Flowering Foods with Higher Nitrogen content?

max316420

max316420

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Evlaar said:
sorry to hear about the plants man. i can promise you that what youre experiencing isnt a N deficiency though... during the first 2 weeks of flowering the plants use a bunch of phosphorus as well as nitrogen. you didnt see the P deficiency in veg because the plants dont need as much. I personally use peruvian seabird guano (10-10-2) along with the rest of my nutrient program for the first 2 weeks of flower because it includes the necessary nitrogen for continued plant growth, as well as phosphorus for early bud production. i was done replying to this thread until i read you lost so many plants, so i figured id give it one more shot. different plants need different amounts of nutrients, as you must already know having been growing for years... so AN's nutrient schedule may not necessarily be exactly correct
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Do you mix that into your water (guano) or to your soil? I think with my new cuttings i'm gonna try Dutch masters GOLD, has anyone used it and if so how did you like it. I'm giving up on AN, and the link you gave the words on it are so small i can read it and if I zoom in it just distorts???
 
rollinronan

rollinronan

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none has even mentioned Ph................that would explain why their defficent dispite all the nutes u'v been giving them
when was the last time u tesetd???
 
max316420

max316420

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I test my water every watering (digital meter which is brand new and calibrated every time it is used) and adjust the ph to 6.3, thats what the tech guy at AN recommended
 
joseph112284

joseph112284

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Hey man I am having the same problem as you are in flowering. My claws on my leaves are turning brown and I am getting brownish/ orange rust spots on mine but I am low in N and K and not low in P. my levels are N-5.8 P-7.1 and K-5.8 for the suggestions to you with your plant and I am sure everyone else will agree with me. for a couple of waterings give your plant something with more N in it and less of the others I could suggest you get blood meal because it has a high nitogen and it should balance out your plant. but in my situation I am getting some ferts with more N-K because this is making my plant deficent. and when you suffer from one deficency you will lock up the others and just have one big problem on your hands. So in my opinion get something with higher nitrogen and less of the others and that will fix your problem. How does that sound? and what does everyone else think.
 
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Evlaar

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i completely agree with giving up on AN. i would aslo recommend not using dutch masters either. i usually make teas to water my plants, so i brew the guano into tea. otherwise, just top dressing the soil at the beginning of flowering with a few tablespoons would work wonders. if I were you, I would look into actively airated compost teas (AACT). using only a few (cheap) ingredients youll get better results than with the whole line of AN's expensive shit. Ive used AN before, as well as the whole line of general hydro, but when i switched to AACT ive been getting MUCH better results, and not to mention saving a bunch of money.
 
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Evlaar

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joseph112284 said:
Hey man I am having the same problem as you are in flowering. My claws on my leaves are turning brown and I am getting brownish/ orange rust spots on mine but I am low in N and K and not low in P. my levels are N-5.8 P-7.1 and K-5.8 for the suggestions to you with your plant and I am sure everyone else will agree with me. for a couple of waterings give your plant something with more N in it and less of the others I could suggest you get blood meal because it has a high nitogen and it should balance out your plant. but in my situation I am getting some ferts with more N-K because this is making my plant deficent. and when you suffer from one deficency you will lock up the others and just have one big problem on your hands. So in my opinion get something with higher nitrogen and less of the others and that will fix your problem. How does that sound? and what does everyone else think.
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you dont have N deficiency either. does anyone look things up on google? what youre talking about sounds more like a ph problem. when leaf tips turn brown and curl under, its usually ph. little brown/gold spots are also ph. anyone saying the OP has a nitrogen deficiency hasnt done any research on what a N deficiency looks like. ill tell you what i told op, but nobody has yet listened to me.

GO TO THIS LINK
http://www.ganjaguerrilla.net/index.htm

it WILL have the issue youre experiencing with a picture. you WILL correctly diagnose whatever problem youre having, rather than going with your bro-science.

let me post it once again
http://www.ganjaguerrilla.net/index.htm

and again
http://www.ganjaguerrilla.net/index.htm
 
max316420

max316420

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could you suggest any info i could get on making my own tea, was thinking about getting into it a couple of years ago but never followed up with it, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated cause i am getting sooooooo frustrated
 
max316420

max316420

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Evlaar said:
you dont have N deficiency either. does anyone look things up on google? what youre talking about sounds more like a ph problem. when leaf tips turn brown and curl under, its usually ph. little brown/gold spots are also ph. anyone saying the OP has a nitrogen deficiency hasnt done any research on what a N deficiency looks like. ill tell you what i told op, but nobody has yet listened to me.

GO TO THIS LINK
http://www.ganjaguerrilla.net/index.htm


it WILL have the issue youre experiencing with a picture. you WILL correctly diagnose whatever problem youre having, rather than going with your bro-science.

let me post it once again
http://www.ganjaguerrilla.net/index.htm

and again
http://www.ganjaguerrilla.net/index.htm
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Yes I have done my research and come to the conclusion that it IS a nitro def, I have also done alot of reading on here and it seems that most of the problems that i am having is a result of N def, i know its not PH cause that is the first thing I check and how would I get a P def from a bloomer that is made to provide lots of P? I do appreciate your info but gotta go with the majority vote of N def. Now my problem is which new food to use? Tried ff bb didn't really like so any suggestions on a food that I could use right after inducing flowering would be greatly appreciated.... I'm thinkin that they hype ADVANCED NUTRIENTS up to much, don't believe the hype unless you feel like spending tons of money of additives
 
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Evlaar

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haha. k. throw a bunch of nitrogen on it. all i'm saying is before you do, go to that link i gave you. look at the pictures of N deficiency, then look at the pictures of P deficiency, then look at pictures of K deficiency. the only one that it definitely ISNT is a nitrogen deficiency. good luck man.
 
mj320002

mj320002

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Some people can't be helped. Back in the day everyone used to say add epsom salt because everything was a cal mag problem. Now after Uncle Ben pointed out that lots of blooms foods lack N everyone claims N def no matter what the plants look like. If it was an N def it would start from the bottom and the leaves would turn yellow and then die. Your leaves are just turning brown from the tips. I still think it's nute burn but hey give them some more and see if it gets worse.

Evlaar said:
haha. k. throw a bunch of nitrogen on it. all i'm saying is before you do, go to that link i gave you. look at the pictures of N deficiency, then look at the pictures of P deficiency, then look at pictures of K deficiency. the only one that it definitely ISNT is a nitrogen deficiency. good luck man.
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max316420

max316420

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mj320002 said:
Some people can't be helped. Back in the day everyone used to say add epsom salt because everything was a cal mag problem. Now after Uncle Ben pointed out that lots of blooms foods lack N everyone claims N def no matter what the plants look like. If it was an N def it would start from the bottom and the leaves would turn yellow and then die. Your leaves are just turning brown from the tips. I still think it's nute burn but hey give them some more and see if it gets worse.
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Honestly I agree with it could possibly not be a N def, but I know its not nute burn because I fed these girls REAL lite and I mean really lite. Ok so just checked a few that I kept and noticed that there was some purple coloring towards the top on the upper fan leaves.... At this point I don't care who is right I just wanna fix it. I am losing tons of time and money, could someone rec a bloomer that i Don't have to add a whole bunch of additives too. And I know that N defs start at the bottom during VEG but does anyone know if the effects are the same in FLOWER cycle from lack of N (i.e. starting at the bottom?)
 
max316420

max316420

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mj320002 said:
Some people can't be helped. Back in the day everyone used to say add epsom salt because everything was a cal mag problem. Now after Uncle Ben pointed out that lots of blooms foods lack N everyone claims N def no matter what the plants look like. If it was an N def it would start from the bottom and the leaves would turn yellow and then die. Your leaves are just turning brown from the tips. I still think it's nute burn but hey give them some more and see if it gets worse.
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''Nitrogen is the biggest mobile element meaning it can travel anywhere on the plant.
Usually the def will start on the lower to middle part of the plant, and then will usually happen to older leaves first. Then the deficiency will work its way up the plant. Your plant can be green on top, then yellowing on the lower leaves when the deficiency is starting out. Yield will be greatly reduced without good amounts of nitrogen in your plants. Sometimes in bad cases the leaves will turn a purplish color along with the yellowing.''



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Sorry about the quality of the pic but as you can see they are turning purple with VERY stunted growth..

Here is the link to the info right here on RIU about N defs


http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688
 
ataxia

ataxia

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if i'm not too late or missed anyone else's post .....FLUSH. I understand your trouble with problems with yellowing when switching to bloom nutes. I haven't gotten this one figured out myself..... But your first pics looked like a cal/mag def or magnese and you're explaining all these different issues about different defs .... FLUSH ... get your water straight first ... then start feeding it what it needs... you have plenty of time to work it out. Anyone agree??
 
max316420

max316420

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They have already been flushed and I use RO water with about 10ppm and a PH of 6.3 The Pic to your left is what they looked like prior to the defs kicking in. I'm wondering that since my co2 ppm is so high the plant might be metabolizing faster and I'm not feeding them enough. And yes I know that they say RO water can cause cal/mag defs but I'm adding 1 teaspoon per gallon of calmag along with my food.
 
max316420

max316420

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your absolutely right i'm gonna stuff these bitch's and see what happens, but i would like to figure this out so i don't have future problems.... O and p.s. FUCK ADVANCED NUTRIENTS
 
max316420

max316420

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mj320002 said:
Order some dynagro bloom. Then throw all your additives away because you won't need them.
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I think that could be my problem, i'm not adding any additives only sensi bloom a and b, but i want something that is a complete food not like AN where you have to buy all the extra additives and blow all your hard earned money when you can get something else at prolly a quarter of the price and will do the exact same thing...
 
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