First time grow, outdoor

something or rather

something or rather

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Hello all I am pretty darn new to this but I have read a good bit on growing. That said there seems to be a lot of conflicting information out there so I don;t know how much I have gotten right.

I am doing a second round of crops on my first grow. I have 3 9 week old chem dawg, 3 1 week old blue dream, and a single 1 week old tahoe og. My chem dawgs are doing fine, tahoe og seems fine too but I am open to criticism on both. I however, seem to have a problem with my blue dreams. All 4 of my 1 week olds just got transplanted 2 days ago from red solo cups. The roots looked good and there were no problems before the transplant. I watered with 1 tsp of super thrive per gallon and moved them from full shade to (nearly) full sun after the transplant. 2 of the blue dreams have started developing dead/dried spots and and soft curled leaves. Is this transplant shock? Too much sun?

General info about my grow

Medium: 50/50 ffof and perlite
Average temp: 85-95 days 60 nights
Light cycle: 14 light/10 dark currently, 12/12 at the very end of september
Containers: 5 5 gallon smart pots and 2 3 gallon plastic pots
PH: run off measured at 6.8 all around pretty much
Water: Its pretty hard but I cant afford an r/o system atm
 

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$bkbbudz$

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Hmmm plants were just over week old and transplanted....Super-thrive introduced into a pretty well buffered but never the less hot soil. IMHO...get others as well please...Transplant shock and nutrient burn. If you agree do some reading around and choose what you feel is the best option.

Oh and if you gave them each a gallon of water...way too much at that age.

I have a question...if you have the ability to grow outdoors...why do you have them in containers?...just curious.:peace:
 
ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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Plus this is a bit late for putting out plants. Hope you live in a warm area or they may not finish if you live somewhere with frosts. Most all plants are just about to flower or already are.
Btw the 12/12 thing does not apply to outdoors grows.
 
something or rather

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$bkbbudz$ said:
Hmmm plants were just over week old and transplanted....Super-thrive introduced into a pretty well buffered but never the less hot soil. IMHO...get others as well please...Transplant shock and nutrient burn. If you agree do some reading around and choose what you feel is the best option.

Oh and if you gave them each a gallon of water...way too much at that age.

I have a question...if you have the ability to grow outdoors...why do you have them in containers?...just curious.:peace:
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Some clarifications regarding my original post. They are a week old from the dispensary, bought them as clones and I'm not sure how long they were sitting there. I believe they were ready for transplant because the roots were showing on all sides when I slid them out of the red solo cup.They only got about a half gallon each (more for the 5 gallons less for the 3 gallons), the super thrive concentration was at 1 tsp per gallon.

I think you are right about the nute burn, I will look into solutions.

I grow in containers because the soil around here is really shitty, hard clay, rocks, roots everywhere (a lot of trees). I read that the less competition in the soil they reside the better for it.

ganga gurl420 said:
So if you moved them from shade to sun without introducing a little direct sun for a few hours a day then it could be burnt from not hardening them off.
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I didn't know that you needed a transitional stage between shade and sun, I thought that once a plant was well established/old enough it would be fine in full sun. I will keep that in mind, thank you. They have been in the sun for 3 days now, do you think it's too late to do anything about that?

ganga gurl420 said:
Plus this is a bit late for putting out plants. Hope you live in a warm area or they may not finish if you live somewhere with frosts. Most all plants are just about to flower or already are.
Btw the 12/12 thing does not apply to outdoors grows.
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There is no chance of a frost until december, some years we don't even get one. I am aware that these would likely be runty but I was emboldened by my 3 chem dawgs making it this far and the thought of making it through the winter wholly on my on grow (like peasants in olden times :lol:) was very attractive.

If 12/12 doesn't apply to outdoor how does a plant know when to flower outside?
 
Indacouch

Indacouch

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IMO your biggest issues that I see are one like mentioned above you need to harden your girls off next time to get them use to the sun ....which is obviously much more intense than the grow lights there were use to before ......also for future reference there's no need to add anything to ffof soil it's got enough food in it for a good bit for your plants ........also ffof soil buffers itself so you don't have to worry about ph .....you can let your water sit in a bucket if your using tap water for a few days so it evaporates the chlorine ........I have a tank that I refill each time I water so it sits a few days before I water again ........but if that is not an option I have no problems watering straight out of the hose .........just practice good watering techniques is all you can do at this point ......good luck
 
ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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something or rather said:
Some clarifications regarding my original post. They are a week old from the dispensary, bought them as clones and I'm not sure how long they were sitting there. I believe they were ready for transplant because the roots were showing on all sides when I slid them out of the red solo cup.They only got about a half gallon each (more for the 5 gallons less for the 3 gallons), the super thrive concentration was at 1 tsp per gallon.

I think you are right about the nute burn, I will look into solutions.

I grow in containers because the soil around here is really shitty, hard clay, rocks, roots everywhere (a lot of trees). I read that the less competition in the soil they reside the better for it.


I didn't know that you needed a transitional stage between shade and sun, I thought that once a plant was well established/old enough it would be fine in full sun. I will keep that in mind, thank you. They have been in the sun for 3 days now, do you think it's too late to do anything about that?


There is no chance of a frost until december, some years we don't even get one. I am aware that these would likely be runty but I was emboldened by my 3 chem dawgs making it this far and the thought of making it through the winter wholly on my on grow (like peasants in olden times :lol:) was very attractive.

If 12/12 doesn't apply to outdoor how does a plant know when to flower outside?
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The 12/12 ONLY applies to indoor grows. There are several factors that tells a outdoor plant that it is time but in short ....the days getting shorter, cooler nights and overall environment. This is VERY LATE IN THE SEASON for throwing young plants out and hoping for much. But it's your grow and you will learn from this.
Like I said most everyone who has put their plants out is in flower or ready to go into it. You can Google the more scientific reasons as to why.

Yes plants have to be hardened off unless they were exposed to sunlight from the start. To do it right would take around 10-14 days.

Yes you can correct it but you will not save what damage that is done.

Plus a plant does not go into sexual maturity for about a month so in short....
I don't know really if there is enough time to mature, and then flower and get much out of your grow.

Read up on outdoor growing. Most plant by June 1st. Some still do in July but you are not going to have the harvests you would from sooner.
 
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