FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

Cococola36

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Woo Hoo :) Glad i made such an impression! it sounds like you may not be 100% keen on the whole 100% perlite idea?? is there something that doesn't sound right or you want to query anything perhaps? MOST hydro shops wont talk of perlite much especially the 100 litre bags you need to fill 2 pots ( mine is only 1 ofcourse ) The reason being is they dont make enough money for the size and load they require. Coco is a huge money maker for them, think of this.... a 50 litre coco bag is NOT going to fill a 50 litre pot, 50 litres of perlite easily will..... Perlite also holds no germs or bugs, and is practically as clean as you want to keep it. 50 litres of coco : $30 ... 100 litres of coarse perlite = $30 + i can cut my veg time considerably because roots have a much harder time adjusting to crappy coco compared to perlite. I really am trying to get this out there as if you want the fastest growing medium there is, then no question perlite wins in the garden. Cannabis is a 'softwood' plant and therefore will require a more airy medium for faster more vigorous growth. Something like a pine tree is 'hardwood' and will require MUCH less oxygen and therefore something like sand will be no problem. Hardware stores sell perlite, look hard or ask as to get in large bags as down the isles they usually only have small bags for cloning and such.

You will have no problem comparing :) Feel free to post some pics pre-op ;) 2 plants will fill that area faster than you could ever imagine with good lighting and reflective sides. The thing is, once you go past that 3rd week when they start to look big...... look out, because if yo dont manage them early in my system, they grow to the roof in the same time i veg in ;)


I actually am in my 2 week of flower using my first all perlite hempy's :) I am doing a small test run to see how they do and I am impressed for sure...But since its my first time i used 3 gal containers on 4 clones and an auto flower, I'm already sold on bumping my container size up and doing less plants next run. Only problem is i have to wait on other plants in coco to finish up as they are in 2 week of flower as well. Don't want to intrude on your post but figured i'd show u a pic. I did originally post this pic in the world of hempy thread
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Mohican

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No Peeps - that was not an earthquake. It was just the sound of my jaw hitting the floor!!!!





Dude this is spectacular! How many grows have you finished since I had my one?



I did some gardening today:































Cheers,
Mo
 

onthedl0008

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Thats really not much of a way to ask. Yeah, Hi, who are you? and asking for help using only cfls.....
Tip no.1 Get some better lighting.
Tip no.2 Learn some manners.

Ok then, sorry been away for a couple of days, been really busy, i got a beautiful update for you all!! here is day 37 Flowering.

Resin is in peak production now. There is no stopping her. She doesn't even need any more food, but she gets her 50% strength feed this week, and dilute down until the last week or so of flushing :) not long now!!! She is very weighty. density is quite remarkable to, so i have got plenty of weight in there.

enjoy!!! Base Bloom A+B @ 50% strength. Silica @ 2ml., swell @ 2ml, blueberry nectar @ 2.5ml. The room smells quite subtle at the moment, but i can smell hints of pure dank creeping out now and then, the filters are doing a pretty good job, not that i'm out much lately. It is a battle to keep humidity down, its hangin in at around 65% which is ok for now, but cannot let it get higher so my ventilation has been turned up a notch all round to give the plant some evaporation.

Excellent man crazy healthy great job here. Peace
 

gigathnx

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good stuff flowa, im loving this thread and its giving me so many ideas for my next grow :)
just one question tho, what kind of spray ring are you using for your pot? im trying to copy you as closely as i can for next grow :)
 

flowamasta

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Maaaaate that is some seriously beautiful bud porn bro :-)
Do you by chance have a pic of your last grow at this time you could put up for a comparison? Im leaning towards these buds being a fair bit denser than your last grow hey! I love it man. The Masta is in action, stand to attention :-)
Thankyou kindly :)

Ofcourse i have a pic of last grow, and day 37 to be exact also :) here she is, followed by current.



and current grow below.



Its a close grow indeed. hmmmmmm thoughts anyone?


I actually am in my 2 week of flower using my first all perlite hempy's :) I am doing a small test run to see how they do and I am impressed for sure...But since its my first time i used 3 gal containers on 4 clones and an auto flower, I'm already sold on bumping my container size up and doing less plants next run. Only problem is i have to wait on other plants in coco to finish up as they are in 2 week of flower as well. Don't want to intrude on your post but figured i'd show u a pic. I did originally post this pic in the world of hempy thread
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Gorgeous man!!! awesome plants, get the tinsel happening its christmas mate!!! Nice, neat, and very healthy! great work.

No Peeps - that was not an earthquake. It was just the sound of my jaw hitting the floor!!!!


Dude this is spectacular! How many grows have you finished since I had my one?



I did some gardening today:




























Cheers,
Mo
lol :) You crazy awesome man :) a chainsaw, give me nightmares why dont you :p I'm going to get eaten by a weed plant in my sleep!

Legendary. So awesome.

Excellent man crazy healthy great job here. Peace
Thankyou kindly :) great to see a newb here.

good stuff flowa, im loving this thread and its giving me so many ideas for my next grow :)
just one question tho, what kind of spray ring are you using for your pot? im trying to copy you as closely as i can for next grow :)
Ha! :) Another one!! Good man, love ya style. The ring isnt very complicated, just a feed ring from a hardware store, around 8-12 inches in diamater, doesn'rt matter as long as it drenches the medium all the way to the outside of the pot. Good luck man!! Easiest system there is. By the looks of my results it isn't the worst either ;)
 

eastcoastmo

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Geez bro, she is pretty close to on par with your last hey :) i was sure those buds were looking fatter! The only difference i can maybe make out is a few extra colas this time :-) other than that though im actually amazed how similar they are!! Beautiful mate, just beautiful!
 

flowamasta

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Geez bro, she is pretty close to on par with your last hey :) i was sure those buds were looking fatter! The only difference i can maybe make out is a few extra colas this time :-) other than that though im actually amazed how similar they are!! Beautiful mate, just beautiful!
It maybe hard to imagine, but the tent is actually slightly larger now so if you keep that in mind, you have to step back a bit and see that i have taken the shot from bout another foot back or so, i have managed to fit an average of 8 colas on my outer rim, each side and last grow i only managed 6 each. Given the extra colas in the centre mass, and extra growth and thickness in buds under the main canopy....... I think i'm easily safe clearing next grows yields. Someone asked are my buds more dense this round.. i forgot who sorry!, but YES they are indeed maybe 20-30% more dense, and still incredibly resinous. I would most likely say that i have some half ounce colas scattered everywhere in there. Some are ridiculous, they really are, my fist looks tiny up against them. A good Queensland Mango Size! lol couple of branches look like they may snap so i'll go in there tonight and give extra support, the thing is i criss-crossed some branches, and as they are becoming heavier they are leaning on each other pushing others in different directions.

I can't wait to try this stuff. The smell has gone from subtle the day before, now its going pungent berry and apple pie smell!!!???, with a hint of orange citrus..... that is enticing.
 

Shaggn

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Sweet, imo there is more there than any of your previous ladies. Can't really tell how much considering density and what is hidden just under the main canopy. You say the density is that much more, plus the tent is a lil bigger and there are more colas on the outer edge, Win win situation!! . Mmmm berry n apple pie with a spritz of orange, u say! Awesomeness all around :) Flowa, u prove round after round just how green your thumb is. My hat is off to u my friend!!
 

eastcoastmo

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It maybe hard to imagine, but the tent is actually slightly larger now so if you keep that in mind, you have to step back a bit and see that i have taken the shot from bout another foot back or so, i have managed to fit an average of 8 colas on my outer rim, each side and last grow i only managed 6 each. Given the extra colas in the centre mass, and extra growth and thickness in buds under the main canopy....... I think i'm easily safe clearing next grows yields. Someone asked are my buds more dense this round.. i forgot who sorry!, but YES they are indeed maybe 20-30% more dense, and still incredibly resinous. I would most likely say that i have some half ounce colas scattered everywhere in there. Some are ridiculous, they really are, my fist looks tiny up against them. A good Queensland Mango Size! lol couple of branches look like they may snap so i'll go in there tonight and give extra support, the thing is i criss-crossed some branches, and as they are becoming heavier they are leaning on each other pushing others in different directions.

I can't wait to try this stuff. The smell has gone from subtle the day before, now its going pungent berry and apple pie smell!!!???, with a hint of orange citrus..... that is enticing.
HA HA HA bro thats wicked, i hadnt even considered that hey. Now that i look at it again you are so right! Half oz colas is ridiculous man, that is so awesome! Sounds like it smells unbelievable to dude, i'll say it again, i wish they would invent smelly internet, that would be wicked!
Top job again bro, i reckon 2lb easy this time :-) you are THE Masta after all ;)
 

jazzyjsd18

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Lookin amazing, Flowa! I have yet another question for you. Here in the states, nobody supplies Pot Sox or anything comparable (that I know of). Do you think cheesecloth or silk screen would work as a filter for the perlite? Maybe even some fiberglass door screen? If not, got any suggestions to something similar? Thanks for your time! Happy growin'
 

jazzyjsd18

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Lookin amazing, Flowa! I have yet another question for you. Here in the states, nobody supplies Pot Sox or anything comparable (that I know of). Do you think cheesecloth or silk screen would work as a filter for the perlite? Maybe even some fiberglass door screen? If not, got any suggestions to something similar? Thanks for your time! Happy growin'
 

flowamasta

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Sweet, imo there is more there than any of your previous ladies. Can't really tell how much considering density and what is hidden just under the main canopy. You say the density is that much more, plus the tent is a lil bigger and there are more colas on the outer edge, Win win situation!! . Mmmm berry n apple pie with a spritz of orange, u say! Awesomeness all around :) Flowa, u prove round after round just how green your thumb is. My hat is off to u my friend!!
I can't wait to try some of this, no burnt tips, and shes swollen like a broken thumb!! I cant get over some of the calyx's on her!!! FAAAAAAT, so juicy, wait till you see the pics later tonight, mrs wants the pc for a bit. Colours GALORE!!! I'll just keep typing till she comes in :p

HA HA HA bro thats wicked, i hadnt even considered that hey. Now that i look at it again you are so right! Half oz colas is ridiculous man, that is so awesome! Sounds like it smells unbelievable to dude, i'll say it again, i wish they would invent smelly internet, that would be wicked!
Top job again bro, i reckon 2lb easy this time :-) you are THE Masta after all ;)
LOL :) I can't believe i gave myself such a cocky name hehe! Gotta be to get my msg out there i guess!!! I bet there are more than a few who wish not to even click this thread thinkin i'm a dodgy know-all..... Oh well!! i mean, its all here for them to try out if they like. Alot more simple than swappin round 24 plants in a room and only getting 24 decent heads..... I want 3 times that, with 1 plant. why not hey ;)

cheers for being here man!!

Lookin amazing, Flowa! I have yet another question for you. Here in the states, nobody supplies Pot Sox or anything comparable (that I know of). Do you think cheesecloth or silk screen would work as a filter for the perlite? Maybe even some fiberglass door screen? If not, got any suggestions to something similar? Thanks for your time! Happy growin'
just drill some holes in the bottom of the inside pot. Atleast 20 or so about 5mm or 4mm holes..... clean them well each grow with HOT water and thoroughly, those holes will hold bacteria in the long run!

update coming later tonight!!!
 

flowamasta

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Day 39 Flowering. Top up with 1ml of blueberry nectar, and 2ml of Swell, i also added 1ml of silica to help stabalise the nutrients.

Cheers people!! a nice pipe loaded up with some awesome 73 micron bubble and some 20 micron dry ice hash followed by some golden honey oil to absolutely blitz me!!!



This could be my new favourite pic below!!! Beautiful colours. She's so sexy :p Her leaves are the darkest i've ever had.

 

remyaz0

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Always enjoy your pics man, usually just lurk but ive been looking for buckets that big without drainage holes? Did ya get them online? Sorry if its been asked before I tried searching for it.
I got a similar tent/light setup but run 5gal dwc buckets wanted to try your way for a grow..see how it work out comparing yield... Growing with a plant limit this could be interesting to keep several mothers.. while not breaking law.

Closest ive found is http://www.amazon.com/Miller-Manufacturing-PSB70BLACK-Bucket-70-Quart/dp/B001AHAWIW/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lg_1 but im not 100% it work out the same so figured id ask.

Considered a Rubbermaid tub but wanted to try the perlite over DWC.

Cant wait to see pics of another successful harvest, they are looking great.
 

eastcoastmo

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I can't wait to try some of this, no burnt tips, and shes swollen like a broken thumb!! I cant get over some of the calyx's on her!!! FAAAAAAT, so juicy, wait till you see the pics later tonight, mrs wants the pc for a bit. Colours GALORE!!! I'll just keep typing till she comes in :p


LOL :) I can't believe i gave myself such a cocky name hehe! Gotta be to get my msg out there i guess!!! I bet there are more than a few who wish not to even click this thread thinkin i'm a dodgy know-all..... Oh well!! i mean, its all here for them to try out if they like. Alot more simple than swappin round 24 plants in a room and only getting 24 decent heads..... I want 3 times that, with 1 plant. why not hey ;)

cheers for being here man!!


just drill some holes in the bottom of the inside pot. Atleast 20 or so about 5mm or 4mm holes..... clean them well each grow with HOT water and thoroughly, those holes will hold bacteria in the long run!

update coming later tonight!!!
Ah its all good bro, you are very deserving of the name! If peeps dont want to see how awesome your method is that's their bad luck :) im stoked to be here bro, no getting rid of me now lol


Damn these new pics are unreal! You're right about the pic too, she is just one sexy bitch :-) and there is A LOT of colas there, i cant imagine whats under the canopy ;)
 

flowamasta

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Always enjoy your pics man, usually just lurk but ive been looking for buckets that big without drainage holes? Did ya get them online? Sorry if its been asked before I tried searching for it.
I got a similar tent/light setup but run 5gal dwc buckets wanted to try your way for a grow..see how it work out comparing yield... Growing with a plant limit this could be interesting to keep several mothers.. while not breaking law.

Closest ive found is http://www.amazon.com/Miller-Manufacturing-PSB70BLACK-Bucket-70-Quart/dp/B001AHAWIW/ref=pd_sim_sbs_lg_1 but im not 100% it work out the same so figured id ask.

Considered a Rubbermaid tub but wanted to try the perlite over DWC.

Cant wait to see pics of another successful harvest, they are looking great.
Thanx for the kind compliments man!

I took a look at that bucket....... Not recommended man sorry but that type of plastic is not usually UV resistant. Heat and temp changes must be considered and that plastic will crack after a few days with the weight in it. Unless ofcourse it states that it is weather resistant.
This is a great idea for any legal grower as for keeping plant numbers down well some say they are allowed 24 plants!!?? If i was allowed 24 plants i could potentially harvest a minimum of 24 lbs and upwards of more likely 36 lbs!!!! and need alot more space than 1 house, i would need an old hospital block LOL, 2 plants per room hehe 'patient 1 & 2 for their nutrient feed... patient 1 & 2 ' You won't need more than 4 plants in order to get a minimum of 4-5 lbs. Use good reflective material, good lighting and cooling, clean liquid nutes and flush regularly you'll be on the same track as me no prob.

Many are finding out how easy my system is now, i'm sure its more than 10 just this year alone interested in how this all works! When they find out and realize how simple it all is, they get to it that weekend lol!!! I've helped an older 58 yr old dude setup 1 like mine, and he has no problem keeping things in check.

Ah its all good bro, you are very deserving of the name! If peeps dont want to see how awesome your method is that's their bad luck :) im stoked to be here bro, no getting rid of me now lol


Damn these new pics are unreal! You're right about the pic too, she is just one sexy bitch :-) and there is A LOT of colas there, i cant imagine whats under the canopy ;)
:) Thanx Easty :) It has become a 'method' i guess!! strange how its caught on so fast really, I actually thought more were doing it like this, especially with all the time for testing and such! I cant see why so many do it any other way, wasting so much electricity and time! I see some people vegging for 2 months and not even getting a lb!!!?? thats over 4 months growing. The globe has had it by the end and just putting out heat..... not to mention all that time for bacteria or mould spores to start growing. Hydro Has and always should be about trying to get it done fast, and the best way possible. My method has been tweaked a little by me, but the basic setup and system is easy to follow though.

The underneath flowers are looking great :) MUUUUUUUUCH better than usual! and some are actually quite big! fallin over hangin upside down! you name it
 

eastcoastmo

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Absolutely dude, im not sure why more people dont do it your way as well, im very excited to be doing next ;) ive always used perlite as a medium, i just used it in smaller pots that sat in the res with a cover to stop light getting in the res. i always pulled some great buds but no where near what you do off one plant! If i had this info 10 years ago id be a rich man lol!

Holy crap mate, you're in for a bumper harvest if the bottom buds are falling over already :-)
 

queasy

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Wow Flowa... I found this thread a while ago... Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I'd really like to try to grow this way...I was wondering, do you think I'd be good to use a grow bag like root trapper inside of the bucket? (Instead of the "Pot Sock") Thanks again, bro.
 
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