First time outdoor grow questions

The-Liquor

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I am gonna go lurk your thread cause I got the same shit going on but don’t have it fixed little bastards
 

The-Liquor

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Predatory mites, ladybugs. Rip off infected branches. Powder them with Demetrious Earth.
Since you're into flower be careful if you decide to use an insecticide.

Good luck
damn, I’ve spotted ladybugs on the plant during veg and I left them be. Seems like the aphids have probably been there for a bit and the lady bugs were helping keep them at bay but now over run. Next year I’ll def get a ladybug house. I went and got citric acid to make to spray on leaves and then decided to go to the grow shop and get insecticide for the soil. I don’t think they are in the soil but additional peace of mind for $25 seems worth it. Started treatment yesterday, I’ll check mid afternoon. I suspect this will take a week or so to treat.

also, anyone think this is related to earlier fan leaves yellowing?
 

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The-Liquor

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Couldn’t wait until mid day lol had to see what was going on. Results from yesterday to today are extremely encouraging. Lots of dead aphids on the ground around the base of the stock and the side of the fabric pots. Not to many moving at this point. I estimate an 80% reduction on the plants in less than 24 hours.

I will continue to treat and report back if they flare back up or if it was a total success. As of right now I highly suggest Citric acid for the leaves and the flying skull. To be honest the citric acid is probably the real hero here and the flying skull is probably overkill. Either way I take some comfort knowing that if they are in the roots I’m killing them

the picture is of the side of the fabric pot where the plant hangs over. Some aphids look upright and some upside down. I watched that spot for a few mins and did not see movement top of the soil is like a field of dead aphids.

hope this helps others. Thanks!
 

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Thai Fox

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damn, I’ve spotted ladybugs on the plant during veg and I left them be. Seems like the aphids have probably been there for a bit and the lady bugs were helping keep them at bay but now over run. Next year I’ll def get a ladybug house. I went and got citric acid to make to spray on leaves and then decided to go to the grow shop and get insecticide for the soil. I don’t think they are in the soil but additional peace of mind for $25 seems worth it. Started treatment yesterday, I’ll check mid afternoon. I suspect this will take a week or so to treat.

also, anyone think this is related to earlier fan leaves yellowing?
Yes definitely related to why your leaves went yellow, if they are left on there long enough the top sides of the leaves will start getting covered in a black substance which then blocks light entering the leaf.
 

Thai Fox

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damn, I’ve spotted ladybugs on the plant during veg and I left them be. Seems like the aphids have probably been there for a bit and the lady bugs were helping keep them at bay but now over run. Next year I’ll def get a ladybug house. I went and got citric acid to make to spray on leaves and then decided to go to the grow shop and get insecticide for the soil. I don’t think they are in the soil but additional peace of mind for $25 seems worth it. Started treatment yesterday, I’ll check mid afternoon. I suspect this will take a week or so to treat.

also, anyone think this is related to earlier fan leaves yellowing?
Also if not in bud I found neem oil works alright but during bud mixing up some different things from in the garden like lemongrass, rosemary, chilli etc with a squirt of dish liquid worked out for me.

Ants, restrict their access though and it should help prevent further build ups.
 

Mountain Bud

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Thanks man! Got a bug problem now! Raining hard past 2-3 days. Damaged some branches, rain stopped so I’m repairing and checking and found these bugs on some of the bottom leaves.. nasty man are they root aphids? If so how do I get rid of them. I started a thread in plant problems to try to find out as well.

thanks
Those are aphids (not root aphids). Many approaches to knocking them down. You can spray a firm stream of water on them, once off, they can’t get back. Lots of insecticides, check local markets. Now starting flower, We are keeping them knocked down with a foliage spray of black strap molasses . They multiply very fast…hop on them right away! Good luck.
 

The-Liquor

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Those are aphids (not root aphids). Many approaches to knocking them down. You can spray a firm stream of water on them, once off, they can’t get back. Lots of insecticides, check local markets. Now starting flower, We are keeping them knocked down with a foliage spray of black strap molasses . They multiply very fast…hop on them right away! Good luck.
thanks for the tip, curious what is in the molasses that keeps them away?
 

Bullmark

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I have done around 5 or more indoor harvests roughly 10 Years ago but this is my first outdoor grow and first time growing in 10 years So I’m definitely a beginner and rusty as shit trying to relearn and research some of things I forgot. Way back then I used this site to post and get tips but lost the account who knows when but wish I could see what I posted, might be kinda funny or sad depending on what I thought was good at that time haha.

With it being legal in my Northeast state I decided to put two clones outdoors back in early June. I was told they were lemon cookie hybrid? The plants are starting to flower and I’ve read that during this time mold is at high risk and they should be covered during rain. What do people do during this time to cover? Tarp or like a porch umbrella? Or is this overkill and not needed?

Also read about people cutting away the fan leaves during this time. I get the logic of doing this but everything in me says that’s not a good idea and that the fan leaves are responsible for energy. Am I wrong here, is that a normal process or is this typically saved for a few weeks before harvest?

lastly I’m concerned with harvest. I know my plants are probably 6+ weeks away but I do not know where to dry. I have sheds, seems like a really bad idea, garage maybe would work but I foresee it not going well for some reason. Basement is available but my wife does not want the smell. Totally cool with growing and smoking but just doesn’t want guest over with the house smelling as strongly as it will. I do have a small green house I could hang in but wouldn’t it be hard to control the temp and humidity in there? Paper bags in the basement? Would that help control some of the smell?

Thank for any input
Congrats on getting back into growing……I’m kinda in the same boat. I grew only outdoor many years ago, decided to start growing indoors just a couple yrs ago, and recently fired up my first outdoor plants in over 20 years.
You’ve gotten some excellent advice so far and I don’t have much to add. As u probably know, the dry and cure can make or break a grow.
IMO keeping a fairly steady temp is crucial to the dry.
My last harvest was a couple of tiny autos that I was messing around with while vegging some photos. I quickly figured out that middle of summer in the SE (US) was not an ideal place to find or create the best conditions for drying.
I shoot for 60F and 60% rh……but I couldn’t get any space below 69-70F no matter how hard I tried. Dialing in the 60% rh was no problem, using one inexpensive humidifier.
Anyway, based on the smallish size of the plants, what should have taken around 11-12 days only took 8-9.
They still turned out ok, just finished a month cure, and are smooth as silk….the nose suffered a little though. One strain is still super strong but the other lost a notch……but no grassy/hay smell, which is totally unacceptable.
So put some thought into where you can hang and have the coolest temps (down to 55F) along with the least amount of fluctuation…..ideally less than 5F degrees. You can generally pump in more humidity so that’s usually less of a hurdle for me.
One more thing, I would follow the advice given and take a few leaves out of the middle of the plant. I will leave all the big fans on the edges and even the ones lower down. They don’t block anything and can really fortify a plant’s internal reserves as time passes.
I’ve always had the best all around bud development when they have a bit of space to themselves. Thick bushy plants seem to be the gold standard and are what I shoot for….but allowing each branch of bud sites to breathe and grow freely results in a nicer finished product….IMHO that is.
Good luck and these last few weeks are exciting as hell…..what a great hobby.
 

The-Liquor

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I may have jumped the gun on 80% of the aphids being wiped out in the first 24 hours. Two and a half days later and I would say I’m probably closer to the 80% killed or removed.

leaves continue to yellow, not sure if it’s from the aphids, overwatering from all the rain, treatment for the aphids or a combo of all. Either way I don’t think I have a choice and have to keep treating. Would be great to be done treating in the next 3 days or so.

plants I think are 4 weeks into flower, does that sound about right based on pic? Long way to go regardless, I hope they make it. Secured a grow tent and fan from my broski for harvest. ordered carbon filter and dehumidifier, will be drying in the basement.

great hobby, super enjoyable but fuck these aphids have me stressed out ha
 

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Thai Fox

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I may have jumped the gun on 80% of the aphids being wiped out in the first 24 hours. Two and a half days later and I would say I’m probably closer to the 80% killed or removed.

leaves continue to yellow, not sure if it’s from the aphids, overwatering from all the rain, treatment for the aphids or a combo of all. Either way I don’t think I have a choice and have to keep treating. Would be great to be done treating in the next 3 days or so.

plants I think are 4 weeks into flower, does that sound about right based on pic? Long way to go regardless, I hope they make it. Secured a grow tent and fan from my broski for harvest. ordered carbon filter and dehumidifier, will be drying in the basement.

great hobby, super enjoyable but fuck these aphids have me stressed out ha
Can see the top tips have started getting that black stuff on them that I mentioned before, if not cleaned off it will progress slowly covering the whole leaf but surprisingly it doesn't really make it across to the buds but the sugar leaves do get some after a long time without any upkeep. If you can access the plants easily you can grab the leaf and spray plain water on them washing them off, or use your finger or a brush to knock them down.

Yes I'd say they look about 6wks into flowering at this stage. They're coming along really well in my opinion mate.
 

The-Liquor

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Can see the top tips have started getting that black stuff on them that I mentioned before, if not cleaned off it will progress slowly covering the whole leaf but surprisingly it doesn't really make it across to the buds but the sugar leaves do get some after a long time without any upkeep. If you can access the plants easily you can grab the leaf and spray plain water on them washing them off, or use your finger or a brush to knock them down.
Thanks for the feedback!
I did one application of treatment and then the next day I hosed them off to wash any bodies and waste left behind by these bastards. I plan on washing them today again after two days without wash. I’ll hose them off again and then wipe the leaves.

thanks!
 

The-Liquor

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The aphids are under control, I have to look extremely hard to find them at this point. Most likely one more round of treatment and I suspect they will all be exterminated.
Leaves have yellowed quite a bit. Again I’m really unsure if they are hungry for nutrients or if that’s from the aphids or because of the stage of life they are in. Seems a little early for the leaves to be yellow due to age. Gotta be lack of nutrients due to not being able to feed because of the rain or the aphids.

Have Not given nutrient’s in 1.5 weeks due to rain, maybe I should cover the pots when it rains, anyone else do this? Normally I wouldn’t care but it seems like they are hungry and I do not want to over water.
 

TabbyDee

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Also if not in bud I found neem oil works alright but during bud mixing up some different things from in the garden like lemongrass, rosemary, chilli etc with a squirt of dish liquid worked out for me.

Ants, restrict their access though and it should help prevent further build ups.
Did you spray the buds also. I’m so worried I’m going to ruin the buds with the dish soap.
I went out and got organic rosemary essential oil and I’m going to spray tonight but I read a article that said rosemary and water would work. I’m trying to get rid of aphids.
 

The-Liquor

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Just watch out for the Sh!t Hawks Lahey ;-)
o I successfully avoided the shit hawks from swooping in and trying to carry me off to their shitty nest but now I’m dealing with a bigger foe.

Shittapillars, started as shit larvae and became a pandemic of shittapillars.

My hero! RIP Mr.Lahey
 
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