First timer question

Elwynn Farmhand

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Hi everyone! First time grower here and first time poster. I learned a lot from this site and the community is great, so I wanted to see if you guys could give me some advice on the first problem I've encountered while growing .

A brief summary : The initial plants I grew from seed are doing great and are now 52 days (7 weeks) into flower.

While running a 24 hour light cycle and vegging those plants around 59 days ago (1 week before switching to 12/12 flowering light cycle ), I took many clones from the best looking plant.

Here's where I think I messed up. Not having room in my Grow tent, I decided to simply place these clones under a normal household LED light in my living room for a few days, while waiting for a larger tent to be shipped which I would use for Flowering.

When the new tent came in I placed the clones back into the Veg tent under a 300W LED with a 24 hour light schedule, where they have remained ever since. (I spaced out the buckets and doubled it to 600W when the roots hit the water and started to take off).

My guess is that the clones under this household LED light must have switched to flower. But not sure .

Anyway, I've uploaded pictures of these weirdos and am wondering what you guys think I should do ? (Yea, The little guy at the far end of the tent is a lost cause and I will probably just toss it regardless).

I've come across these recommendations so far, not for my particular circumstance but by sifting through advice given to others suffering what seems to be similar mishaps with their clones . Not sure if they are correct or even relevant, but here they are anyway .

1. Take clones from the lower portion of these plants . Throw these plants out, Start over and hope the freshly cut clones will veg normally.
2. Cut out everything with a scalpel that looks like a flowering node from these plants. Keep these plants under 24 hour light and proceed as normal.
3. Keep waiting and do nothing, these plants will be fine.
4. Scrap these plants entirely and start over again from seed.

Anyway, here's where I hope you guys chime in. Any advice is greatly appreciated, and thank you in advance !
 

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Elwynn Farmhand

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They aren't autoflowers; they are clones taken from AK47 feminized. I know the mother wasn't either because the initial plants needed to be switched to 12/12 to induce flowering. Thanks for the reply
 

haloman420

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Hmm. Well I have heard of people letting them go under veg lighting. They say the buds dry up and fall off like flowers and the plant veging out again. Never did it myself. Weird stuff.
 

Elwynn Farmhand

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Hmm. Well I have heard of people letting them go under veg lighting. They say the buds dry up and fall off like flowers and the plant veging out again. Never did it myself. Weird stuff.
Yea, very weird. They've been under 24 hour light for almost 7 weeks now and still look like that :(. What do you think about taking clones from the largest of them and starting over with those ? Or would you just keep them as-is
 

haloman420

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I would do both. I mean why not at this point? Unless those delicious little nugs are too hard to resist.
 

goldberg71b

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Are they from the original breeder? Serious seeds?

I bought 3 packs with my very first order. I didn't order autos. They came in the breeder packs and they were labeled regular seeds just like I ordered nothing about auto on the packaging. Also just like I ordered. I had the serial numbers ect.

None the less there was auto in the genes. My order was from about 5 years ago. I popped a handful. Eventually losing all in flats rooting. White hairs and everything in less than 2 weeks under 24 hour light. Then I'd pop a handful more. And the same thing would happen. About 80% flowered with the first cutting. The other 20% didn't do it until the second batch of cuttings. Meaning I was able to run those few twice. I ran through all 3 packs with nothing left. Every one did it!

I found about 25 seeds from all the plants or clones. About 6 months ago I decided I wanted run AK again. So I ran the seeds I collected. Same thing happened. I cracked 11 seeds only 4 didn't flower while rooting. Those 4 did flower on the set of cuttings.

Whether they had a mix up and mislabeled them I don't know. But I'll never buy them again! I will one day try Kali mist and hope for true regular seeds.
 

goldberg71b

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Next time I want AK 47 I'm going with tutankhamun. I'm hoping that their copy is from before serious got them fucked up!
 

Elwynn Farmhand

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Are they from the original breeder? Serious seeds?

I bought 3 packs with my very first order. I didn't order autos. They came in the breeder packs and they were labeled regular seeds just like I ordered nothing about auto on the packaging. Also just like I ordered. I had the serial numbers ect.

None the less there was auto in the genes. My order was from about 5 years ago. I popped a handful. Eventually losing all in flats rooting. White hairs and everything in less than 2 weeks under 24 hour light. Then I'd pop a handful more. And the same thing would happen. About 80% flowered with the first cutting. The other 20% didn't do it until the second batch of cuttings. Meaning I was able to run those few twice. I ran through all 3 packs with nothing left. Every one did it!

I found about 25 seeds from all the plants or clones. About 6 months ago I decided I wanted run AK again. So I ran the seeds I collected. Same thing happened. I cracked 11 seeds only 4 didn't flower while rooting. Those 4 did flower on the set of cuttings.

Whether they had a mix up and mislabeled them I don't know. But I'll never buy them again! I will one day try Kali mist and hope for true regular seeds.
Thanks for the reply; I got these seeds from ilovegrowingmarijuana . That sucks what happened to you, damn. I'd have probably gave up lmao. But ya, the only reason I'm not sure if that's the reason is because NONE of the plants the seeds grew into which These clones were taken from had any problem whatsoever and grew beautifully . Definitely no problem like this . So I figure it was more likely human error on my part who accidentally put them into flower .

Would you continue vegging these and potentially waste a cycle on them if they don't flower properly later on ?

And also... can I even take clones from the big plant in the pic above anymore, now that it seems to have flowered (or whatever the f it's doing lol).

It would really suck to lose that strain, the mother of that one is producing a shit ton
 

Elwynn Farmhand

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I would do both. I mean why not at this point? Unless those delicious little nugs are too hard to resist.
I hear ya; yea these tiny nugs don't really interest me. much more concerned for the long term.

Thank you for your sage advice. Maybe I'll continue vegging the big plant , take clones from it and scrap the others . Which leads me to my next question ; Is there any way I can take clones from the big plant in the pic, with it having flowered or whatever ? Would they be mutants as well ? I'd really hate to lose the strain
 

Bosgrower

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This won't resolve your flower issue, but why are you running 24/0?
Even plants need to rest. You can run autos 20/4, but for photos you should really run 18/6.
Just a suggestion
 

goldberg71b

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There is no saving an auto flower. It won't go back to veg. You might be able to root it. But it's not going to grow. It's just going to continue to flower.

First run I never used a cutting that started showing hairs and flowering. That was it I chopped and tossed the cutting. The 4 I had this round that made it to round 2 this time I'm not flowering. I'm spraying them right now for pollen. I'm going to sprinkle a few different strains with it. I may never use them. But I didn't think I'd have run these seeds either. But someone asked for AK and it had been a few years. So rather than just loosing it I figured take some pollen. Who knows it's 50/50 I guess whether the cross would carry the trait?
 
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