any. You will know if you were successful when there is a kind of "knot" where you inflicted pressure. This knot should be slightly discolored or brown, and very hard.

hope this helps, didn't take me too long once I got started.
I'm growing in a pc box right now... indica. what would be best for me to do in such a small spot 18x18x8???Thanks :eyesmoke:
 

clasonde

Active Member
lst the shit outta her. depending if you are planning a veg period, i would start LST training early, and fim her and tie her down as much as possible. in my grow journal i LST'd my ganesh and hph during a 6 week veg and they are only 16 inches and 18 inches. i only lst'd them in veg and i fimmed them both and got 4 main colas instead of one.
 

Drunkinop420

Active Member
You were talking about moving it outside? do you live in a place that lets you do that? plants grow ALOT taller when they are out doors usually. I would use a grow bag to take it out side.....im not to familiar with the outdoor growing so just hide the hell out of it and try not to to get caught
 

Ledhed

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The OP said it was five weeks now, and he wants to keep it small. Judging by the photo I saw, you're doing that fine right now. It looks healthy, you definitely have the sun there, just let it grow outdoors if you want/can. I've never done it myself, but as everyone else has said, LST is an easy way to keep them short while still producing, as is supercropping.
 

LOKY49er

Member
Wow, awesome information all! Thank you so much. :clap:

I'll start doing all if this in order right now. I am going to try to construct a set up in my closet, I'll put up pictures within the next few days.

Thanks again! +1
 

LOKY49er

Member
Oh and if anyone can please answer my question of if it's okay to put soil above the cotyledons? I've asked this before and nobody has responded. Thanks.
 

LOKY49er

Member
Okay now what if the first set of real leaves above the cotyledons shriveled up? Would it be fine to put soil above them as well?
 

LOKY49er

Member
Well I clipped them, hoping maybe they would grow back, but they didn't, I will bury them almost to the top of the jug I have them in.
 

LOKY49er

Member
She seems to be growing faster, but I haven't done anything different. It was growing at about 1 node a week, I think she might pull off two this time. Oh and I noticed that with each new node the leaves get bigger, is this normal? LOL
 

LOKY49er

Member
Here is two pictures of her now at Day 49. I'm thinking after maybe two more nodes our when it gets to be about a foot tall, I am going to start LST. Anyone have experience with this technique?
 

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