First Grow

Hey everyone, first time grower and i've been seeing fantastic results with a soil mixture i roughly based off both revs/subcools with what supplies i had on hand. I posted the exact recipe i used in the Organic section roughly 2 months ago. However i started to run into slight burn on the tips of leaves and a few other spots on both newer and older growth on all three strains that are being grown. However im not 100% sure since this is my first grow. All three plants are 1 month, 1 week old. They've been vegged under t5's for first three weeks and for the last two weeks i've had 2 under 1000 watts mh and rotated 1 around every 3 days under the florescent.

Cotton Candy is the least affected and only shows symptoms on newer leaves. Its planted in a 3 gallon smart pot with 1/3 super soil with 2/3 a mixture of 3 cups Roots organic to 1 cup worm castings and 1/2 cup perlite. I use the same Roots Organic mixture with the other 2 strains so i wont add them in the following times.

Cheese is also has a light case of some burn or another problem. Its affected both newer and older growth. It was planted in a 3 gallon smart pot with 1/2 super soil to 1/2 Roots mixture.

Jack Herer is definitely the most troubled plant at the moment but it still completely healthy in all regards. The leaves are really drooping but i contribute it to it not having water in 3 days and i had just watered all the plants 3 hours prior. Theres an 18 inch fan directly 2.3 feet in front of the plant. So im thinking that might be playing a roll. Was planted in 1/2 super soil to 1/2 roots mixtures. In a 3 gallon smart pot

I am starting to feel the mixture might be to strong. I might add it was allowed to cook thoroughly for 1 1/2 months. And i probably should have put the jack in 1/3 super soil mix. None of those plants have ever been flushed. Ive never ph'd and nothing external has been added (yet, possibly)

I also have an AACT that is brewing, its an all purpose tea about to be finished in 4 hours, but i feel i might just pour it out if all my plants are showing slight burn.

What do you all think?

Jack Herer: Jack Jack Cotton Candy CC Cheese


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Yo,
So first thing that comes in mind is, how long has the soil cooked (composted) for?

are you using hard water or RO water?

And post the recipe one more time that you used so we can evaluate.

I can almost guarnetee your soil is too hot and probley not cooked right.....


also, i really really hate to break it too you, but by looking at your pictures, u may have spider mites. Look under you leaves and look closely for clusters of yellow white critters. Hopefully im wrong.

If you are serious about growing and findig out whats wrong, anwser my questions, and once you are done, go to https://www.rollitup.org/organics/636057-recycled-organic-living-soil-rols.html and GET ON READIN (last time i checked about 200 pages)

dont let this discourage you, its all about live and learn

Definite insect infestation....im thinking thrips...

Those little yellow spots look like mite damage to me more so than a nute problem. Honestly the plants don't look that bad to me, I think if you just let them grow they will work it out. Don't go doin that flushing bullshit or try to "correct the ph" of organic soil. You will need to do something about those mites though, perhaps neem oil?

Thanks to all of you for responding. It came to my attention that i do in fact have mites. I noticed the day my plant started to show a decay in leaf matter and mites never crossed my mind. It looks like its still early on and there are practically no webs visible on the plants except for the Jack Herer.

What are your guys favorite trusted method for getting rid of mites? I have heard good things about neem oil and like how its a cheap solution to the problem.

Have any of you tried Azamax? My buddy has some laying around but im not sure if its natural... Hes in a full body suit with goggles and everything right now dealing with the same problem. Is that really necessary when handling azamax? Doesnt sound good to me

Foreverfli ive allowed the soil to cook for 1 month and one week exactly before the initial transplant. I've used distilled water for the first two weeks then switched to tap water for the last three weeks. We have notoriously soft water and no fluoride is added except for levels natural in nature. I also use rain water whenever permitted as it is an abundant resource here.

I really do appreciate everyone's help

-Speciosa

Speciosa said:

What are your guys favorite trusted method for getting rid of mites? I have heard good things about neem oil and like how its a cheap solution to the problem.

Have any of you tried Azamax? My buddy has some laying around but im not sure if its natural... Hes in a full body suit with goggles and everything right now dealing with the same problem. Is that really necessary when handling azamax? Doesnt sound good to me

Foreverfli ive allowed the soil to cook for 1 month and one week exactly before the initial transplant. I've used distilled water for the first two weeks then switched to tap water for the last three weeks. We have notoriously soft water and no fluoride is added except for levels natural in nature. I also use rain water whenever permitted as it is an abundant resource here.

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I like Neem oil (foliar) and neem granules (blended (in blender with fresh aloe and fulvic powder and water) and foliared and soil drenched)

I dont have Azamax where i am...so no comment....

Do you have chlorine or chloramine in your tap water?

Our 2013 water report states that "total chlorine residual" was detected at a minimum of <.1 parts per million and the maximum detected was 2.2 parts per million. There was no mention of any chloramine.

I'll take a further look into neem oil, it seems like a proven method for getting rid of the little pests

Just a general tip for next time (not related to the mite problem). If the soil is too hot, you'll get problems right away when you put plants in it. If the issues don't really start up for a month or so, you can be fairly confident that you're dealing with deficiency, not burn.

Calcium and potassium deficiencies are often confused with nutrient burn (and vice versa).

Hey not to be a downer with no hope, but you have a infestation, and even worse a spider mite infestation, unless your planning on vegging for the next 2-4 months and your willing to battle spider mites, then more power too you, but from experience, its not worth it, start over is my advise

Dump extra worm casting in your mix, add a couple worm teas to speed up the process. Cook the mix for a extra month/

I feel like i've caught it relatively early on. So might as well try something before possibly scrapping it. Im going to look up a recipe to make a worm casting tea since i have all the supplies at my disposal.

Im also going to mix up a gallon of warm water with 2 tablespoons of neem oil and spray them every 3 days. Hopefully it'll deal with them

Well keep this in mind, its not ony about what u spray on them, or how to prevent pest, its also about correcting the enviroment that these little bastards like to thrive in.

but trust me man, u didnt catch them early, judging by your pics they have been there for awhile now. Ur going to need more then neem, ur going to need garlic, cillantro and other organic pesticides. Or go to hydro store and buy mighty wash. Just my two cents good luck