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Gr33n

Gr33n

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Hey guys I'm new to the growing scene but have read up a bit about it a bit. My plant is now just 12 days old and looks like it's doing prety well. This is just a seed I've had for a while, could be good could be not so good but I'm just testing the waters right now. I'm starting this grow out of my sub box then moving it somewhere else when it gets bigger. I have 2 flouros on the plant right now and a small fan. I'm not using any nutes or anything, just straight water here on out. Running 24/7 right now 12 days in. Let me know what you think!

Plant seems to be a little yellow now. Maybe too much watering?







 
wil2279

wil2279

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you should give your plant at least 4 hrs of darkness each day. they need this time with no light. and you will want to cover your cup with something so light can't get to the roots, it not good for them. and if this is your only seed, you may be disappointed if it turns out to be a male...
 
jimmy130380

jimmy130380

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doing a great job
keep the lights on 24hr and start on real light dose of nutes ,remember nutes for soil are 1/2 strength then ya wanna at least 1/2 that again
1 nute feed ,1 straight water feed
only other tip would be to make sure that fan is moving the little plant around a bit ,helps with strength and keeps the bugs off
and get those lights down right on the plant ,it will keep ya nodes tight
 
Gr33n

Gr33n

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@wil2279 I don't mind if it is a male. I just want to get used to this growing thing and getting a few seeds from males wouldn't be too bad. Males give out some female seads right?


jimmy130380 said:
real light dose of nutes ,remember nutes for soil are 1/2 strength then ya wanna at least 1/2 that again
1 nute feed ,1 straight water feed
only other tip would be to make sure that fan is moving the little plant around a bit ,helps with strength and keeps the bugs off
and get those lights down right on the plant ,it will keep ya nodes tight
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Thanks man. As of right now I don't plan on using any nutes. Don't want to burn the roots or anything. Maybe next grow I'll try them out. Yeah the fan is hitting it to where it is moving around a little. Nothing too major though. How close do you recommend the lights be?
 
desertrat

desertrat

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Your plant looks great, keep up the good work:

1. Hours of light don't really matter as long as you have light for at least 16 hours per day for this stage.
2. You will want to start watering only when the soil is dry down about an inch. This pushes the plant to expand its root system.
3. You are going to need more light when the plant goes into flower, but u are ok for now.
4. Male plants do not produce seeds, they have pollen that makes females produce seeds.
5. No nutes now but your plant is going to exhaust the nutes in your soil and u will eventually need to add some.
 
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timeismoney1

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looks really good bro. get those lights closer. if there cfl's get them within 2" or they will stretch

what lights. watts? lumens? 6500k i hope ;)
 
Gr33n

Gr33n

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thanks for the help guys.

@desertrat yeah i figured i would need more light when i goes into flowering but how much would you recommend? add 2 more lights maybe? would you recommend adding nutes right before flowering or when it flowers? i don't know if this is male or female yet so i don't really want to waste the money and get nutes when it's going to turn out to be a male.

@timeismoney i'm not sure the lumens but it's a 120v 60hz 14w. nothing special right now but the plant seems to be liking it. i'm going to for sure get some new ones but not right now.
 
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pabloesqobar

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Gr33n said:
i don't know if this is male or female yet so i don't really want to waste the money and get nutes when it's going to turn out to be a male.
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When are you switching to 12/12? If you're not going to do an extended veg stage you might get away with this. Otherwise, you will need to feed this plant before you will know it's sex. I got lucky with 1 random bagseed and it was a female. I think it's worth spending a small amount of money on nutes because it may in fact be a female. I understand this is a test run, but that's all the more reason to experiment with nutes and do what you can to maximize the potential of this hopefully female full of bud. You don't need to spend money on Fox Farm or any other specialized nutes.
 
desertrat

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Gr33n said:
@desertrat yeah i figured i would need more light when i goes into flowering but how much would you recommend? add 2 more lights maybe? would you recommend adding nutes right before flowering or when it flowers?
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you want at least 50 actual watts of 6500k cfl's. you're probably going to need some nutes before flowering but you won't waste that much.
 
Gr33n

Gr33n

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pabloesqobar: i plan on switching to 12/12 about 3 or 4 weeks in. what nutes do you recommend for this then? i have a small budget right now and won't be able to get anything until this friday (paycheck).

desertrat: there is only 28 actual watts on it right now. not sure if they are 6500k cfl's or not though.

when should i move it to a bigger pot? it's just in about a 2in by 2in one right now. should i wait until about 3 weeks in then move it? it also seems a bit yellow. i think it might be too much water though.
 
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pabloesqobar

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Any general purpose nute solution should work fine during the vegetative stage. As a general rule, you want one higher in Nitrogen, (the first letter on the NPK scale) during the vegetative state. During flower, as a general rule, you want one higher in Phosphorus, (the 2nd letter on the NPK scale). Hell, miracle grow has nutes that meets these needs. Plenty of others do as well. I think Scotts is another one. Just browse your local Ace Hardware/Lowes/Home Depot/Rite Aid/Etc. for cheap nutes.

You will want way more CFL's than you currently have. Check out the CFL forum if you haven't already: https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/ I would aim for at least 100 watts per plant. 6500k is fine for now, but you will need to switch to 2700k during flowering. Best of luck to you.
 
Gr33n

Gr33n

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Cool yeah I remember reading about the NPK thing. Should i go to flowering about a month in or more? guess i need some more lights haha. thanks for you help man. do i start a journal by just keeping posting in here?
 
Gr33n

Gr33n

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thanks man.

i was checking on my plant today and noticed a few gnat looking things around the plant running on the soil. i think they might be fungus gnats but i'm not sure. my plant is barely 2 weeks old and there are a few of them. i read that diatomaceous earth or a nice layer of sand on top will take them out. even warm water might work. should i go ahead and do this since the plant is so young or will the gnats not hurt it too much right now?
 
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victhaog

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good start! few things, change the cup to the usual red party cups or get a pot, and i have a small budget also heres a tip: Y joints for sockets are AMAZING and also brings the bulbs a bit closer and costs about 2.49, check the neck of the bulb it will tell you the K rating and try and get some daylight bulbs. you dont need nutes for at least the first 4 weeks im using FFOF and water with molasses and they are thriving and are 3 weeks old. using that food combo will get you until flowering which i would get some organic bloom nutes if you decide to go that route.
 
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victhaog

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ive reade peoples story with the nats, some people used sand or the PH neutral rocks i cant think of the name, ppl who do DWC grows use them and coat the top layer of the soil it supposedly suffocates them. im not 100% sure though i dont have this issue and im pretty new at this, ha. good luck bro.
 
Gr33n

Gr33n

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victhaog said:
good start! few things, change the cup to the usual red party cups or get a pot, and i have a small budget also heres a tip: Y joints for sockets are AMAZING and also brings the bulbs a bit closer and costs about 2.49, check the neck of the bulb it will tell you the K rating and try and get some daylight bulbs. you dont need nutes for at least the first 4 weeks im using FFOF and water with molasses and they are thriving and are 3 weeks old.
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I don't have any solo cups but i do have some terra cotta pots. should i go ahead and transplant it into a bigger terra cotta pot? i will definitely look into the Y joint, thanks man. what is FFOF? what measurements are you using for that mixture?

@victhaog: i will probably just go the sand route. might try the PH neutral rocks but need to check out HD first. see if the say anything about it.
 
Gr33n

Gr33n

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ok so my plant isn't doing too well. it's turning quite yellow and i know it's because i've watered it too much, but i haven't watered it the past day and a half or 2. i'm thinking about moving it to a bigger pot right now but i'm not sure if it will put too much stress on the plant and kill it during the move. i can't get any nutes or more lights until friday or saturday. any recommendations? one of the leaves has a brown dot in the middle and i'm not too sure what that is either.



 
Gr33n

Gr33n

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well took the initiative and planted it into a bigger pot anyway. hopefully this will help it out and maybe the new soil will get it more nutrients. the roots looked good when i took it out of the little pot. here are some pictures of the new setup. it's jerry rigged but i think it will do the job. hope this works! i was thinking about changing the lighting to 18/4 until flowering. should i do that or keep the 24/7?
 

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Gr33n

Gr33n

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well it seems like the leaf with the brown spot is doing worse. the spot has kinda spread out on the leaf. the small leaves are more green than the bigger ones so i'm guessing it's a nitrogen deficiency? i'll be able to get some nutes tomorrow and will give it to the plant asap. hopefully it will not die in the mean time. still not sure about the brown spot though.
 
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