Flower prices falling

Elsembrador said:
So for instance the other day I went to some dudes place he was selling gear and he showed me his stuff and it was all mids he by 7 years selling mids!! That won’t fly anymore it’s either top product or you will be flushed out!
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I have been in Denver for 10 years or so. For years I have watched homies get by selling mids while I focused on quality and often saw smaller harvests as a result.

Shit is tough out there now. Many friends are loosing a lifestyle and don’t have other skills.
 
nurrgle said:
I have been in Denver for 10 years or so. For years I have watched homies get by selling mids while I focused on quality and often saw smaller harvests as a result.

Shit is tough out there now. Many friends are loosing a lifestyle and don’t have other skills.
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Bingo ! These dudes did not think ahead of the wave now they are trying to find jobs. So I put a pause growing since in 2012 when Feds came crashing in on SoCal but now I have a solid job and can undercut these dudes. So that’s the goal for me is to put out top quality and under cut their prices! The goal is to make these guys fucking up the market go broke
 
Quality won't save you. Big Businesses can produce quality too, who do you think makes Dom Perignon? How many people are earning a living by brewing in their kitchen? None. If you want to earn a living brewing beer you have to have a licensed brewery where you can make a lot of beer because you can't charge black market prices.

Beer is a perfect example. Like beer but unlike wine, Cannabis doesn't have the cultural cachet that turns it into a Veblen good and gives a very wide price range that supports "garagistes" who don't own vineyards or wineries. There are no oligarchs buying cases of Pliny pre-harvest for thousands per bottle just to impress people. No German beer auctions.
 
Observe & Report said:
Quality won't save you. Big Businesses can produce quality too, who do you think makes Dom Perignon? How many people are earning a living by brewing in their kitchen? None. If you want to earn a living brewing beer you have to have a licensed brewery where you can make a lot of beer because you can't charge black market prices.

Beer is a perfect example. Like beer but unlike wine, Cannabis doesn't have the cultural cachet that turns it into a Veblen good and gives a very wide price range that supports "garagistes" who don't own vineyards or wineries. There are no oligarchs buying cases of Pliny pre-harvest for thousands per bottle just to impress people. No German beer auctions.
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Very true I like the what you point out but just like beer there those who really enjoy fine homemade craft that can be cheaper and more fulfilling than the big business product
 
TacoMac said:
I get White Widow seeds from ILGM whenever they run a sale, which is pretty often. Right now, it's buy 10 get 10 more for 110 dollars.

That's $5.50 per seed. I've never gotten less than 4 ounces out of a WW seed from ILGM.
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Wait wait wait... you not referring to WW autos from ilgm are you?
 
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I personally believe it will NEVER be federally legal so that will keep prices up somewhat. It will def NEVER be legal in my state. Penalty is instant jail for just 1 plant, fuck an ounce is jail time. Here $300 an oz for med-top shelf $150oz for brown Mexican garbage.
 
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jtrizzy said:
I personally believe it will NEVER be federally legal so that will keep prices up somewhat. It will def NEVER be legal in my state. Penalty is instant jail for just 1 plant, fuck an ounce is jail time. Here $300 an oz here for med-top shelf $150oz for brown Mexican garbage.
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Interesting ...... where would this be ??
 
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70's natureboy said:
150/oz for kill bud and 150/oz for basic shit. You have to shop around.
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Got rid of this this morning for £150's,On oz.The taste on this was really nice.I go has far has to say one of the best taste i have smoked for a while,Real Fruity,The smallest of the 3 phenos.The kid that bought it does ,1 gram for a tenner or 3 gram for £25
 
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mr. childs said:
how did you create these to become this size ? i have some dream lotus x pleiadian love nest seeds that are this size. biggest beans ive seen other than cherry hashplant.
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I didn't do anything special. I had a very handsome CBD God male that I crossed with a few strains. Those seeds came from a cross of that male and a female Night Nurse. It was also crossed with a White Widow and Critical Kush. Only the Night Nurse seeds were that big. The White Widow cross was normal and the Critical Kush cross produced small seeds.

They are some of the biggest seeds I've seen.
 
Wholesale cannabis prices could hit as low as $30 an ounce in some parts of the country by Christmas as another record crop of outdoor cannabis floods markets and sinks prices.

For example, the legal recreational market in Oregon continues to drown in a multi-year surplus. Oregon produced 10 times the cannabis it needs each year, and approximately 825,000 pounds of unsold dried wholesale flower now sits in the state’s tracking system

https://www.dopeytimes.com/dopey-10...-washington-and-oregon-2018-harvest-forecast/
 
Observe & Report said:
Quality won't save you. Big Businesses can produce quality too, who do you think makes Dom Perignon? How many people are earning a living by brewing in their kitchen? None. If you want to earn a living brewing beer you have to have a licensed brewery where you can make a lot of beer because you can't charge black market prices.

Beer is a perfect example. Like beer but unlike wine, Cannabis doesn't have the cultural cachet that turns it into a Veblen good and gives a very wide price range that supports "garagistes" who don't own vineyards or wineries. There are no oligarchs buying cases of Pliny pre-harvest for thousands per bottle just to impress people. No German beer auctions.
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Yes and no... My situation is somewhat unique as it is legal yet still around 250 an ounce. Once more shops open up, prices should fall, but there's still going to be a market for homegrown and delivered bud. If a person can keep their costs low enough, competition with dispensaries won't be an issue, and people will always pay, and usually extra, for convenience. You wanna take the risk, bud delivery will pay.

Also, weed isn't quite like beer or wine. There are communities that prefer to pretend to be hippies and don't want to buy "Monsanto" bud. Also, if you look at something as simple as tobacco, people were willing to take the risk of smuggling in Cuban cigars even though many of the premier cigar families moved to the Dominican Republic when the embargo was imminent. Weed isn't beer, it's weed. I don't think that the home grower is out of this race quite yet.

Oh, and a thought I'll share with a lot of others, the real money is going to be in manufacturing nutes/additives or lighting.
 
Well I believe theres a lot of shitty weed just sitting because casual users love quality and it never sits the problem with the industry is too many regular joes are growing and haven’t had experience in the concept so their crops are usually c grade maybe b if they get lucky. So I see those lbs sitting going to waste and those people going broke thus leveling the market back to where quality will be superior and go back up
 
Up here is slightly different by the sounds of things. It’s now been legal for two months and available online provincially. The prices are reducules and they are running out of stock. I buy lbs for $1000 (recent was AK 47). I have actually stopped growing indoors as it’s not really worth it for me. There will always be a place for those of us who have a network set up to work with. Not like the old days though lol. We started with loads of brick and made a fortune then it was sending the homegrown south when it was easy to do and were getting $1600-2000 us for 100lbs trips across the ditch. Glad I’m “semi” retired, still dabble to keep me young lol.
 
The real money in the legal states will be in the edibles and concentrates sold in the shops... not the flower. It's a slow process to see your market fade....but fade it will...unless you have everything on hand the dispensary has..."prices" and "quality" will not be the deciding factor for most shoppers. Most folks want to one-stop shop. The concentrates and the variety/selection in the shops are always gonna draw them in over them calling you for the one strain you are growing.."top shelf" or not. That's how it's played out here in CO anyway. Everybody on the side has weed for sale but they aren't moving much. We just give weed and hash away these days and hope folks toss something in the seed fund jar. That's about as good as it gets these days here. YMMV.
 
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