First time different training methods

Kyzersozay

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Once it fills in a bit more she'll be good for a scroging, drop a screen on her and feed your branches through the holes for a nice even canopy..
 

Tmurrayftw

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Once it fills in a bit more she'll be good for a scroging, drop a screen on her and feed your branches through the holes for a nice even canopy..
Hell yeah I been thinking about getting a net never have used one before I flipped em last week
 

Kyzersozay

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To do it properly you make the canopy even for a about a week then flip It, but you'll.still be ok if you drop now..it won't be even but it will give the support it will need
 

guitarguy10

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Once it fills in a bit more she'll be good for a scroging, drop a screen on her and feed your branches through the holes for a nice even canopy..
You make it sound so easy. I have a screen and the canopy looks like shit, no clear information on how to actually 'feed branches' or overlap, or what to do about the big gap in the middle ... see shitty attached pic.

@Green Refuge here's a good guide to try training before you put them under the net: https://www.growweedeasy.com/lbhs-famous-4-way-lst-tutorial-plus-topping-sub-tutorial

Once you have the net though, fuck if I know, my net doesn't help at all.
 

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Kyzersozay

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So once you put the screen down...you don't want the branches going through the holes..but under them, so you gently move them until you get a uniformed canopy...then qhen you do your flip...you put a second net about about 6-8 inches above the other one..and that will be come your support net...here s a pic...of an even canopy...not my photoScreenshot_20210211-181231_Google.jpgScreenshot_20210211-181713_Google.jpg
 

Tormentedangel420

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When I attempted my first scrog I had some issues trying find out what to do. I did find tidbits of TRULY helpful info out there but doing a few yourself is the best way to understand.
To pass on the helpful tidbits...topping for a "4-way" LST seemed to work best. Let the plant grow up to the screen and through it a few inches. Then take your tops and move them to the next square on your scrog. The next square can be any direction you choose, whatever fills your canopy most ideally. The side branches that grow off your main stems are used the same way to fill in the net.
In my experience, which is not a ton, you will want to flip to flower when the canopy is 80-85% full for an indica and 60-70% full for a sativa. (Roughly). 1 week before flip you will want to clear everything, and I mean everything, that is not touching the net and receiving light.
If done correctly there is no need for a 2nd net. Most pictures you see with 2 nets are NOT a scrog. They are simply trellis used for support.
 

guitarguy10

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I'm trying the 4 way LST with a seed I started but kinda annoyed that I have to go back to seed since I built a cloner and was hoping to just go from clones. But I have found another space for a light so I have just started the seed several weeks before my current harvest is complete so hopefully by the time 8 weeks have passed it will be a big plant. We'll see how it goes, but yeah frustrating ... it's just hard to get good shots with good perspective/depth to explain my issues, or for that matter to have guides that explain the tricks involved.

Anyways, sorry to have hi-jacked your thread, I'm just a bit butthurt at myself for my inability with my current grow (and last grow) to have figured out this SCROG mess.
 

Kyzersozay

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I'm trying the 4 way LST with a seed I started but kinda annoyed that I have to go back to seed since I built a cloner and was hoping to just go from clones. But I have found another space for a light so I have just started the seed several weeks before my current harvest is complete so hopefully by the time 8 weeks have passed it will be a big plant. We'll see how it goes, but yeah frustrating ... it's just hard to get good shots with good perspective/depth to explain my issues, or for that matter to have guides that explain the tricks involved.

Anyways, sorry to have hi-jacked your thread, I'm just a bit butthurt at myself for my inability with my current grow (and last grow) to have figured out this SCROG mess.
Don't get discouraged you'll.figire it out,..just think basket weaving over, under, some might have to be folded back on it self just force the branches where you want them to go, ill post pics of the do si do I'm doing now..but we are only 2 weeks old..
 

guitarguy10

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Don't get discouraged you'll.figire it out,..just think basket weaving over, under, some might have to be folded back on it self just force the branches where you want them to go, ill post pics of the do si do I'm doing now..but we are only 2 weeks old..
My main issue has been that the I can fold the main branch under, but once it reaches the edge of the tent/net ... uh there is nowhere else to fold it under. Also from what I understand (and have tried) you dont want to weave them, in my case at least with indica there is NO WAY to fold a branch under the net and then over it (like weaving) that would require much much larger internodal spacing.
 

Kyzersozay

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My main issue has been that the I can fold the main branch under, but once it reaches the edge of the tent/net ... uh there is nowhere else to fold it under. Also from what I understand (and have tried) you dont want to weave them, in my case at least with indica there is NO WAY to fold a branch under the net and then over it (like weaving) that would require much much larger internodal spacing.
If your netting holes are to big...I use skewers between the holes to keep the branches down..as they grow..move the skwerea to the next area..if you know what I mean
 
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