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genuity

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Really? You would double it? Is it ok to mix into the soil I already made? I feel bad breaking those fungal hyphae..
I use Coots mix & it calls for 1.5 cups per cu.ft of soil mix.I bump that up to 3-4 cups..Coots mix is weak,not high amounts of P, so I add my own,when I go to flowering, as a top dress..
 

Flaming Pie

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I use Coots mix & it calls for 1.5 cups per cu.ft of soil mix.I bump that up to 3-4 cups..Coots mix is weak,not high amounts of P, so I add my own,when I go to flowering, as a top dress..
K. I upped it from 1.75 cups to 2.25 cups in the bin. Maybe the next bin I will bump it to 3 cups.

I will report sir!

Thanks for including cup amounts. Helps alot.

Would you suggest adding fishbone meal as a top dress or just using it in the AACT?
 
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Flaming Pie

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Some frost pictures. Sulfur and magnesium are magic!

I also topdressed with some garden tone to help the girls along until I get my AACT brewer up and running.
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This cut of Aloha Grapestomper produces small but dense and heavy nugs. I see increases in bud size but it is very different from the big bulky foxtails of last grow.
 

Flaming Pie

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Also forgot to say this last week:

I placed my solo cups up on a milk crate from the mylar floor of my tent. This allows drainage away from the bottom of the cup and surprisingly has lowered the temperature of my root zone!

Were you guys aware of the temp difference on mylar floor vs elevated a foot above? On the floor it was a good 4 degrees warmer. Reflected heat?
 
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DonBrennon

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Anyone have a suggestion for mulch on the top of my pots? The dry air is really drying out my pots fast and I know a lot of feeder roots are at the top of the pot.

I added some more soil and a half ewc half soil mix on top. Hoping that will protect the top soil layer a bit.

Seems like they may need water every 2 days now.. bone dry the top two inches today. No bueno.

@genuity
Using mulch really helps with keeping the soil surface moist and alive, I use straw and old cannabis leaves over ewc topdress, it provides a barrier/buffer between soil and the dry air. The mulch also decomposes providing extra nutrients to your soil, bonus. It can be a pain in the ass keeping your tent clean but any debris just goes back on top of the pot.
 

Flaming Pie

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Using mulch really helps with keeping the soil surface moist and alive, I use straw and old cannabis leaves over ewc topdress, it provides a barrier/buffer between soil and the dry air. The mulch also decomposes providing extra nutrients to your soil, bonus. It can be a pain in the ass keeping your tent clean but any debris just goes back on top of the pot.
Even leaves that have yellowed? Or just green matter? I should get a bale of hay this summer.

Do I have to worry about bringing any critters home in my straw?
 

Mineralz

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Awesome work Pie. Have you done the EWC teas for awhile now or are you just beginning to amend your own recipe to go through a whole cycle with just water? I've been doing a lot of research on the subject of EWC and organic amendments etc and I think its something I really wanna try next round. Trying to veer from straight hydro to a more streamlined organic approach so I can get that higher quality that we all love so much. You have a set process for this? I know organic soil, perlite, vermiculite, worm castings, bat guano and humic acid/espom salts are a basic build. Care to elaborate?
 

DonBrennon

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Even leaves that have yellowed? Or just green matter? I should get a bale of hay this summer.

Do I have to worry about bringing any critters home in my straw?
If you are worried about bad bugs I'd prob leave the straw out and just use your old canna leaves (green or yellow no probs) or another source of organic matter that you know is bug free, I've bought bagged "Organic Forest mulch" before, very cheap (50L/14Gal) and it was supposed to actually deter pests, it didn't explain how (I think it's hot composted), but it worked well, I'd still be using it now instead of straw if the drive to get it wasn't so far(I was working near there at the time).
You could also go for non-organic mulch like a layer of vermiculite (I personally don't like this method) or clay hydro pellets or something like that, there are many ways to mulch, definitely worth doing and also doing a bit of research on, to see what suits your set up and availability.
 

DonBrennon

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I think I actually introduced thrip to my room through some mulch in my early stages after converting from coco/chem growing to ROLS, at the same time a mate'?', gave me some cuttings with spider mite on them (unknowingly until later). These spread to my main tent, but I got some hypoaspis mites and some other form of predator mite and inoculated my soil, plants and worm bins. It sorted both the thrip and red spider mite and I've not had any bad bug since, despite using the same soil for the last 2 years and introducing all kinds of external inputs as mulch, eg nettles, dandelions, comfrey, borage, horsetail etc....

The soil under my mulch is now alive with all kind of mites, bugs and worms, but they all seem to balance out and my plants seem to love itIMG_0046.JPG IMG_0412.JPG
 

Oregon Gardener

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HALP!

Do you guys think they are running out of food? Is this normal with organic grows?

Tomorrow will be 4 weeks and I expect them to go another 5 and a half. Seems the damage has progressed. Or maybe the root system is still recovering? I gave them some Epsom (1tsp per gallon) yesterday.

Root zone is 66*F at night and 70*F during day. Only two fans on top of canopy.

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Concerned for my babies! IT is confusing me because the fading is happening in odd places.

Could the drying of my soil have damaged the microbes? Should I brew up an AACT to help?

Any suggestions on a flower AACT? I am thinking EWC, fish bone meal and sugar?
I would stick to the Epsom salt and have patients (for now). In my garden yellow leaves in flower is common. I'm away from home or I would post some picks. I'm with genuity, that's just natural.
 

Flaming Pie

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Awesome work Pie. Have you done the EWC teas for awhile now or are you just beginning to amend your own recipe to go through a whole cycle with just water? I've been doing a lot of research on the subject of EWC and organic amendments etc and I think its something I really wanna try next round. Trying to veer from straight hydro to a more streamlined organic approach so I can get that higher quality that we all love so much. You have a set process for this? I know organic soil, perlite, vermiculite, worm castings, bat guano and humic acid/espom salts are a basic build. Care to elaborate?
I will definitely make a post on this after I get home. Here are my notes I have on my phone tho.

Oct 15th

Started soil mix. 3 gallon dry added .5 gallon of water slowly with cup. Mixed the perlite in thoroughly (1gal). Added 5 cups EWC slowly mix in.

Mixed in 6-7TBSP of Azomite.

Oct 19th Slowly mixed 1.75 cups Garden Tone.

Oct 19th transplanted clones.

400w is too much for new clones. 200 watts 24 inches away until they are in 1 gal pots.

Nov 12th

1 batch made at 12:40

Next time try 2 gallon perlite

DEC 29th

3 gallons soil + 2 gallons perlite + .5 gallon water approx

Aloha 3 weeks in got top dress of fresh batch 3 coffee cups. Also 2 cups of half mix and half ewc on top of that. Will be monitoring.

New mix has 3g promix + 2 gallon perlite + 2.25 cups garden tone.

Next bin 2.5 cups Garden tone


My recipe is still changing.

I think next run it should be close to perfect with a tea once or twice.
 

Flaming Pie

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Awesome work Pie. Have you done the EWC teas for awhile now or are you just beginning to amend your own recipe to go through a whole cycle with just water? I've been doing a lot of research on the subject of EWC and organic amendments etc and I think its something I really wanna try next round. Trying to veer from straight hydro to a more streamlined organic approach so I can get that higher quality that we all love so much. You have a set process for this? I know organic soil, perlite, vermiculite, worm castings, bat guano and humic acid/espom salts are a basic build. Care to elaborate?
Well you want to mix everything up 3-4 weeks before use. There is not much available to the plants until the microbes start digesting the organic bits in the soil. The plant will put out food for the microbes so they will share the nutrients.

Another important thing is to make sure the added perlite makes up at least 33% of the volume of the entire mix. Say you use 3 gallons of promix/peat you want 2 gallons of chunky perlite.

About 10% of the mix can be EWC. You don't want much more than that. You can always top dress later in flower with it but too much in the actual mix can cause it to become waterlogged.

Epsom salt can be watered in. It dissolves almost immediately into water. I do it 2-3 times through out the plants lives @ 1 tsp per gallon.

AZOMITE!!!! Very important! Contains almost every trace nutrient and micro nutrient.

Nute mix you can make your own or just go with quality bagged organic amendments.

I spent so much time reading about organic mixes before I made one.

I know garden tone is treating me right. It needs to be increased in my mix a bit but it is working wonderfully.

Get some large bins and mix your soil in those. Add water to the peat enough to moisten evenly but do not drench I mix in one ingredient at a time by hand. Wear gloves. Be gentle adding ingredients to limit dust.

Make sure your amendments include beneficial bacteria and get a bag of xtreme mycos or fungi inoculation that contains the fungi intraradices. Any time you transplant take out some fungi and dip your roots in them.
 

Flaming Pie

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Got alot done today.

Used 8 cups (half gallon) of tea on each plant and had enough left over to hit the clones and a bit for my soil mix.

Started two bins today but ran out of Garden Tone. bleh.

I'll get some tomorrow. I have been running around past two days to get supplies for ACT and had to drive out to my patients tonight to drop off some meds.

Just pinched the mains on my clones as lights will be going out soon.

I'm fucking tired.

(Plus I think someone poisoned my dogs. They both had horrible diarrhea last night and both have been puking all day. My daughter is toilet training now and peed on the couch. Twice. YAY cleaning!)
 
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