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SAPFO

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Top is Bid Buddha Cheese, bottom it says on the tag.

I watered them just with ph adjusted water, the Trainwreck is back to like, the cheese not. What the fuck keeps happening to them?
 

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laserbrn

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how often are you watering? What kind of lighting? How high is the light? Are you watering by hand and being diligent about it? It only takes a few extra hours of dryness or a few hours too many of moisture to make this happen. The one in the back looks like it's been underwatered and dried out. Sprouts are sensitive. Might consider putting a dome over the whole thing to keep moisture levels up for a week.
 

brasmith

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You might try putting them into their permanant home so their tap root has something to search for. As it looks now all the tap gets is a plastic tray, for a seedling that is pretty much a dead end.
 

laserbrn

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I agree with putting those plugs into a permanent home as well. I only keep them in the sponges until the sprouts come up, then it's into the permanent medium and on a watering schedule with pumps so I can't forget and screw the pooch. Let those roots have something to search for and make sure they are getting some water. Don't overdo it with the water, but definitely need water daily. Those sponges don't retain as much water as you might think.
 

SAPFO

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400w HPS is 90cm away. I was told to place it 40cm away on here 2 weeks ago and that fried 5 Greenhouse Cheese sprouts overnight. 1 survived.

Water twice per day, them cubes get dry, its 90 in my tent and thats with a fan blowing in and the side opened up in the day times.

Its been done before with the 400HPS many people tell me.

24hr light? thats what im running at the mo.

Ive now put them in their home and watered the rockwool, not the cube. Im guessing the roots will search for the water right?

One drooped the other day, I put a plastic cup over it and a few hours later it was ok. Recon I should stick them in the propagator under the light?

Never grew from seed.
 

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laserbrn

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400w HPS is 90cm away. I was told to place it 40cm away on here 2 weeks ago and that fried 5 Greenhouse Cheese sprouts overnight. 1 survived.

Water twice per day, them cubes get dry, its 90 in my tent and thats with a fan blowing in and the side opened up in the day times.

Its been done before with the 400HPS many people tell me.

24hr light? thats what im running at the mo.

Ive now put them in their home and watered the rockwool, not the cube. Im guessing the roots will search for the water right?

One drooped the other day, I put a plastic cup over it and a few hours later it was ok. Recon I should stick them in the propagator under the light?

Never grew from seed.
Yeah 90 is too hot. You can put them on 18/6 so that the lights can be off during the hottest hours of the day. You are going to need proper ventilation not just leaving the door open. Get a real fan and exhaust the heat from the grow area.
 

SAPFO

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One thing im confused about is when to start feeding them sprouts nutes and also if they were "born" last weekend, when do I flower?
 

laserbrn

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You aren't going to be feeding for a long time. They have enough stored nutrition to make it for about a month before really NEEDING nutes.

Remember throughout your entire growing career one key thing. Nutrients don't make plants bigger, lights make plants bigger. Don't add nutrients because you don't like the RATE at which your plant is growing.
 

brasmith

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You aren't going to be feeding for a long time. They have enough stored nutrition to make it for about a month before really NEEDING nutes.

Remember throughout your entire growing career one key thing. Nutrients don't make plants bigger, lights make plants bigger. Don't add nutrients because you don't like the RATE at which your plant is growing.

Very well put!
 

SAPFO

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So just PH adjusted water till then? Im putting less water in and they are looking better.

Im still confuesed to when I start a 4 week veg? or would I just start to flower at about 18" as someone said?
 

laserbrn

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Yes, just ph adjusted water. I don't consider my plants to really be in veg until they have about 3 nodes.

When the nodes start alternating is a good time to consider flowering. Before then the plants aren't really mature and while you can put them into flower, they just don't seem to produce as well. I've tried it and cut down in yeild was huge. Spend the extra couple of weeks and you'll be pleasantly surprised.
 

brasmith

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THe veg stage starts naturally. Once these pass the seedling stage they have gone into the veg or growth stage. The seedling stage has passed once they get their second to third set of true leaves, so they will be about about 2 weeks old at that time. But since thay are a bit delayed in their seedling stage then they may need an extra week of being a seedling to actaully see the second or third set of leaves.
 

SAPFO

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I got it, Ive got untill mid October then ive got to chop.

Also is there a way to stop the bottled PH adjusted water from jumping every day?
 

laserbrn

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when you have that kind of time constraint, use it to your advantage. Count back about 11 weeks from "Must-Chop" time. Veg until then. It usually takes about 9 weeks to flower, so you'll have about a 2 week overrage in case anything goes wrong or they are just longer flowering.
 
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