theloadeddragon
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your first time you may want to just stay safe 
Microbes should help though........ its all up to you buddy
Microbes should help though........ its all up to you buddy 
First Med Coco Grow - finished
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#1Raiderfan420
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your first time you may want to just stay safe
What kind of anwer is that? LOL I hear ya. I will probably not add anything outside the house and garden chart unless the ladies ask for it. I do still have some yellowing on the tallest colas fans( only one cola)..I thought it was too close to the light, but I raised them up, they are 14"above now, but didn't seem to fix it. I understand that the a/b has all the cal/mag they should need, but I don't know what else it be.
bender420
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Hey bro,
Currently I am using (www.dutch-glory.com) Cashcrop nutes. But they are quite expensive. Double, triple the price of other nutes such as H&G. Since you are getting excellent results with H and G nutes I will probably run them the next run.
What made you decide on H and G nutes? I have heard great positive reviews but i cannot seem to find what exactly is in the additives.
Does H and G have any additives with humic/fulvic acid?
Sorry if I am bothering you with too many questions.
Currently I am using (www.dutch-glory.com) Cashcrop nutes. But they are quite expensive. Double, triple the price of other nutes such as H&G. Since you are getting excellent results with H and G nutes I will probably run them the next run.
What made you decide on H and G nutes? I have heard great positive reviews but i cannot seem to find what exactly is in the additives.
Does H and G have any additives with humic/fulvic acid?
Sorry if I am bothering you with too many questions.
#1Raiderfan420
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Bro, you never have to apologize for asking me questions. I have received so much advice from people on here, I am happy to share any knowledge I aquire.
-cocos a is derived from calcium nitrate,ammonium nitrate, potassium hydroxide, and nitric acid
-cocos b is derived from potassium hydroxide, nitric acid, phosphoric oxide anhydride, magnesium sulfate
-drip clean is derived from phosphoric acid and potassium oxide and bonds with salt to avoid lock up
-root excel is derived from ammonium nitrate and potassium hydroxide adn protects the roots from root disease and root rot
-multi zen is derived from potassium hydroxide, ammonium nitrate, nitric acid and helps break down nutrients for absorbtion.
-budxl is derived from potassium hydroxide, ammonium nitrate, nitric acid and is is a flowering stim that moves sugar from the plant to the bud
-top booster is derived from potassium hydroxide and phosphoric acid anhydride and contains 13% phosphorous, 14% potassium and chelated iron and helps trigger the aggressive flowering period
-shooting power is derived from potassium sulfate, potassium carbonate, potassium phosphate and is a bud expander
-I also used magic green fioler spray.
whew that took a minute
I chose H&G because I am using coco coir and the two favorites of coco growers are cana and h&g. I have a freind who's mom owns a hydro shop and has grown in coco for a long time. She recommended it to me, so I chose it for my first grow.. Their most popular products are root excelerator and shooting power. The root excel is rediculous.. root explosion! The shooting power I haven't got to yet. I have only really used the a/b, multizyme, magic green and drip clean and it's fairly simple simple. You don't need cal/mag or extra nitrogen it is all in the a/b.
I am starting the budxl this week and will start the top booster shooting power 3 weeks out. I can't wait to use the shooting power, I hear it is amazing. If this grow finshed the way it started I will not change a thing. If it isn't broke..well you know.
I think the synergy between the coco coir and the H&G cocos nute is excellent. I use the B'cuzz premium coco coir with smart pots.
Sorry for the long answer
#1Raiderfan420
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I found some bugs
So I was checking the top of the coco and looked very closely and saw these little fuckers crawling around. They don't move fast and are very small and hard to see. I have identified them as root aphids
the little fuckers are hard to get rid of too and feed on the roots. So I picked up some organic - biolink surfactant and penetrant wetting agent. I mixed it in my nutes and am going to hit those little fuckers with this garlic and yucca extract which is supposed to kill the little bastards.
Here are some pics
This is a pic of the coco.. looks ok right?
Well look a little closer, there are two in this pic,, one toward the left side and one toward the right.
Here's another in the center of this pic
and another in the center of this pic
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#1Raiderfan420
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Thanks Bro. It is my fault for telling my wife yesterday how lucky we were having no bug probs..I jinkst myself
Hopefully this biolink penatrant works. I added 750mls of it to my 55 gal res and watered them until it was empty..a little over 4 gal for every 7 gal pot. that is about double what I normal water. I also saw that damn centepede looking thing, its still there and is growing. I don't think it is harmful to the plants, but it is a ugly fast little fucker..maybe he is feeding on the aphids. Anyway, my now friend at the hydro shop( because I spend so much time there) said he had aphids last year and used this to get rid of them. He said that he uses it every feeding and hasn't had a problem since. If they are indeed aphids then they are usually hard to get rid of so I hope this works. I will definatley need to bomb and bleach the shit out of the room before the next girls go in.
bender420
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Sorry to hear bout the bug problem. BTW don't beat yourself over jinxing, u telling your wife wouldn't make bugs appear.
Sorry i am not much help in that infestation department, seems u are doing your research already. I will follow and prepare in case my girls get infested.
Sorry i am not much help in that infestation department, seems u are doing your research already. I will follow and prepare in case my girls get infested.
bender420
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Bro, you never have to apologize for asking me questions. I have received so much advice from people on here, I am happy to share any knowledge I aquire.
-cocos a is derived from calcium nitrate,ammonium nitrate, potassium hydroxide, and nitric acid
-cocos b is derived from potassium hydroxide, nitric acid, phosphoric oxide anhydride, magnesium sulfate
-drip clean is derived from phosphoric acid and potassium oxide and bonds with salt to avoid lock up
-root excel is derived from ammonium nitrate and potassium hydroxide adn protects the roots from root disease and root rot
-multi zen is derived from potassium hydroxide, ammonium nitrate, nitric acid and helps break down nutrients for absorbtion.
-budxl is derived from potassium hydroxide, ammonium nitrate, nitric acid and is is a flowering stim that moves sugar from the plant to the bud
-top booster is derived from potassium hydroxide and phosphoric acid anhydride and contains 13% phosphorous, 14% potassium and chelated iron and helps trigger the aggressive flowering period
-shooting power is derived from potassium sulfate, potassium carbonate, potassium phosphate and is a bud expander
-I also used magic green fioler spray.
whew that took a minute
I chose H&G because I am using coco coir and the two favorites of coco growers are cana and h&g. I have a freind who's mom owns a hydro shop and has grown in coco for a long time. She recommended it to me, so I chose it for my first grow.. Their most popular products are root excelerator and shooting power. The root excel is rediculous.. root explosion! The shooting power I haven't got to yet. I have only really used the a/b, multizyme, magic green and drip clean and it's fairly simple simple. You don't need cal/mag or extra nitrogen it is all in the a/b.
I am starting the budxl this week and will start the top booster shooting power 3 weeks out. I can't wait to use the shooting power, I hear it is amazing. If this grow finshed the way it started I will not change a thing. If it isn't broke..well you know.
I think the synergy between the coco coir and the H&G cocos nute is excellent. I use the B'cuzz premium coco coir with smart pots.
Sorry for the long answer
I forgive you for your longs answer
Thank you so much for your the info, i greatly appreciate it. I notice there isn't any fulvic acid in HnG nutes line up.
Is the shooting powder actually a powder. I ask because I only mix 5-10 gallons at a time. Once I open the packet, do I have to use the whole thing fast.
bender420
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I found some info on mixing less than 25 gallons water with shooting powder.
Copied from humboldt wholesale . com
How do I use Shooting Powder if I'm trying to mix less than 25 gallons of feed water?
Here's the trick: Fill a one gallon container (like an old bottled water or cleaned out milk jug) 2/3 full with luke-warm water and add one sachet of Shooting Powder to it. The Shooting Powder will fizz and bubble. Wait for the fizzing to slow, and then top off the water. Put the lid on the container and shake to ensure the Shooting Powder is fully dissolved. This gallon is now an impromptu Shooting Powder concentrate.
Now, you can add 151ml of your new Shooting Powder concentrate per gallon of feed water! It's just that easy
Copied from humboldt wholesale . com
How do I use Shooting Powder if I'm trying to mix less than 25 gallons of feed water?
Here's the trick: Fill a one gallon container (like an old bottled water or cleaned out milk jug) 2/3 full with luke-warm water and add one sachet of Shooting Powder to it. The Shooting Powder will fizz and bubble. Wait for the fizzing to slow, and then top off the water. Put the lid on the container and shake to ensure the Shooting Powder is fully dissolved. This gallon is now an impromptu Shooting Powder concentrate.
Now, you can add 151ml of your new Shooting Powder concentrate per gallon of feed water! It's just that easy
bender420
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Sorry for spamming, but here is another thing I found about HG nutes, i am very happy about this one.
Why does the feed chart say "Never use an oxygen pump in the nutrient container or on the growth table."
This is an error on the feed chart. We have tested House & Garden extensivly in aeroponic, deep water culture, and ebb & flow hydroponic systems with great success. We have done side-by-side test runs with two ebb & flow tables, where the only difference was the addition of air pumps in the reservoir. There were no differences in the results.
Finally, we have tested Roots Excelurator in aeroponic cloners such as the EZ Cloner and Power Cloner with wonderful results. So go ahead and use an air pump if you wish.
Why does the feed chart say "Never use an oxygen pump in the nutrient container or on the growth table."
This is an error on the feed chart. We have tested House & Garden extensivly in aeroponic, deep water culture, and ebb & flow hydroponic systems with great success. We have done side-by-side test runs with two ebb & flow tables, where the only difference was the addition of air pumps in the reservoir. There were no differences in the results.
Finally, we have tested Roots Excelurator in aeroponic cloners such as the EZ Cloner and Power Cloner with wonderful results. So go ahead and use an air pump if you wish.
#1Raiderfan420
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Funny, by the time I checked your post you already answered your own questions
Oh and if you didn't find it already the shooting power is powder.Sounds like your all caught up on H&G now.
Yeah, I was worried about this one too, because I have air pumps to circulate my res. I e-mailed house and garden and they responded with the same answer you posted here. The H&G dealer didn't even know this one until I shared my e-mail information with them.
bender420
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Yea I like to use the air pump as that keeps everything mixed nice and even. So I only mix the nute once every 2 weeks or so.Funny, by the time I checked your post you already answered your own questions
Sounds like your all caught up on H&G now.
Yeah, I was worried about this one too, because I have air pumps to circulate my res. I e-mailed house and garden and they responded with the same answer you posted here. The H&G dealer didn't even know this one until I shared my e-mail information with them.
do u think i could add shooting power to my current nute regimen, www.dutch-glory.com.
#1Raiderfan420
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You know you probably could. I have heard of several growers that only use the h&g shooting power and root excel products, but I would check out the house and garden thread on here..there is so many pages it's easiest to just post your question. https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/194632-official-house-garden-thread.html
#1Raiderfan420
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Tonight when I went in the room the odor is stronger, but oh so sweet. It smells almost like candy. It always amazes me at how the odor evolves.The buds are starting to fill out a bit and getting more and more crystals.
I spent 15 mins with my face practically in the top of the medium looking for bugs.. I found a larvae of some type, I think it is a fungas gnat larve as I have had a few through the grow, but didn't see any of the aphids. I will continue to treat with the biolink until the last week.
Here's some pics-
I spent 15 mins with my face practically in the top of the medium looking for bugs.. I found a larvae of some type, I think it is a fungas gnat larve as I have had a few through the grow, but didn't see any of the aphids. I will continue to treat with the biolink until the last week.
Here's some pics-
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cdubbnlolo
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way sick!!!!! very pretty babys.. pretty good for ur first grow gotta give u props
#1Raiderfan420
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way sick!!!!! very pretty babys.. pretty good for ur first grow gotta give u props
Thanks Man, I appreciate the compliment. Thanks for stoppin by
theloadeddragon
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I do Just Love how Nuggy Purple Kush is!
bender420
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Tonight when I went in the room the odor is stronger, but oh so sweet. It smells almost like candy. It always amazes me at how the odor evolves.The buds are starting to fill out a bit and getting more and more crystals.
I spent 15 mins with my face practically in the top of the medium looking for bugs.. I found a larvae of some type, I think it is a fungas gnat larve as I have had a few through the grow, but didn't see any of the aphids. I will continue to treat with the biolink until the last week.
Here's some pics-
bummpyy bumppp bummpp
Super Sweet Man!!! Looking great.
Definitely way above average for first time grow, hell its great even if i disregard the fact that this is your first.
BooMeR242
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oh such a pretty view haha. buds comin together real nice raider hope it tastes as good as it looks 
idk about that larvae kinda weird but hope it doesnt cause an issue. how high are ur colas above the screen btw? (tryin to follow ur progress in comparrison to mine for future reference)
idk about that larvae kinda weird but hope it doesnt cause an issue. how high are ur colas above the screen btw? (tryin to follow ur progress in comparrison to mine for future reference)