Flowamasta's Grow No.3 indica clone-harvest grow Journal! 1 PLANT!!! 600wattHPS

macrael

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one thing i have notice between the two is theres way more hair on sativas and indicas tend to have more bulb looking things with not as much hair and another way to tell is by bud density sativas always a long bud and more sparce , indicas could be long but are really compact and dense. and most of the cannibus cup winners are sativa dominant strains not all of them. kush is more indica which i find to be a temper mental bud to grow.sativas will grow in almost any condition as long as it s not freezing!your strain is probibly a 50 50 cut or 60 40 sativa which has the best of both worlds a 50 50 strain can look like one or the other !
 
flowamasta

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forgetiwashere said:
Hey flowie if u wanted your indoor to have bud structure more like your outdoories don't use cyco flower and they will stretch out more. But under false lights it is probably best to stick with what your doing. Can't argue with the results. Looking real good ad always. In starting my next grow log soon I will let u know when I do. It would be cool if you popped in
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oh i will be on your tail don't you worry! i'm keen to see ho cyco treats you! ;)
and i'll be only using part a PGR if i need to stop stretch, and only quarter strength part B, maybe this will help achieve a more natural look ???

good to see you back here man!

billcollector99 said:
Whats your humidity?
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40%-50% with my evap cooler going! and 30 degrees check pic 4....., just bought another new fan as an addition to the other side of the plant, help with my transpiration, i noticed a few sweaty leaves on the right side, so thought i'd address this early, nice new $80 tower fan, I've been skeptical of the fans, but this one i tested, and created plenty of airflow for my girl, plus the other 40cm cyclone fan i have, plus my 1 cooling the globe! plus my extraction fan! that's 5 fans in total, for 1 plant!

here's an update...day 28!!

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daveroller

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Nice setup with the cooler and the fans! What kind of netting is that? I need something like that.

Excellent pictures now with your new camera, btw!
 
forgetiwashere

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hey flowie dont go changing up your system on my advice im a total amateur. just saying if u didnt use pgrs u would have the long colas like on your outdoory, but i like how your plant looks indoors using the pgr's, taking all that bud and jamming it down tight with no stretch makes them buds fat as!!
 
flowamasta

flowamasta

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daveroller said:
Nice setup with the cooler and the fans! What kind of netting is that? I need something like that.

Excellent pictures now with your new camera, btw!
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it's just cheap nylon 120ml squares, 1.2 metres wide, thatnx bout the new cam!, havent tested it with a magnify lens yet, still trying to find it, doesn't look like i need it though ey :) i also have the evap cooler feeding ice cold air into the inlet at the front of the tent, soo happy i bought the cooler, made a massive differnce!

forgetiwashere said:
hey flowie dont go changing up your system on my advice im a total amateur. just saying if u didnt use pgrs u would have the long colas like on your outdoory, but i like how your plant looks indoors using the pgr's, taking all that bud and jamming it down tight with no stretch makes them buds fat as!!
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thanx heaps man, i actually want less fat buds this time, i was right on the edge of budrot last grow, football sized nugs too big when they are this dense. i figure if i let it stretch a it more the leaves will have a slightly longer stem to them, and be able to photosynthesize better. Don't get me wrong, i'll still be using it, but maybe in increments through the week, i'll hit flower, let her stretch for a few days, then maybe hit her with quarter strength Part a, if she handles that fine i'll think about going half strength with Part B, get the flowers happening quickly, i got about 1 more week of veg, so i really need her to stretch now, give or take a couple of days, i'm sure the undergrowth will catch up once i cut some clones.
 
[420]Haze

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flowamasta said:
it's just cheap nylon 120ml squares, 1.2 metres wide, thatnx bout the new cam!, havent tested it with a magnify lens yet, still trying to find it, doesn't look like i need it though ey :) i also have the evap cooler feeding ice cold air into the inlet at the front of the tent, soo happy i bought the cooler, made a massive differnce!



thanx heaps man, i actually want less fat buds this time, i was right on the edge of budrot last grow, football sized nugs too big when they are this dense. i figure if i let it stretch a it more the leaves will have a slightly longer stem to them, and be able to photosynthesize better. Don't get me wrong, i'll still be using it, but maybe in increments through the week, i'll hit flower, let her stretch for a few days, then maybe hit her with quarter strength Part a, if she handles that fine i'll think about going half strength with Part B, get the flowers happening quickly, i got about 1 more week of veg, so i really need her to stretch now, give or take a couple of days, i'm sure the undergrowth will catch up once i cut some clones.
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hey flowa, quick question, i have added a second pump to my system, i have 2 lines incoming to res, pump 1 is top feeder pump, pump 2 is on 24/7, it pushes water into base of first pot, once that gets to tube level it spills into next pot base, then to next, then it is pushed back via the 2nd line back to the res, it creates an undercurrent so there is never any stagnant nute/water in any pots base, i found i had big ph and ppm jumps daily, due to the excess stagant water in the base pots that sits there between feeds ( of course the overflow runs back to res but there is always a 1/4" to 1/2" of water that does not drain ), By creating undercurrent, it will remove all spikes as feed is always moving and being oxygenated and mixed, do you get spikes or do you run undercurrent also ???
 
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[420]Haze;7089854 said:
hey flowa, quick question, i have added a second pump to my system, i have 2 lines incoming to res, pump 1 is top feeder pump, pump 2 is on 24/7, it pushes water into base of first pot, once that gets to tube level it spills into next pot base, then to next, then it is pushed back via the 2nd line back to the res, it creates an undercurrent so there is never any stagnant nute/water in any pots base, i found i had big ph and ppm jumps daily, due to the excess stagant water in the base pots that sits there between feeds ( of course the overflow runs back to res but there is always a 1/4" to 1/2" of water that does not drain ), By creating undercurrent, it will remove all spikes as feed is always moving and being oxygenated and mixed, do you get spikes or do you run undercurrent also ???
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good bloody question mate, i can answer it aswell :)
as i have a recirculating system with my return line at the lowest point on my hempy, i have to have my buckets raised so that i do not have any stagnant water, the top bucket that sits inside the first is about 2 inches off the bottom so it allows for good drainage. The whole hempy system sits about 8 inches off the ground, so it doesn't flood my buckets, as the return is gravity fed. I have an air stone in my res, keeping it oxygenated aswell as moving around. i feed for 15 minute intervals every 3 hrs at the moment, as this gives me a good humidity level, as the pump feeds the nutrient quickly passes through my perlite and continues out the bottom and straight down into the return line, thus creating a stream of current, continuously circulating the nutrient, and the plant can only uptake a certain amount of water/nutrient ratio. my ph stays at around 6.4 at the start of fresh nute change, but quickly drops off to 5.7-6.0 by the 3rd or 4th day, indicating that it has used up the nutrient. i have found now that with this 100% perlite medium the ph is very unstable if you play with it, so it's best to adjust in minor increments at the start because when it drops, it's very easy to drop too far once nutrient levels get used up.

hope that helps, feel free to clarify if need be
 
Keeno88

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Holy shit I Think im in love !. Im new to indoor growing wondered if you could help me figure out how you get them so damn bushy . I was over at a friends house and he has been growing for a while so I decided to take a crack at it planted one of my own in his tent visiting daily and mine just seemed to grow upwards with very few stems unlike your monster plants. Any advice for a newbie :lol:
 
[420]Haze

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flowamasta said:
good bloody question mate, i can answer it aswell :)
as i have a recirculating system with my return line at the lowest point on my hempy, i have to have my buckets raised so that i do not have any stagnant water, the top bucket that sits inside the first is about 2 inches off the bottom so it allows for good drainage. The whole hempy system sits about 8 inches off the ground, so it doesn't flood my buckets, as the return is gravity fed. I have an air stone in my res, keeping it oxygenated aswell as moving around. i feed for 15 minute intervals every 3 hrs at the moment, as this gives me a good humidity level, as the pump feeds the nutrient quickly passes through my perlite and continues out the bottom and straight down into the return line, thus creating a stream of current, continuously circulating the nutrient, and the plant can only uptake a certain amount of water/nutrient ratio. my ph stays at around 6.4 at the start of fresh nute change, but quickly drops off to 5.7-6.0 by the 3rd or 4th day, indicating that it has used up the nutrient. i have found now that with this 100% perlite medium the ph is very unstable if you play with it, so it's best to adjust in minor increments at the start because when it drops, it's very easy to drop too far once nutrient levels get used up.

hope that helps, feel free to clarify if need be
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Totally understand and appreciate the info, good to know for future setups of the same nature, cheers flowa and + Rep, this is what indoor growing is all about man, maximizing the space and elements you have to create a perfect environment where your plant thrives which clearly from your past grow is what youve done.
 
flowamasta

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Keeno88

i can say, have a nice read of my thread from the start, i explain the best way i can growin my style, and if you have any questions regarding anything like that feel free to ask, as for the info you have given me, very basic information, unable to give you much of an answer. i can say if you want a bushy plant, then utilize good light, good circulation, and THE BEST medium you can buy. that is the biggest key to fast growing.

thanx for taking a look man! happy reading! my girl only 29 days old today, pics tonight, see how her trainings coming along :)
 
flowamasta

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grandaddypurped said:
Very nice update flow!! :leaf: That's a beautiful plant. ;-)

~Just did a BIG update on my journal as well...check it out brotha.~
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ohh i will be directly after this post mate ;)

thanx again.... this threads startin to move along now, guess people just gotta see the beauty in scrogging and topping ;) still more topping to come people!!! lots more.....sooon, day or 2

[420]Haze;7090415 said:
Totally understand and appreciate the info, good to know for future setups of the same nature, cheers flowa and + Rep, this is what indoor growing is all about man, maximizing the space and elements you have to create a perfect environment where your plant thrives which clearly from your past grow is what youve done.
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all good man! i'm feelin my plant this round, i feel like i have nature under my belt ;) bit more experience now, and learning from mistakes!! the cooler the better!, next grow i'm investing in a temp controller, and air cooled reflector, and starting a new strain a mate got hold of, incredible, i'm seeing it first hand.

it's amazing how quickly growing indoors you can gain knowledge, things happen soo fast you need to be on your game, and research, cause the moment something happens and you leave it too late, bad things can happen quickly, especially with hydro
 
flowamasta

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time to share some hippie love around!! now this girl just looooooooves my weed!, aint she a peach :bigjoint:

feel free to 'like' she just 'LOOOOVES' to surprize us fellow erbilists ;) :leaf:
 
Keeno88

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flowamasta said:
Keeno88

i can say, have a nice read of my thread from the start, i explain the best way i can growin my style, and if you have any questions regarding anything like that feel free to ask, as for the info you have given me, very basic information, unable to give you much of an answer. i can say if you want a bushy plant, then utilize good light, good circulation, and THE BEST medium you can buy. that is the biggest key to fast growing.


thanx for taking a look man! happy reading! my girl only 29 days old today, pics tonight, see how her trainings coming along :)
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Thanks For Replying Mate, Im gonna start with an apology I asked you without attempting any research in true noob style. If you dont mind I think im gonna take down some notes from your grow (my memory aint great) as well as taking in my research you mentioned a few times your research paid off could you recommend anywhere I have a two cannabis grow bibles by jorge cervantes other than that Im relying on websites and forums and I cant wait for the pics from tonight man ive never seen a plant this dark iin colour its SSSSCCCCHHHHWEEEEET !


Keep it up man !
 
flowamasta

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Keeno88 said:
Thanks For Replying Mate, Im gonna start with an apology I asked you without attempting any research in true noob style. If you dont mind I think im gonna take down some notes from your grow (my memory aint great) as well as taking in my research you mentioned a few times your research paid off could you recommend anywhere I have a two cannabis grow bibles by jorge cervantes other than that Im relying on websites and forums and I cant wait for the pics from tonight man ive never seen a plant this dark iin colour its SSSSCCCCHHHHWEEEEET !


Keep it up man !
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thanx mate, jorge cervantes knows his shit, and ed rosenthall growers bible, good ones, but still for hydro, technology is changing, best to stay upto date and use good quality nutrients and equipment. i myself have seen no bad results from CYCO nutrients, and even with people that have no clue, but if you are starting, then start properly, with quality. no good starting with shit, i try to look at the big picture, i'm gonna be smoking this bud for a loooong time, so i try to grow it the best i can. not working atm so i have all the time in the world to care for my girl and tend to her juicy needs.... am i talkin bout my girl or my plant?? oh well. i was born confused and infused
 
[420]Haze

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flowamasta said:
ohh i will be directly after this post mate ;)

thanx again.... this threads startin to move along now, guess people just gotta see the beauty in scrogging and topping ;) still more topping to come people!!! lots more.....sooon, day or 2



all good man! i'm feelin my plant this round, i feel like i have nature under my belt ;) bit more experience now, and learning from mistakes!! the cooler the better!, next grow i'm investing in a temp controller, and air cooled reflector, and starting a new strain a mate got hold of, incredible, i'm seeing it first hand.

it's amazing how quickly growing indoors you can gain knowledge, things happen soo fast you need to be on your game, and research, cause the moment something happens and you leave it too late, bad things can happen quickly, especially with hydro
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flowa, if you would like some help reducing your cost for your new parts, let me know, i can get them around wholesale price, adding those 2 items to your grow will make a huge difference to your elite setup, you should be able to push around 2.5 p out of the same system.
 
flowamasta

flowamasta

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[420]Haze;7090692 said:
flowa, if you would like some help reducing your cost for your new parts, let me know, i can get them around wholesale price, adding those 2 items to your grow will make a huge difference to your elite setup, you should be able to push around 2.5 p out of the same system.
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all good mate ;)

i know too many people, just wanted to get my basics going first make myself comfortable with growing, took me a couple to start to relax :)
I'm looking into a variable rate fan a mates using, bit of research first, u got me intrigued :bigjoint: i dont really care what it cost mate, i'm all into making things better, but still getting things of value, i got like 10 fans lying round the house, i test the hell out of shit, and obsess!
i have heard of crazy yield like that froma setup like mine, but it has to be the right strain, this strain takes alot of room up, being such large colas, if i had more vegging time i would have alot more changeability, i have to finish flowering before inspection ofcourse, so i have to start flowering before the 20th to get atleast 7 full weeks flowering. so fingers crossed on growth rate over the next few days. i need to take clones very soon otherwise i miss my window, so i need another 6 inches growth over the next 3 days
 
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:leaf:Update day 28:leaf:

vegging deliceously i might say!! growing nearly 2 inches a day, responding really wel to my new fan, no more sweaty leaves, everything is really perky! starting to smell like my trusted strain already :) the next few days are gonna be chronic! this stage is her fastest stage, just before I take clones. things are looking fine.

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