First Grow

See the pics. One is doing incredible. Somehow my Cheese started flowering... not sure why... it's 18/6. I wonder if they accidentally gave me an autoflower? Not sure, but I wonder how it will continue to flower when I have it on 18/6 (no other room atm). When should I start those flower nutes again? I shut off my res, I think it was effed up with too much nutes and probably algae too. It's empty now, I will try to hand water from now on, but what can I do about those net pots? Can I plant them into the soil and have it grow? Should I risk transplanting or just continue to water it in it's current state?

Also, the root rot on the one is much better now. I scrubbed it with 3% H202 on a toothbrush. It was black and it's a little thinner than the stem above it, but it looks better. Transplanted it into soil and covered the hydroblock with soil to kill the algae. Do you still want to see the rot to see if it's worth keeping?

Sivine...Your plant's on the whole look GREAT>>>>look's like you definately have an auto...just ignore light schedule she will bloom when ready 18/6 just mean's to an auto more light more time to fill the bud sites!!..0103,0098,look awesome...105 when you transplant burry stem to just below first set of leave's for strength...you can replant all of these in soiless mix or soil..the one's in net pot's just burry pot so no light has access to the root's and your all set (May break plastic as it grow's ..but..) Plant's look fine.. pic not neccesary of stem as you are definately right about the root's...I notice spot's from ?water on leave's?? you should mist them early am with plain water two or three time's to clean off the stomata (under leave's like our pore's) so that plant can asperate (transfer Co2!) and photosinthesize properly! see pic for the size the plant should be at this age under ideal condition's try to understand what the plant's react favorably to..light, moisture (just not wet feet!), and not so much light that they cower and stunt! Keep temp's down to stop them from getting lanky and not being productive...you may have set your grow back (on Two) a couple of week's but oh well live and learn. The hardest one's to grow and somtime's the weakest produces are somtime's the most incredible smoke (some stress is benificial)..don't give-up!!!jack

The 2 in the first couple pictures are gone now. They continued to wither and I knew they were gonners. The stem was about 1/3 - 1/4 left after the rot. Hoping this doesn't happen to my other plants and I will be preventing algae buildup in the future. The one in 0097 is doing incredibly well, far better than the rest. A real model plant. Another has some slight yellowing on the branches below the top, not sure if it's too little water or too much? The White Widow is also exploding with growth. Any of them clone-ready? The 2 big ones look like they are close (Lady Purple and Madness).

NO you want at least4-5 internode's before you take the top to clone and if you wait after you top it 2-3 week's you can take 4-6 clone's...try to keep at the same height so plant's are even at the canopy will make growing much easier!! You should cut watering down, slow down the grow (give less light) so you have time to react to problem's grow slow and steady don't rush and make sure of any reaction's you make..keep log note problem's (don't want to repeat) let media dry between watering's and watch closely, (they will tell you when they need something you must understand!! Yellow bottom leave's are low nitrogen add small amount's you can allway's add more but a nute burn is deadly!! go slow be sure what you do...figure out what is going on be pro active not reactive ie spray for bug's before you get any spray for mold mildew before flowering!!understand? take care of problem's before and never happen's!!add ca-mg when bloom start's don't wait for plant to stunt due to lacking micronutrient's...They should all be exploding now they just need you to let there feet dry out before they fall down!!wishing you only the best my friend!! jack

hey sivine, plants are looking good so far. just a couple comments.

you want to get that 600w light closer than 3-4 feet eventually. do it over the course of the next 2 weeks. this will help prevent stretching. i keep my 600w lights as close as 8" without any problems. move it a few inches closer to the plants every couple days over the next 2 weeks. this will give the plants time to harden off.

for your plants in soil i would put them on a feed, feed, water schedule. fox farms nutes are like most and can cause salt buildups. using a schedule like this will help you keep the plants healthy. for the ones in hydro i would feed them for a week and then give them 1-2 days of just water and then start feeding again. in your hydro setup try and keep your water temps around 65 degrees and change the reservoir once a week. this will help you avoid any problems with algae and slime. you can use frozen water bottles to help cool the res.

the plants in soil will take a little longer to dry out at this point cause they don't have a fully developed root system and aren't drinking as much water. try and let the soil get dry to around an inch below the surface before you water again. also, a few hours or the next day after a watering try and mix up the top soil to keep it from caking. this will also help the pots dry out more evenly.

if you are going to spray or mist your plants (which i don't recommend except for pest control) then do it right before your lights turn off or take your plants out from under your lights and let them completely dry before putting them back. leaving moisture on the leaves while they are under the lights can cause burn and other issues.

i feed my plants veg nutes for the first 14 days of 12/12. after day 7 i will start adding a little of my bloom nutes for a PK boost. the first few weeks your plants are still in a vegetative mode and will benefit more from MH lighting and veg nutes. also, don't just add cal/mag. wait to see if your plants start to become deficient first. run just the base nutes that you have and then look and see if you need anything. certain strain will run fine without additional cal/mag and some nutes actually have sufficient cal/mag. don't start adding things till you see what your plants need after you've jsut fed them the base nutes.

get yourself a pH/ppm meter when you can. measuring nutes by dosages (i.e. 1/4 or 1/2 strength) is just not the way it's meant to be done. being able to control the ppm of your nutrients throughout all phases of growth is the key to getting the most out of your crops.

let me know if you have any questions. here's some pics for ya. you'll notice no signs of deficiency, no yellowing leaves, no stretchy stems, etc... this is important to getting the most out of your plants. they should remain healthy throughout the entire grow. anytime you see deficiencies like yellow leaves it means they aren't healthy and therefore aren't giving all they can. don't worry about yields for now. try and keep them healthy for the entire cycle. go easy on the nutes and wait for the plants to tell you they need more. won't be long before you're growing them like this. good luck.

these are the 6 girls i have in veg right now. i've had to pull them out of the tent a few times in the last couple days cause i'm making some upgrades and swapping out a 2hp chiller for a 3hp one. these girls are 5 weeks in this pic. they've been topped and LST'd. they'll be going to flower in the next few days as soon as i finish up some plants.
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these 6 girls are day 10 of 12/12 in this pic. still under MH light and getting veg nutes with a PK boost (part B of my bloom formula).
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these are the girls i'm finishing up in flower. day 55.
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Beautiful plants and great advice! Thanks! I am still concerned about the stem rot though. Some of the ones in flowering don't look like they are dying but they have a little stem rot. Can I just cover it with soil and hope it goes away or do I need to spray something on it/scrub it away? I'm also wondering if my hydro nutes will work with soil as well? Using Fox Farm nutes, been mixing them VERY lightly (15-30 ML or less every feeding of each). This is probably why they grew so slowly! I have upped the mix and they are growing a lot more.

I am also curious as to how to mix the nutes for my flowering plants. I heard if nutes aren't combined correctly they can result in nute lockout and I want to prevent that if possible. I also need to keep a much better grow log!

SivineDativa said:

Beautiful plants and great advice! Thanks! I am still concerned about the stem rot though. Some of the ones in flowering don't look like they are dying but they have a little stem rot. Can I just cover it with soil and hope it goes away or do I need to spray something on it/scrub it away? I'm also wondering if my hydro nutes will work with soil as well? Using Fox Farm nutes, been mixing them VERY lightly (15-30 ML or less every feeding of each). This is probably why they grew so slowly! I have upped the mix and they are growing a lot more.

I am also curious as to how to mix the nutes for my flowering plants. I heard if nutes aren't combined correctly they can result in nute lockout and I want to prevent that if possible. I also need to keep a much better grow log!

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which is the picture of the stem rot? i don't see any pics of it so it's really hard to tell what you are talking about. your hydro nutes will work fine in soil. i'm just worried about how much you are feeding them and what combinations. you can cause lockout by having too much of certain nutes but more importantly i'd be worried about burn and deficiencies. you are using the fox farms trio? are you following their feeding schedule?

Damnit, 0097 just toppled over and is hanging on by a stem thread. I can't get why it had stem rot when it was doing so well and now it looks like it's going to die! It was the best one of the bunch, i'm so fucking pissed off! I just don't fucking get it! :S

EDIT: It's probably dead. Very unhappy! Why the hell are the stems rotting? Is it the algae that causes it? Should I just bury the stems that show signs of rot?

Another one just dropped, the one right next to it that had the bottom yellowing leaves. I propped it back up and covered the stem to see if it survives. I'm getting very done with hydro. It only creates more problems. None of the soil plants have any signs of stem rot...

EDIT: I think this one's a gonner. Leaves are already starting to droop. Apparently it is caused by overwatering but the roots were incredibly strong and widespread and looked great. It could have been the temperature of the water I was using as I just now started to adjust it and it has been pretty warm usually when I hand-watered them. That could have caused it, since I hear it causes root rot as well (though there was no roots rotting).

To answer your question, I was not following the feeding schedules. I would lightly add nutes every now and again. I think the big problem was overwatering, though I didn't think you could overwater rockwool. I think it happened when I had the circulating system going with watering happening every now and again. Likely made it not able to dry out. I have been using the Fox Farm trio, been working pretty well aside from having to get a calcium supplement. All the others are still looking good.

i'd really like to help you but i'm gonna need to see pics. it's really hard to diagnose problems without seeing pics and knowing exactly what you are feeding them and when. the more info we have to work with the easier it is for us to help you. i'm more than willing to take the time...just need a little help from you.

Hey, sorry for the long break. I got some photos attached of the stem rot that I found. Also, the other photos are of the Pineapple Express coming up on Day 55. It looks like the buds are hardened. Are they ready for harvest? And is it necessary to flush with sledgehammer before harvest?

Bump! Anyone have an idea on whether she's ready to harvest? The buds are really dense/hard. Checked the trichs with a microscope and saw milky/clear trichs. Only a handful of ambers. Is it ripe? Advice is appreciated. Thank you!