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I have under my hand three different nutes and im not sure which one to use!

1- 30-10-10 blue powder i guess that should be good for veg stage but i have not used it!

2- 10-10-7.5 green liquied thats the only one i used so far!

3- 20-20-20 all purpose red powder havent used it yet?

what yall think? its not easy to find what ever nutes around my area! im still looking around for more options. Im about to start flowering my girls been vegged for about two months and been showing pre-flowers

Thanks in advance.
 
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Thank you guys for the reply, btw how much is 2.5 grams or if u guys know how much should i start with i mean the dosage for the 20-20-20?? i dont have a scale......
 
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pepepass said:
Thank you guys for the reply, btw how much in 2.5 or if u guys know how much should i start with i mean the dosage for the 20-20-20?? i dont have a scale......
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Halve the label directions. I've got some Shultz 20-30-20 that calls for 1/4 tsp per gallon every watering, so you should try 1/8 tsp per gallon and go from there.
 
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Another thing i just took some clones about a week ago and its my first time doing so. Its getting a bit wilty and i dont feel like they have grown a bit or developed roots!

any comments or suggestians i would be glad to, here is some quick info about my setup; total of 310w "actual" CFL's blue spect, temps 75-82 my medium based on potting soil perlite and vermiculite 50-25-25
btw this is what im using for my clones......
 
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How are you treating your clones ?

When your new to cloning it is allways best to mist the leaves several times every day,making sure to either mist them in their dark period or to have them well away from any heat from the lights,the mist of water on the leaves will keep them alive until they form a root system.

As you get better at cloning you will not need to mist them all,misting slows down the natural process of root formation because the cutting wont grow roots as fast if its getting the water it needs to live from its leaves,even though misting adds more days to the cutting growing roots its still much easier to keep clones alive until roots are formed.

I do not mist my cuttings any more but when i 1st started cloning it helped me out greatly.

Do not fertilize a fresh cutting either,all they need is fresh clean water.

Your possibly making a huge mistake with the fertilizers you have,not that they are bad but you need to know exactly what brand & type each fertilizer is,blue pwder is a good hint but not an exact pointer as to the brand/type,you must understand that most fertilizers have different mix ratios,one 20-20-20 blue powder may have a mix ratio of 1/4 teaspoon per gallon while another blue powder 20-20-20 might have a mix ratio of 1 full teaspoon per gallon,the concentrations are different in most fertilizers,this can cause serious nute burn or serious issues from under fed plants.

Spend $10 & get yourself some fertilizer that you have mixing directions for,its too great a risk not to spend $10,i highly reccomend these fertilizers right here,they are what i use with great success & only cost $8 total.

 
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panhead said:
How are you treating your clones ?

When your new to cloning it is allways best to mist the leaves several times every day,making sure to either mist them in their dark period or to have them well away from any heat from the lights,the mist of water on the leaves will keep them alive until they form a root system.

As you get better at cloning you will not need to mist them all,misting slows down the natural process of root formation because the cutting wont grow roots as fast if its getting the water it needs to live from its leaves,even though misting adds more days to the cutting growing roots its still much easier to keep clones alive until roots are formed.

I do not mist my cuttings any more but when i 1st started cloning it helped me out greatly.

Do not fertilize a fresh cutting either,all they need is fresh clean water.

Your possibly making a huge mistake with the fertilizers you have,not that they are bad but you need to know exactly what brand & type each fertilizer is,blue pwder is a good hint but not an exact pointer as to the brand/type,you must understand that most fertilizers have different mix ratios,one 20-20-20 blue powder may have a mix ratio of 1/4 teaspoon per gallon while another blue powder 20-20-20 might have a mix ratio of 1 full teaspoon per gallon,the concentrations are different in most fertilizers,this can cause serious nute burn or serious issues from under fed plants.

Spend $10 & get yourself some fertilizer that you have mixing directions for,its too great a risk not to spend $10,i highly reccomend these fertilizers right here,they are what i use with great success & only cost $8 total.

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First of all THANK YOU PanHead for your reply much appreciated! thats true this is my first time cloning but i did research it, so far i only water my clones i have never gave them any kind of ferts, and they been under a home made dome which u can see in one of the pic's i do mist them every day and the dome too also i take of the dome every day for about an hour to give them some fresh air after that i mist them and put the dome on them. Its been about 8-9 days since i made the cutting and half of em are turning yellow and dropy! i herd its kinda good cuz they r focusing on root developments thats what i came up from my search! correct me if im wrong PLEASE. Now bout the Fert's that i bought they do have a recommendation dose but as i read its always good to start with 1/4 or maybe less dosage and then take it from there....... and the recommended dose is 2.5 grams for each liter! Again thank you PanHead for your time and PLEASE feel free to comment/suggest anything and if u need more pic's just let me know.
Much Love.
 
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BTW here is what im working with "strains":
1- Strawberry Haze; Greenhouse
2- Cannadential; DNA
3- LA Confedintial; DNA
 
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Did you always have the bottles over them? That's a lot more leaf than I would leave on a clone, but they need about 90% humidity to stay perky. The clones I take are usually 2 or 3 inches tall with 2 or 3 nodes and I cut off the larger fan leaves or cut them in half. I'll bet if you cut the largest leaves off, they get perky on you.
 
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Did you always have the bottles over them? That's a lot more leaf than I would leave on a clone, but they need about 90% humidity to stay perky. The clones I take are usually 2 or 3 inches tall with 2 or 3 nodes and I cut off the larger fan leaves or cut them in half. I'll bet if you cut the largest leaves off, they get perky on you.
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Yes i did but now i took them off after 8 days! also i just trimed some of the leafs?! from now on im gonna keep on misting them without a dome!

what yall think??
 
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Since i took the dome off for about 12 hours they look worse! i mist them really good and put the dome back on em and i put

some rooting powder around the stems LIL BIT NOT THAT MUCH!! Its making me nervous cuz i was planning on flowering the

mothers tomorrow but now i dont know what to do! i might wait a lil longer hopfully they ill perk up!?

let me know if u guys want some pic's or info im in need of some help. Thanks..........
 
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As much as you're spraying them it could be stem rot. As long as there is some kind of dome with moisture on the inside, they shouldn't need misting. I haven't misted a clone in a long time, and when I did, I had all kinds of problems.

You should focus on smaller clones, but for now, dig those out gently and see if the stems are brown mush. It would be easier with Rapid Rooters, Jiffy-7s, or rockwool. That way you could see the roots and know when they're ready.
 
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what do you guys think about this soil,

can i use it for flowering? without adding

any nutes? or maybe some.....

i used it once for my seedlings and it

killed it! but now my girls about 2.5

months old and about 2' tall?

Thanks all for your help much

appreciated:leaf:
 
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