clayawesome
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http://rollitup.org/t/two-plant-dwc-easy-3-to-4-pounds-with-2kw.840388/
Here is one example well over 1GPW
Here is one example well over 1GPW
First SCROG failed to impress - how to improve?
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weedenhanced
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Ur talking wet weight yeah?I have one grow under the belt. It was successful, but failed to impress. Indoor, SCROG, 4x6 area, veg with T5’s, flower with 2 1000w HPS. Battled modest spider mite invasion and won. Nipped powdery mildew in the bud. No obvious nute lockout, nor burning. Humidity well controlled, got the harvest time correct, dry/cure, no problem. Grow looked good overall. However, due to one, or a combination of factors, the total dry yield was 18 oz. Too many plants for the area (1or pots too small (3gal), or a few extra- warm days in the room, some light loss in a 4x6 area in a 10x10 room, maybe could have pushed nutes more, I don’t know.
I will have a better handle on those issues, looking for major improvement. Two goals: First, 10 oz per plant. Down the line, 1 lb per plant.
Focusing on the first, is 10 oz per plant in a scrog just a myth or ugly rumor?
If it is possible, how to achieve this goal in the same 4x6 space with the same lights?
Maybe 6 plants in 5 or 7 gal pots? 10 gal pots?
Scrog or LST tie-down style?
I’m going with Green Crack again, it’s Sativa leaning, known to be a good yielder (user error on my part) and fast flowering (true).
I grow mostly for others and would greatly appreciate some advice from experienced growers who get good yields.
Thanks much!
philbu
pk_boosted2
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Noone has ever gotten 2 gpw.. Heath robinson has the record doing vertical grows and he has gotten 3- 3 1/4 lbs per 1k with some strain you cant even get your hands on, you'd have to look it up to find out what it is i forget the name. But he was getting something like 1.6 gpw and thats debated by many people. Have take his word for it but I believe it was authenticated by a few well known sources out in the UK.
I believe that he also said that he was getting better results running duel 600's over the 1k bulbs and has since switched over so having a true measurement per bulb isnt specific.
I think theres a critical hog pheno or a gigabud pheno that claims if you run 5 gal containers at 6 per 1k bulb that you should be able to pull down 3 per light no problem. I got some of this pheno in a pack from TH seeds and G13 Lab a few months ago that i just started and I can let you know if its true in about 3 months lol.
These claim to be over 1000 grams per sq meter. So maybe if someone got the perfect system i would say that 1.5 gpw would b achievable but 2 gpw no fuckin way.
I believe that he also said that he was getting better results running duel 600's over the 1k bulbs and has since switched over so having a true measurement per bulb isnt specific.
I think theres a critical hog pheno or a gigabud pheno that claims if you run 5 gal containers at 6 per 1k bulb that you should be able to pull down 3 per light no problem. I got some of this pheno in a pack from TH seeds and G13 Lab a few months ago that i just started and I can let you know if its true in about 3 months lol.
These claim to be over 1000 grams per sq meter. So maybe if someone got the perfect system i would say that 1.5 gpw would b achievable but 2 gpw no fuckin way.
pk_boosted2
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1 gpw is still considered to be the gold standard but more and more growers are able to get 2.5 lbs per 1k light nowadays so its not that uncommon as it was 5 years ago. Using dwc like the current culture setups in warehouses its easily obtainable to get 2.5 per light no problem. But home growers with limited space and plants is likely that the 2 lbs per light is what makes u an expert grower. If u get 2 per light u r more than good to go as most growers are lucky to get 1 1/14 to 1 1/2 lbs for the most part.
Gquebed
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Do you have a grow journal going? Like to follow along....
TubePot
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I would find a diff strain if I were you.
I was pulling 4 plus pounds with 2-1000 HPS(rockwool) form start to finish and my room was smaller than yours..... Didn't matter if I had 48 plants or 24, still pulled the same give or take a few z's. But the bud was better with less plants and less work too.
Believe it or not.... Good luck.
RM3
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2.25 lbs = 1020.5 gramsI think 2 grams per watt under the 1000 would be 4.4lbs but I'm terrible at math.
pk_boosted2
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Hey bud, wsp nah i dont have a grow journal i post pics here and there throughout some runs if ppl wanna see them.
Im actually switching up all my strains right now and trying few new things out. I primarily ran AN and Canna for past 5 years, but lately all patients and dispensaries I grow for want me to focus strictly on Organics/Veganics. So I actually just got some GH General Organics line up, and im gonna make my own soil mix primarily Sunshine #4, worm castings and small amount of Ancient Forest humus.
My boy actually just got the head growing job down in Connecticut and he has been using the GO strictly at the facility on East Coast Sour Dzl, Bubba X Cheese and Pineapple Fields and has been getting very good results both quality and yield. I was actually very impressed with the output considering running Organics you have to compensate yield for quality (but he told me he has been averaging just around 2 lbs per 1000w light). So Im gonna jump on board and try it out considering the price point compared to Bio-Canna is alot less expensive and I trust this dudes opinions as he really knows his shit. He gave me a few cuts and the recipes he has been using with them and I can post some things as it progresses periodically.
Heres a few pics of my recent grow and my last run using AN Jungle Juice 2 part this was about 4 weeks ago right before I switched to bloom. And i can take some pics this weekend for yah they are roughly 26-28 days into bloom and I will update the photos when I go there on Friday for yah if ur interested.
Ill keep u posted when I go back and show you how they are doing. They r fuckin monsters right now, base stalks you cant even take your pointer finger and thumb and make it around the stalks. I got the recipe for this if anyone wants it. Should get about 7-7.5 lbs off this room its 3 (1000w) HPS and 2 (400w) MH for extra push and supplemental lighting.
pk_boosted2
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Apparently i grow schwag BTW people on here love to hate whenever someone does good. I appreciate the kind words and am here to help BOL and Happy Harvests!
This was the last run of strawberry fields just finishing up the cure right now.
pk_boosted2
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So funny how if u tell any of these dudes that the info they give and shit they tell u to do is wrong then they all wanna gang up on you and talk shit instead of giving respect when its deserved. Half shit on here is useless and not even helpful.
Its also funny that this forum is supposed to be used to help people with problems or give techniques or valid information and whenever someone asks a question especially regarding plant problems all these MASTER growers cant even give anyone a straight answer. They just post links to pictures of deficiencies and problems but cant tell anyone why its happening. I find that shit to be absolutely ridiculous.
Another funny thing is whenever someone says that Canna or AN is good products they all wanna jump down your throat and tell u your stupid for using expensive products because dyna gro is the best. LMAO this shit i posted above was all grown using AN and Botanicare. You pay for what you get I guess Im going against the grain on here because im not a bang wagon clown who dick rides some random ppl on an internet forum who do 1 light closet grows and think they know everything.
Best advise is to only take information from people who can back their shit up with photos and relevant experience and stay away from ppl who re use same photos on every post and tell you that theres only 1 way to do things. Theres so much BS on here and haters its crazy man.
Its also funny that this forum is supposed to be used to help people with problems or give techniques or valid information and whenever someone asks a question especially regarding plant problems all these MASTER growers cant even give anyone a straight answer. They just post links to pictures of deficiencies and problems but cant tell anyone why its happening. I find that shit to be absolutely ridiculous.
Another funny thing is whenever someone says that Canna or AN is good products they all wanna jump down your throat and tell u your stupid for using expensive products because dyna gro is the best. LMAO this shit i posted above was all grown using AN and Botanicare. You pay for what you get I guess Im going against the grain on here because im not a bang wagon clown who dick rides some random ppl on an internet forum who do 1 light closet grows and think they know everything.
Best advise is to only take information from people who can back their shit up with photos and relevant experience and stay away from ppl who re use same photos on every post and tell you that theres only 1 way to do things. Theres so much BS on here and haters its crazy man.
Uncle Ben
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Funny how gpw was started as a joke by potroast many years ago. It is not a valid measurement of anything. Like folks who swear by over priced, low value products like Advanced Shysters and Botanicare, there's a sucker born every minute.
Potroast thought he'd have a little fun. It stuck.
Potroast thought he'd have a little fun. It stuck.
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Gquebed
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I hear what your saying. I think there's a lot of people who post in these grow forums that have done a lot of research, but have never actually grown anything. When they post to help people they just repeat shit they read and sometimes it is incredibly obvious.
It seems like the experienced growers who could give good, useful info are put off by all of that so dont bother posting. Such a shame...
It seems like the experienced growers who could give good, useful info are put off by all of that so dont bother posting. Such a shame...
Gquebed
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Well.... it doesnt account for time so it may be a weak measurement, but it is a guage with some merit...
Uncle Ben
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It has no merit, it's just plain stupid.
No 2 hoods, lamps, spacing above plants are the same. You can not duplicate the factors involved. The gpw of your rust bucket hood and my fancy spec'd out hood of a different profile are not the same as one is placed 2' above the canopy and the other is placed 1' above, one is one brand, the other another brand..... Even the genetics will differ from one to another.
The joke is on you.
Gquebed
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By your other posts you seemed to be a reasonable guy. But this one just shows you to be just another jerkoff who thinks they know everything and everybody else knows nothing....