Fluorescent bulb question

Hey everyone, first post here, I am a growing beginner.
Just wanted to ask a simple question, I read through the stickies and I haven't found a clear answer.
I just received a Fluorescent lighting fixture which accommodates 4x bulbs. I have four 6500k bulbs and four 3000k bulbs.
My question is as follows, would I be best off leaving the 6500k bulbs in for the veg state, and then change to the 3000k bulbs for flowering? It seems that would be the best for growth, but who am I to tell. Thank you!

Or would a mixture of bulbs be best for all stages? As it stands the 6500k bulbs are in and over the plants, but, today is the first day I have this setup so I can change at any time.
 

logzz

Active Member
Im sure it was in there but 6500k is better for vegging 3500k is better for flowering I always mix during the veg maybe try 3 6500k and one 3500k good luck
 

greenquartz

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you got it right if cool grow warm flower and there is some debate on mixing the spectrums its up to each person truly it does help with growth
 

cazador

Active Member
I would stick with a mix of bulbs making sure their spectrum is acceptable for plant growth. The type of fixture you are using I would only use for starting and cloning and not for any long term grow to flower with. For that I'd look into something stronger. If you want /need to stay Fluorescent then at least go CFL 125W bulbs or larger.
 

cutman

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i have a 4 bulb flor... high lumens out put light. and it come with 2 t5 6500 and 2 t5 4500 and i use it for veg on all clones and babys. havent flower with it. flower i use a 400 hps, and a 400 ml
 
Well my Fixture puts out a bit over 20,000 lumens, and 200~ watts, with four bulbs (50~ watts each, 5,000 lumens). Its a 4' long fixture, so its plenty big enough. I read that the T-5 Fluorescent lights are better to use than CFLS so that is why I invested in this fixture. :S
After researching more, I do notice that the 6500k is better for vegging and that the 3000k is better for flowering, but nowhere has it said that I should have a mixture, or if flat out 6500k for vegging and 3000k for flowering would be best.

Thanks for the quick responses though!
 
if it was me and thats all i had i would run 3 6500k and 1 3500k for veg and opposite for flowerin but 2500-2700k is more optimal for flowering than 3500k!
I have 3000k bulbs for flowering, but I like your idea. 3x 6500k during veg and 1x 3000k. Opposite this when flowering.
Anyone have experiences with doing something similar to this?
 
I use (6) 5000K got them at home depot they are supposed to a great replicia of daylight (so it said on the package) for seedling and veg of clones. Is the right spectrem for me?

I use t-5 (8) bulb four foot for flowering. Next grow im going to add one more light same size and change ever other bulb to a red spectrum.
 

Indoor Don

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I use 4 t-5's on a homemade relextor IN MY VEG all 6500k, check out my grow in my sig, i only use lower spectrum (hps in my case) for flower
 
here is something i found on a gardening site lol maybe it will help

when buying a CFL how important is the color temperature of the bulb? high lumens with a low/warm Kelvin rating(3000K) or high lumens with a high/cool Kelvin rating(6500K)? i've read that blue is better for foliage growth and red is better for flower growth, should i just get one of each?

currently i am using a Home Depot CFL with a 8.5" reflector hood placed 6-9" from my orchids. the CFL has 1100 lumens, 19 watts, and 6500K. i bought this "daylight" CFL because my initial thought was that the high 6500K meant it was a "full spectrum" bulb. now after after reading a few dozen articles and posts and websites about artificial lights for indoor plants i'm starting to get confused. i'm reading about PAR, lumens, foot-candles, red and blue light spectrums, kelvins, etc. what are the minimum stats for a good CFL bulb?




Hmm, not that simple. Read some of the threads in this forum, especially the link, and you'll get an idea of the issues involved. You'll see that fluorescent bulbs with the same kelvin rating can vary widely.

6500K isn't the same as full spectrum. 6500K just means that the average blue/red balance of the light is about the same as an object at 6500K. It could be made up from a single blue spike and a single red spike, or conceivably just a single spike in the green. Full spectrum is a term bandied about by a lot of manufacturers but all it tends to mean is that the light output is spread out over more frequencies than their standard bulb. These may or may not be the frequencies you are interested in. CRI gives an indication of how uniform the light distribution is. Very high CRI numbers (above 90) tend to mean that there is also a good amount of red light beyond the normal triphosphor cutoff. "Daylight" is another term that is essentially meaningless, it can be applied to bulbs at 5000K, 6500K, sometimes even higher, and a wide range of spectral responses.
Good general advice is to mix a warm white bulb (2700K or 3000K) and a cool white bulb (4100K, or btter yet 5000K or 6500K). A very good single bulb would be something like a daylight deluxe (read the link to see why) or possibly a GRO LUX type bulb, both of which provide good red and blue light. You will be a bit more restricted finding specialist bulbs like a GRO LUX in CFL format (is there one at all?). I believe that getting enough light is the easiest and simplest way to ensure good growth. 20W of CFL for each square foot of seedlings is a good number to start at. You could usefully double that, especially for larger plants, but make sure you don't fry small seedlings. You can also get away with a bit less. You will need to compromise slightly between having the light closer to the seedlings and far enough away to get coverage of them all. Look at using a white/shiny cover or a reflector so that you can have the light far enough away and still get good light. Look at the intensities shown in the link. You'll get higher levels than that over a smaller area because CFLs are more compact.
 

cutman

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yea but the only probem with cfl or even my 5t, you still dont get the penatration that a hps or m/l bulb will give you. but even then with my 5t it seems that the blue is seen .and that the blue is better than red in veg, so i read. with the red better for flower.
 

Indoor Don

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yes ther eis alot of info on spectrum, higer spectrum is better for veg, lower for flower, if you really want to mix the specrum then give er, it will do no harm, just make sure there is 6500k as thats what they need right now, if you don;t believe me then check my grow and i'm sure you will see the results
 
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