First Post, First Grow: OG Kush, Blueberry Kush

Hey guys, thanks for welcoming me into your community! So I'm going to dive in with the details before its "lights out" for the girls so I can put any advice you all may have into effect this evening... **Please Feel to Comment or give advice on any of these parts, any help is greatly appreciated**

Heres the Story:

I've been wanting to do my own growing for years now and would start getting it together, but never really got serious. Well, now I've finally got the space and someone gave me 2 plants the day I bought my equipment. I was expecting to start with babies, and surprise! the guy drops off 2 females, in flowering phase, each over 3 1/2 feet tall. Yikes! Well, the guy who gave them to me only smokes weed, and knows nothing about how to grow it so when he picked up these plants for me he failed to get ANY information on the previous growing set-up. Kind of a lot for a first grow, but I did a lot of research so hopefully (with your help, of course) I will still be able to get some smokeable buds from these ladies . I also am attempting to clone these gals, but I'll talk about that next post because it's the big plants I'm most worried about right now.

Setup/Nutrients:

1. 600W HPS bulb/ballast
2. Rectangular reflector
3. Oscillating fan
4. 24 hr timer/thermometer/humidity monitor
5. General Hydroponics brand FloraMicro 5-0-1 and FloraBloom 0-5-4
6. Indoor closet, 27.5" wide, 36.5" deep, 106" high



Plants:

1. OG Kush
1. Blueberry Kush

These are the Blueberry Kush Plant. (I'll address issues in a moment):



And Here's the OG Kush:



Ok, now, here's what I need help with:

1. How many weeks into flowering do you estimate these are, and what should I expect in the near future? (I'm on 12/12 right now)
2. I tested pH yesterday when I got these, and it read 3. Can that be right?! I added some tap water and a sprinkle of baking soda as a pH up. any other suggestions?
3. Leaf yellowing and curling: The light was hanging too low and I didn't have a fan or thermometer yesterday, but I know it was way too hot. Now with the door cracked open Humidity is at 53% and temp is at 81 degrees F. How are these numbers? Should I keep the fan on the floor pointing up, or mounted up pointing down?
4. I would like to water and try nutrients but have no idea about last watering/use of nutes. Given what I have at the moment, any suggestions? Soil was moist yesterday, but they suffered high heats yesterday so it's pretty dry now. I did mist the leaves with plain water.
5. Stretching: These girls are stretching big time, they grew almost 4" in one day. I put a piece of string on the OG branch that was going up quickest and have it pulled a little to the side and pinned to the wall on a thumbtack. Any help with training ( I know it's late in the cycle), trimming/cutting off leaves, pruning etc. is needed.

Thank you so much so far, I look forward to sharing this experience with you!

Oh yea, any strain specific info would be MUCH appreciated =)

these plants are tall and thin. Kush should become very dense later in flower. i would do some research on a full line of nutrients, but the Gen Hydro is a good start. you can go to the company's website for specific product information and feeding information.
http://www.genhydro.com/genhydro_US/feeding_schedule.html
humidity is not bad, 45 would be better, some would say that it is a little warm, 75 is better. fan should be pointing at thickest part of plants to keep them moving and leaves breathing (JUST SPILLED MY F@*$#ING BONG) Don't even bother trimming or topping this grow. worry about that on your clones.

i dont know about all that, id say flush the crap out of those things with 3 to five times the amount of water/dirt and do so slowwly (i suggest taking something like a water or coke bottle and stabbing the bottle with an ice pick and just setting it on the soil and filling it up every time it empties during one of the night cycles) and then start your nutes two or three days later when you water again(your gonna drain the soil so you can us a heavy amount but not for the first time or two mabye a 3/4 strength then move up to mabye 1 1/2 if your gals can take it but work it slowly and LEARN about your plants from what they are telling you) i wouldnt think that those gals are far beyond a week flowering and it looks like it might have been started with fluorescent or indirect outdoor light keep the water you use at the correct ph and temp (i suggest adding a little something if your nuteing heavy cause of the ph of the nutes) and if you can keep humidity low later on in flowering then i suggest misting semi often and gauge your gals reactions to it, if they perk up then its helping, if the curls continue i would pull some of those that are furthest along and the plant with have to focus on whats left not whats lost, and the stecthing wouldnt be bad except im noticing a distacne between nodes and thats counter productive to any medical quality kolas i would suggest applying slighty pressure beanth some of the top most flowers to induce a bushing up of the ladies, and to be honest looking at those pics agian i would have to say im a little dissapionted (not your fault but its like seeing jews in a pen) with how tiny those pots are. and im sure that your gals could do with a transplanting and you can not i repeat CANNOT clone a flowering plant. the cuttings will fail 60% of the time and if they dont the BEST you could hope for is a little bud half the size it would have been if you let it grow on the stalk. its the SAME thing as putting a rose you cut off granmda kettles rose bush and planted on ol yellers resting place.

painters plastic is TOTALLY not gonna work, you are BEGGING to have moldy carpets. if your renting i could understand not tearing out the floor but after this grow if not during i would get on that quick like.

Sooo I did get a little more info about these gals. Apparently they are an
OG X Blueberry hybrid. Soooo that should be interesting if they make it all of the way through.

you can go to the company's website for specific product information and feeding information.... (JUST SPILLED MY F@*$#ING BONG)

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Thanks for the site Shark, lot's of good info. And WTF, earlier today i dropped my the bowl piece of my beautiful percalator and the bottom snapped off. I hope to hell! I hope I can find a replacement

i wouldnt think that those gals are far beyond a week flowering and it looks like it might have been started with fluorescent or indirect outdoor light

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I found out they were 10 days into flowering when I got them 2 days ago, so that gives me a little more to go with I guess. And I know these were totally indoor, but I don't know about the lighting used, I just know they were given away bc they were stretching and getting too tall for the lights.

your gals could do with a transplanting and you can not i repeat CANNOT clone a flowering plant

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I'm def going to transplant in a few days, I just didn't want to traumatize them all at once . And as far as cloning, I've gotten mixed reviews. The people I know that had success from cloning a flowering plant said they left a low wattage flourescent bulb on 24 hrs for the first few days in order to get them to re-enter veg phase. Bc I like a challenge, I'll give it a try. If they don't root or seem to change phases in a couple of weeks, no biggie.

Alright, so here's the pics of my babies:

*I know the grow block is goofy bc its missing the little middle pod piece you're supposed to use first, but a friend gave the blocks to me for free aaaaand since I wasn't planning on cloning these plants anyway, I figured I would just give it a try as is. I'm using the humidity dome and a 70W flourescent grow light. I used a healthy amount of cloning gel, and saturated the grow blocks with water. I keep the lights on 24 hours bc I'm trying to re-veg these babies from 10 days into flowering, and I open the dome for 10 min a day to let some fresh air in and mist the roots with water mixed lightly with nutes. We shall see how this turns out!

well i am interested in the outcome of this little experiment you got going, please keep posting and i hope for nothing but the happiest of harvests. stay medicated.

Thanks, Moser. So the little Kushberry ladies are looking much better. From what I've calculated, I'm at about week 3 1/2 of the flowering phase, does this seem right to you guys? These pics were taken on 12/25/2010 (sorry about the quality):




Here are a couple of pictures of some problem leaves, any suggestions (I raised the light and there are far less yellowed leaves)? I checked the pH from the soil run-off and it's at 6.5. I still need to transplant, and I'm also going to get an exhaust set-up for my reflector.

So I got a couple of better quality pics. I'm still having issues with a few of the leaves, but overall I'm learning a lot and am pleased that a week into my first grow I haven't killed my plants yet. I am slightly concerned about the fact that the leaves are a lighter green/yellowish around the bud sites. Any possible reasons for this? I'm also getting pretty excited to try some of this smoke. I'm hoping to get a decent yield, especially because I only started with 2 plants and from what I've heard this hybrid strain is pretty legit. I started 4 more clones, but I'll post about my experiment with the babies in another thread.

MAGNIFICENT!!! i totally thought you pulled a switcharoo with how much nicer those gals are looking and as for age of flowers you got on the 21 or 20th and their were ten days then so i would say 2 and a half weeks. and for the size of buddlets you got that looks about right for sativa plants (those freaking trees aren't indca NO WAY NO HOW) and as for the lighter green almost yellow around your buds...their flowers...some turn purple or pink or white or blue or a darker green or a dark yellow. its just another way for the plant to attract the attention of any pollen totting bugs or birds or hell even small mammals that might knock her up a bit. so the color change=good goodness. it means that the horomones in your plant are correct and it wont be retarded/stunted in its continued growth due to bad genetics. as for the leaf problems, some of them just wont be able to make it back to par without scars or damage from whatever stresses cause your plant to look all boned in the first place and all i can suggest is pulling the ones that look really bad


(P.S. IF YOU HAVE FEW LEAVES THEN THINK HARD ABOUT WETHER OR NOT ITS FOR THE BEST OF THE PLANT TO CHOP IT OFF)

and as for it being kush berry i really really really doubt it, thats a sativa plant 100% and its gonna take a long time to get a good harvest indoor but if done right will be SO much more rewarding. i am noticing tiny tiny white dots on some of your leaves and it looks almost like spider mite bites. did you know the guy you got it from??? i know some commercial growers sell spider mited clones or deformed clones so that they wont have any competition in their market, so if you bought them *tear*. but i would look CLOSELY at the underside of your leaves and look for eggs or tiny tiny little black or red specks.

i hope i have helped or at least not annoyed . stay medicated.

MAGNIFICENT!!! i totally thought you pulled a switcharoo with how much nicer those gals are looking and as for age of flowers you got on the 21 or 20th and their were ten days then so i would say 2 and a half weeks

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Thanks, no switcharoo, just some major TLC! And as for my "calculations" lol you are correct, I wrote that last post after smoking a half blunt of Mind Bender to the face. Duhhhh note to self: medicate before bed but after trying to formulate a logical posting.

and as for it being kush berry i really really really doubt i

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I keep questioning the genetics of these gals because it doesn't seem like this can be 70% indica either, however my semi-extensive research still has me thinking that there is a possibility that the strain could possibly be what I was told they are. The smell/rate of growth/size/color of buds all match the standard kushberry traits. Also. this strain is 30% sativa and apparently the original Oregon Blueberry Kush strain used to breed this strain is a "stretch-indica" which has a more tall and thin appearance. I've also removed quite a few leaves due to the fact that they were in pretty crappy condition and covering up healthy new growth. I'm going to ease up on the leaf-whacking after my transplant today, however. Sooo bottom line is, we shall see! I won't be too disappointed either way, as long as I end up with something decent I suppose.

i am noticing tiny tiny white dots on some of your leaves and it looks almost like spider mite bites. did you know the guy you got it from???

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The white dots on some of the leaves are actually residue from spraying the leaves. I was tripping off of it at first, but upon further inspection it was all good. I do know the guy I got these plants from, and he is the son of a family friend and has no reason to try and screw me over, he just had no more room for these ladies because of the stretch. So there are no spider mites, but I THINK I HAVE GNATS!!! UGH! I saw a couple buzzing around when I took the plants out to pH test and take pics. So, not to panic, but kind of going to panic...Here are the measures I will be taking today, any other suggestions? Chemicals?

*Transplanting into nice big square pots
*Will be dampening new soil (cocoa), NOT soaking. I'll attempt to not water until top 1-2 inches are dry
*Major disinfection of grow closet
*Sand on top of soil
*Small bowl of vegetable oil in closet
*Fly traps

Thanks again for all of the input. It's a great help so far!!

mind if i ask for an update??? just want to see how there doing

Hey there Dick, updates coming. And a ton of pics!!!

dont tease now... and sorry i didnt say anything about the gnats, i had some problem with them outdoor a few years back and it was fine didnt hinder growth or really effect it much at all. i really cat wait hope things have been good

Alrighty, to start I'll just get generally caught up in this post. I took these pics of the girls on 12/29/10...



These were taken on day 18 (week 2.5) of flowering.

Now here are some photos from 1/4/2011. This puts them at day 24, week 3.5 of flowering. Out of nowhere the Indica traits became very apparent!


Around this time I saw signs of the dreaded spider mite! I had very few, but I took care of the problem right away. i bleached the SHIT out of my entire grow space and used a Hot Shot Pest Strip (bought it for $7 at Home Depot). I was advised from an experienced grower that the strips are good because you don't directly spray any chemicals on the plant and they kill all stages of growth. Sure enough, still no sign of the little fuckers. If anyone wants more info about the use of these strips and how they work as far as growing cannabis, I will be happy to elaborate


And here are some pics from 1/7/2011, day 27 of flowering. I added 4 CFL lights to the lower half of the closet. I had also done some experimenting with correcting nutrient problems. I had over-fertilized, then flushed. Then it seemed that the ladies had a magnesium and zinc deficiency, and possibly lack of sufficient O2 to the roots, so I attempted to correct those issues as well. At this time, the resin really started to glisten on the smaller leaves. So exciting!