First Time I Smoked Salvia..NEVER AGAIN

So anyways I smoked salvia about a week ago with a buddy, I went to illinois and bought it because in illi its illegalized as of jan 1 in indiana its not even for sale because its in the court system right now to be de-legalized. So I bought some 40x salvia, I get back to his house and we hit up a bowl together, it just made us laugh alot, so I come back home and decide alright I didnt trip out im going to try it again...BAD IDEA..I took about 4 bong rips of that shit and all of sudden started sweating (I just got out of the shower) So I took my shirt off, but then I got so cold I couldnt believe it, put the shirt back on and all of a sudden I got REALLY irritated with myself about nothing, I started punching walls and yelling at myself and screaming, then it got worse, I started running from my room to the kitchen to my room to the kitchen saying, WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO TO YOURSELF WHAT THE FUCK, anyways after a bit of that I all of a sudden felt like shit, and it felt like I had nobody left in my life, I called my buddy he didnt pick up and I automatically assumed he hated me for some reason, I thought my parents left me when I was young so I started freaking out more screaming why did everyone have to leave me and crying, anyways then it all went away and I was REALLY hungry for some reason so I ate, and never felt better..but that was the worst shit I have ever done in my life....maybe I was allergic or something, I mean I didnt trip, didnt see anything, I just went through moods so quick it was unbelievable...

weed scares me less, i'd say ganja over black flackes anyday

IggyZag said:

WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO TO YOURSELF WHAT THE FUCK, anyways after a bit of that I all of a sudden felt like shit, and it felt like I had nobody left in my life.

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^ (Thats how I felt when I had my bad Shroom trip, < And my friend looked like this guy)

Anyways you'll be okay, but salvia tends to make ppl see some really fucked up shit, usually scary.

LOUNGE; Glad to have my family

salvia is advertised as incense right? Thats how they get away with selling it legally?

Yeah they are sellin it a incense or sage.

ya I bought the incense, man fuck that though, and it made me cough like a mofo too..im just sticking my mother natures natural grown cannabis and shrooms, and perhaps try a few other exotic little psychodelic plants, but fuck salvia..

salvia is no fun for me, it definity has psychodelic effects but not pleasurable at all.

I did a 3ft bong rip of 20x and tripped balls for like 10 mins. I could not run. I barely crawled 8 feet, and could hardly get from the floor to my chair.

I have no idea why you reacted the way you did, both emotionally and physically.

- maybe you shouldn't do any more drugs or drink until you start to build some self-esteem and confidence in your relationships. I'm not saying you're a whacko or something, but before doin' any drugs, people need to have their head grounded (and be OK with their life). I refuse to believe any drugs makes someone lose their mind.
- I don't know I did 20x and you did 40x and you're able to run,scream, dial a phone. Maybe you got some bunk shit salvia, that wasnt really 40x or something.
- Allergic reactions don't make someone get emo, they make people itch, swell-up, get a rash, etc.

If you do shrooms and stuff, what made you freak so bad? Just the crazy salvia heat, and then the cold?

Salvia is very much the rapid punch to the face because it kicks in, in 1/2 a second. So, its a hard thing to mentally prep for. Hell, the first time I did it, I thought I'd go to hell and back, but I still wasn't ready for the trip to hell to happen in 1/2 a second without warning.

Thank god you didn't hear the salvia space demons, you woulda wigged. I'd also stay away from DXM if I were you.

Try not to fight it. Most people spend their whole Salvia trip trying to fight off the feelings it gives you. You really have to calm yourself down, maybe meditate before you use it. Then, lay back in a silent dark room, smoke a bowl, close your eyes, and go with the flow.

I am pretty sure a bad trip has a lot to do with how calm you are before, and if your eyes are open or closed. When you keep your eyes open it's like your brain is trying so hard to figure out what is really happening, you start going mad. When you close your eyes everything will be clear, noise will interfear with your trip also(you might think someone is talking to you).

And always have someone watch you

I have also noticed no hot flashes when smoking a standerdized extract. It is only with non-standard extracts/the black stuff, that I ever had a hot flash.

i;m all for salvia... i have done it 4 times... each time i think i'm flying haha for like 5 min i just see myself flyin around the room... its pretty bad ass

I've tried Salvia a few times and the strongest reaction i got was from 20x (first), 40x (2nd time) was maybe 1/2 as strong of a reaction and the 60x did not do a lot.

The first time I can describe in 2 words... fucking crazy.
Me and 2 other friends wanted to try it, so i got some 20x from a local paraphernalia store. We decided to go out in the woods by a bike path and sat in a circle. I was sitting on a skate board which just so happened to be laying in the clearing we were in, I packed the first bowl, filled it up all the way and torched it... I took about 3-4 big hits and after about 2 minutes the reaction occurred full force I was laughing hysterically and I lost my grasp with reality. I started sweating and it felt like I was covered in thistles. I kept asking my two friends "Where are we?" over and over between my fits of laughter. My head also felt like it was filled with lead.
This lasted about 10-12 minutes.

420FreedomFighter said:

I've tried Salvia a few times and the strongest reaction i got was from 20x (first), 40x (2nd time) was maybe 1/2 as strong of a reaction and the 60x did not do a lot.

The first time I can describe in 2 words... fucking crazy.
Me and 2 other friends wanted to try it, so i got some 20x from a local paraphernalia store. We decided to go out in the woods by a bike path and sat in a circle. I was sitting on a skate board which just so happened to be laying in the clearing we were in, I packed the first bowl, filled it up all the way and torched it... I took about 3-4 big hits and after about 2 minutes the reaction occurred full force I was laughing hysterically and I lost my grasp with reality. I started sweating and it felt like I was covered in thistles. I kept asking my two friends "Where are we?" over and over between my fits of laughter. My head also felt like it was filled with lead.
This lasted about 10-12 minutes.

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Everytime i smoke salvia, its always with weed....but i feel exactly like that...then im just high forever

IggyZag said:

ya I bought the incense, man fuck that though, and it made me cough like a mofo too..im just sticking my mother natures natural grown cannabis and shrooms, and perhaps try a few other exotic little psychodelic plants, but fuck salvia..

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I find it slightly disturbing hearing so many people say shit like 'fuck salvia,'
or 'that shit is bunk,' or other such negativity. People tend to be negative towards substances and experiences they do not understand. It surprises me a little to hear this kind of thing...especially from people on this forum who are probably way more open-minded than the average American Joe. I believe that Salvia Divinorum is a sacred herb, and should be treated with respect at all times. It, like all herbs, was put on this planet for us to experiment with and learn from. Bad experiences with substances is usually indicative of poor mental preperation, impulsive use, use for the wrong reasons, inappropriate set/setting, etc. I suggest doing some reading on this herb before you try to analyze it with a layperson's 'understanding.' This is why so many herbs, that only exist to help us understand ourselves, become illegal-because stupid, disrespectful people try them for the wrong reasons, have a frightening experience they did not bother to prepare themselves for the possibility of, and end up in an ER, or fucking dead. Next thing you know, somebody's grief-stricken mother reports to the authorities that her child ingested salvia or some other substance, and that it should be illegal so this doesn't happen to anyone else's child. This is actually the story of how Salvia is quickly becoming illegal in many states. Please respect the herbs. They are sacred, and if you do not prepare your mind for a profound learning experience before trying unfamiliar substances, it's your fucking fault for having a bad trip. Don't try and blame it on the herb. She was only put here to help you, and this is how you treat her.

Easy pm4l. It doesn't do any good to get high and mighty. The road is long, and no one steps in the exact same places.

Thanks, friend. I just find it sad and disturbing that people can be so disrespectful to mother nature and the beautiful gifts she so graciously bestows upon us. This is why "drugs" are illegal. This is why marijuana will probably never be legal, and why the majority of Americans will probably never have the opportunity to experience a sacred experience with Salvia, or a consciousness-expanding experience with LSD, an improved sense of self and unity with others via MDMA, a new outlook on life via mushrooms. Because so many stupid fucking people try drugs-because they are told not to, or because their peers make it seem like the in-thing to do, because we've been socialized to associate different substances with specific images, lifestyles, etc. People don't realize that their actions significantly effect and shape this collective consciousness we call humanity.

Im not trying to down salvia, I think its a great thing to smoke and enjoy (for those who enjoy it), however I myself just do not like its high, whether it was a bad or good trip I just didnt like the body feelings I had, but I do not think it should be illegal, I just wont ever do it again. However I dont think its bad in any way I think it is a beautiful thing.

Fuck That Shit!~

Salvia isint only about getting high and seeing things...... i chew 3-4 leaves every couple of days and it doesnt get me high, rather calms me down and puts me in a better state of mind...... the leaves are allot less strong than the extract though... i did 20x once and 40x once, i had a pretty funny trip on the 20, and i felt the 40 was way too strong. it should also be noted that the trip you will have on salvia is directly related to the way you are feeling when you injest it. if your in a bad mood, chances are you will have a bad trip

that would be hilarious for me to see... lol someone pacing yelling at them selves for no reason.... hahaha, yeah fuck salvia.